Board Engagement

[AppSt94]

Posting here became a waste of time. Too much negativity and shouting down anyone that wasn’t as angry or upset as the other. That and the admin is inconsistent in enforcing the rules and allows for personal bias to affect judgement.

[WataugaMan]

Don't post as much because after time long winded narcissists bore me.

[WASU 93]

Mods, do you have metrics like daily active users or post count by month? I have a feeling that the back half of this season is going to lag prior months and prior years. The level of apathy is glaring on here.

I don’t even know that it’s apathy per se. There’s just less substance when you’re out of contention. We’re usually worried about rival matchups and how they impact us, bowl speculation, are we getting poll votes, our own games obvious carry a greater weight, etc. There’s just more happening.

Instead we’ve got an head coach candidate thread and the dim hope we win two straight to salvage something from this lost season. And it’s a bye week.

Add to that the current NIL/Portal situation. Can we get excited about any of the younger players on our roster? Not really, because who knows if they will stick around regardless of the coaching situation. When I walked out of the Superdome on December 15th, 2018 I knew that we had a very talented team coming back and regardless of who was hired to be the new coach, 2019 was going to be a big year. I don't know that I'll ever have that feeling again. So, what's our discussion points for next year beyond Clark's status?
Kerns signed three players today on National Signing Day, but until they show up on practice, there's no excitement and are they going to stay for 1 year, 2 years, 3+? Basketball should have huge momentum coming into 24/25, but with the max exodus we have a team: but it's really just our coach, two of our players and a group of young men that we'll grow to like once we learn who they are.

Grow to like and get to watch....at least for a season. I saw an interview with Deon Sanders and he said that Colorado didn't recruit players to develop. He said if we recruit you out of high school we expect you to come play immediately. He said with nil and the portal you have to recruit people to play now. He isn't wrong.

That doesn’t lead to board engagement/posts. Prime’s also in a little different situation with the NIL.

[Saint3333]

Typically engagement is increased when there are topics to debate. We are now to the point of consensus that we all can see it’s time and the performance is depressing to discuss beyond 12 hours after a game.

The Clark defenders no matter the performance will tell you it’s a waste of time to debate people that won’t change their minds. Well that hasn’t stopped them in the past.

Consensus, shifting in NIL situation, and apathy are the top three causes.

[Appmountaineers19]

Typically engagement is increased when there are topics to debate. We are now to the point of consensus that we all can see it’s time and the performance is depressing to discuss beyond 12 hours after a game.

The Clark defenders no matter the performance will tell you it’s a waste of time to debate people that won’t change their minds. Well that hasn’t stopped them in the past.

Consensus, shifting in NIL situation, and apathy are the top three causes.

Love SC as an ambassador for the University. Me personally - I just can't defend the product on the field anymore regardless of the reasons. Unfortunately not much to talk about at this point.

[appst89]

There have been ebbs and flows over the years. There have always been people who think they are insiders who look down their noses at regular fans and think their impeccable judgment should never be questioned and want an echo chamber for their views. There have always been people who get their feelings hurt and cry about bias or make up stuff about death threats or falsely accuse other posters of cheating someone and then refuse to apologize when they are shown to be wrong. But, for the most part, there is a core group of passionate fans who get excited when we are winning and are disappointed when we don't; although those times have fortunately not been often.

I suspect traffic will be down for the rest of football season. It will pick up if there is something to talk about.

[canes_mj]

I read/skim...don't post much bc usually whatever I'm going to say has already been said. Or I try not to post anything negative. And, for me even though I think we need a new HC, it doesn't feel right or good to me to post saying to fire someone...I have a job and family; different profession and this is all part of the job for coaches, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, yeh it's the apathy, nothing to get excited about football wise....and for all the other topics, we've been over them many times; there's nothing new. I suspect others are similar...thus the tumbleweeds blowing through and dust on the Cabin boards. Scheduling news and candidate discussions is about all I keep up with atm.

[ah59396]

Mods, do you have metrics like daily active users or post count by month? I have a feeling that the back half of this season is going to lag prior months and prior years. The level of apathy is glaring on here.

I don’t even know that it’s apathy per se. There’s just less substance when you’re out of contention. We’re usually worried about rival matchups and how they impact us, bowl speculation, are we getting poll votes, our own games obvious carry a greater weight, etc. There’s just more happening.

Instead we’ve got an head coach candidate thread and the dim hope we win two straight to salvage something from this lost season. And it’s a bye week.

Add to that the current NIL/Portal situation. Can we get excited about any of the younger players on our roster? Not really, because who knows if they will stick around regardless of the coaching situation. When I walked out of the Superdome on December 15th, 2018 I knew that we had a very talented team coming back and regardless of who was hired to be the new coach, 2019 was going to be a big year. I don't know that I'll ever have that feeling again. So, what's our discussion points for next year beyond Clark's status?
Kerns signed three players today on National Signing Day, but until they show up on practice, there's no excitement and are they going to stay for 1 year, 2 years, 3+? Basketball should have huge momentum coming into 24/25, but with the max exodus we have a team: but it's really just our coach, two of our players and a group of young men that we'll grow to like once we learn who they are.

Grow to like and get to watch....at least for a season. I saw an interview with Deon Sanders and he said that Colorado didn't recruit players to develop. He said if we recruit you out of high school we expect you to come play immediately. He said with nil and the portal you have to recruit people to play now. He isn't wrong.

Times and circumstances have changed, thanks to NIL/TP. I don't get ramped up about prospects anymore. Until they're enrolled in school and at practice, they aren't part of the program.

I used to get pretty excited about recruiting and I’ll be honest I don’t even look at it anymore. Because of the reasons outlined.

[fjblair]

What's to talk about? The team is really bad and trending worse, the coach is a bust and may keep his job even after years of mediocrity or worse, and the program no longer lives up to it's long standing and hard earned standards.

It's all about winning.

[Mjohn1988]

Mods, do you have metrics like daily active users or post count by month? I have a feeling that the back half of this season is going to lag prior months and prior years. The level of apathy is glaring on here.

I don’t even know that it’s apathy per se. There’s just less substance when you’re out of contention. We’re usually worried about rival matchups and how they impact us, bowl speculation, are we getting poll votes, our own games obvious carry a greater weight, etc. There’s just more happening.

Instead we’ve got an head coach candidate thread and the dim hope we win two straight to salvage something from this lost season. And it’s a bye week.

Add to that the current NIL/Portal situation. Can we get excited about any of the younger players on our roster? Not really, because who knows if they will stick around regardless of the coaching situation. When I walked out of the Superdome on December 15th, 2018 I knew that we had a very talented team coming back and regardless of who was hired to be the new coach, 2019 was going to be a big year. I don't know that I'll ever have that feeling again. So, what's our discussion points for next year beyond Clark's status?
Kerns signed three players today on National Signing Day, but until they show up on practice, there's no excitement and are they going to stay for 1 year, 2 years, 3+? Basketball should have huge momentum coming into 24/25, but with the max exodus we have a team: but it's really just our coach, two of our players and a group of young men that we'll grow to like once we learn who they are.

Grow to like and get to watch....at least for a season. I saw an interview with Deon Sanders and he said that Colorado didn't recruit players to develop. He said if we recruit you out of high school we expect you to come play immediately. He said with nil and the portal you have to recruit people to play now. He isn't wrong.

Times and circumstances have changed, thanks to NIL/TP. I don't get ramped up about prospects anymore. Until they're enrolled in school and at practice, they aren't part of the program.

I’m not so sure that NIL won’t kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I know I have much less interest in college football as a whole. It could just be because we’re having a bad season. But I don’t think my level of interest will ever be as high as it was pre NIL. And true NIL deals wouldn’t be a problem for me, it’s this simply pay to play thing that comes from the collectives. I think App would do well to postpone any huge investment in our stadium for several years. I’m not so sure App. or for that matter any G5 programs will need more seats.

[mike87]

We've been NASCAR'd and just don't realize it yet. Better bring back soccer.

[appst89]

We've been NASCAR'd and just don't realize it yet. Better bring back soccer.

That might be the most accurate post in the history of this board.

[AppSt94]

I don’t even know that it’s apathy per se. There’s just less substance when you’re out of contention. We’re usually worried about rival matchups and how they impact us, bowl speculation, are we getting poll votes, our own games obvious carry a greater weight, etc. There’s just more happening.

Instead we’ve got an head coach candidate thread and the dim hope we win two straight to salvage something from this lost season. And it’s a bye week.

Add to that the current NIL/Portal situation. Can we get excited about any of the younger players on our roster? Not really, because who knows if they will stick around regardless of the coaching situation. When I walked out of the Superdome on December 15th, 2018 I knew that we had a very talented team coming back and regardless of who was hired to be the new coach, 2019 was going to be a big year. I don't know that I'll ever have that feeling again. So, what's our discussion points for next year beyond Clark's status?
Kerns signed three players today on National Signing Day, but until they show up on practice, there's no excitement and are they going to stay for 1 year, 2 years, 3+? Basketball should have huge momentum coming into 24/25, but with the max exodus we have a team: but it's really just our coach, two of our players and a group of young men that we'll grow to like once we learn who they are.

Grow to like and get to watch....at least for a season. I saw an interview with Deon Sanders and he said that Colorado didn't recruit players to develop. He said if we recruit you out of high school we expect you to come play immediately. He said with nil and the portal you have to recruit people to play now. He isn't wrong.

Times and circumstances have changed, thanks to NIL/TP. I don't get ramped up about prospects anymore. Until they're enrolled in school and at practice, they aren't part of the program.

I’m not so sure that NIL won’t kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I know I have much less interest in college football as a whole. It could just be because we’re having a bad season. But I don’t think my level of interest will ever be as high as it was pre NIL. And true NIL deals wouldn’t be a problem for me, it’s this simply pay to play thing that comes from the collectives. I think App would do well to postpone any huge investment in our stadium for several years. I’m not so sure App. or for that matter any G5 programs will need more seats.

I tend to agree. Until the judge rules on the case and there are some guardrails in place, it’s just not as enjoyable.

[mike87]

We've been NASCAR'd and just don't realize it yet. Better bring back soccer.

That might be the most accurate post in the history of this board.

I hope not.

[NewApp]

Mods, do you have metrics like daily active users or post count by month? I have a feeling that the back half of this season is going to lag prior months and prior years. The level of apathy is glaring on here.

Great ... Now Newapp is going to start 1000 new threads. Lol

Pick the topic Toddler and I will.

[MrCraig]

Add to that the current NIL/Portal situation. Can we get excited about any of the younger players on our roster? Not really, because who knows if they will stick around regardless of the coaching situation. When I walked out of the Superdome on December 15th, 2018 I knew that we had a very talented team coming back and regardless of who was hired to be the new coach, 2019 was going to be a big year. I don't know that I'll ever have that feeling again. So, what's our discussion points for next year beyond Clark's status?
Kerns signed three players today on National Signing Day, but until they show up on practice, there's no excitement and are they going to stay for 1 year, 2 years, 3+? Basketball should have huge momentum coming into 24/25, but with the max exodus we have a team: but it's really just our coach, two of our players and a group of young men that we'll grow to like once we learn who they are.

Grow to like and get to watch....at least for a season. I saw an interview with Deon Sanders and he said that Colorado didn't recruit players to develop. He said if we recruit you out of high school we expect you to come play immediately. He said with nil and the portal you have to recruit people to play now. He isn't wrong.

Times and circumstances have changed, thanks to NIL/TP. I don't get ramped up about prospects anymore. Until they're enrolled in school and at practice, they aren't part of the program.

I’m not so sure that NIL won’t kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I know I have much less interest in college football as a whole. It could just be because we’re having a bad season. But I don’t think my level of interest will ever be as high as it was pre NIL. And true NIL deals wouldn’t be a problem for me, it’s this simply pay to play thing that comes from the collectives. I think App would do well to postpone any huge investment in our stadium for several years. I’m not so sure App. or for that matter any G5 programs will need more seats.

I tend to agree. Until the judge rules on the case and there are some guardrails in place, it’s just not as enjoyable.

I can only speak for myself, but I have been much less active on this site because of the thread above. I literally don't think there's a thread on this site anymore that doesn't devolve into people whining and complaining about NIL and "the portal." There's very little discussion of App sports anymore, just how "the game I loved is gone" over and over again. Get over it or move on to something else.

[CornCobPipes]

NIL kills fan spirit.......watch and learn boys and girls....you could see this coming years ago with court rulings. My question is are they going to go back and exonerate and reward programs that got the death penalty aka SMU?

[MrCraig]

NIL kills fan spirit.......watch and learn boys and girls....you could see this coming years ago with court rulings. My question is are they going to go back and exonerate and reward programs that got the death penalty aka SMU?

No, it doesn’t. You just want it to because you don’t like it. If paying players ruined the product, why are 71 of the 100 most watched television programs of 2024 NFL games?

[NewApp]

NIL kills fan spirit.......watch and learn boys and girls....you could see this coming years ago with court rulings. My question is are they going to go back and exonerate and reward programs that got the death penalty aka SMU?

No, it doesn’t. You just want it to because you don’t like it. If paying players ruined the product, why are 71 of the 100 most watched television programs of 2024 NFL games?

Some fans like amateur. Some like professional. Both are now the same as far as football is concerned.

[canes_mj]

Grow to like and get to watch....at least for a season. I saw an interview with Deon Sanders and he said that Colorado didn't recruit players to develop. He said if we recruit you out of high school we expect you to come play immediately. He said with nil and the portal you have to recruit people to play now. He isn't wrong.

Times and circumstances have changed, thanks to NIL/TP. I don't get ramped up about prospects anymore. Until they're enrolled in school and at practice, they aren't part of the program.

I’m not so sure that NIL won’t kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I know I have much less interest in college football as a whole. It could just be because we’re having a bad season. But I don’t think my level of interest will ever be as high as it was pre NIL. And true NIL deals wouldn’t be a problem for me, it’s this simply pay to play thing that comes from the collectives. I think App would do well to postpone any huge investment in our stadium for several years. I’m not so sure App. or for that matter any G5 programs will need more seats.

I tend to agree. Until the judge rules on the case and there are some guardrails in place, it’s just not as enjoyable.

I can only speak for myself, but I have been much less active on this site because of the thread above. I literally don't think there's a thread on this site anymore that doesn't devolve into people whining and complaining about NIL and "the portal." There's very little discussion of App sports anymore, just how "the game I loved is gone" over and over again. Get over it or move on to something else.

Also right now it's the offseason; so not much to discuss...but during the past season or two, in-season, the same kind of rabbit hole spiraling happened on here where every thread about any topic turned into a referendum on Clark with page upon page of infighting. Combine that with the on field results, and many emotionally checked out.

Re NIL/portal, 100% agree. No matter what the original topic is, that's where it ends. A quick search and you can find articles from 1906 with doomsdayers saying the forward pass is going to ruin football...seriously look it up...and every single change in CFB since has been met with similar sky is falling hysteria and angst.

App winning again...fixes all of it and we're all one big happy family again.