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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by NavyApp » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:11 pm

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Is Ark State kicking themselves now that Malzahn is on the market?
Interesting question. My first thought was no, but the more I think about it he does seem like the more natural for in Jonesboro. Who knows maybe the ink isn't dry on Butch's contract.
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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

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Wow. This is... a scary good hire for arky. Don’t like it.
It's not scary to me. I think it's great.

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by yosef69 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:44 pm

fjblair wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:30 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:16 pm
Wow. This is... a scary good hire for arky. Don’t like it.
It's not scary to me. I think it's great.
I think it’s scary in the short term. But in the long term he could definitely leave their roster as a barren wasteland

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by NavyApp » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:58 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:44 pm
fjblair wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:30 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:16 pm
Wow. This is... a scary good hire for arky. Don’t like it.
It's not scary to me. I think it's great.
I think it’s scary in the short term. But in the long term he could definitely leave their roster as a barren wasteland
That was my thought as well!
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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:46 am

AppSt91 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:04 pm
Is Ark State kicking themselves now that Malzahn is on the market?
Would he do a second stint there?

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:53 am

I can't see Malzahn being a viable candidate for any of the SBC programs this year. I keep seeing his name bouncing around, but I don't believe he would entertain a G5 position right now. His stock is plenty high enough to be in the running for the P5 positions that will open up and with his buy-out, he's hardly desperate.

Jones was probably a good hire for Arkansas State. He's not a super star, but he has coached at a high level and will probably do a good job for them.

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by NavyApp » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:33 pm

Major Applewhite has left Butch at the alter and is heading to S.Bama with Kane. Interesting twist here in the Fun Belt!
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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by BeauFoster » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:50 pm

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Agree with News...Applewhite is the scary part of this (if he actually lands in Jonesboro).

It would be nice for someone in the west to actually give ULLLLLLLL a game at some point, to strengthen that side of the draw.
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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by Appstrong » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:10 am

Revolving door at the OC position there right now. Hope we can find someone for our OC that will stick around for more than a week or two.

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by The Rock » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:07 am

I know this sounds bad, but that is what happens when you hire "out of your league". They will take a job to have one, but as soon as something better comes along, they are gone, even if its only days. Kind of like Dorsey for us a couple years ago. G5's really have to find the perfect person in the right situation for any sort of continuity

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by Rick83 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:13 am

Speaking of South Alabama, they're getting former South Carolina and Utah QB, Jake Bentley...former 4 star I believe..

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by AppDub » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:55 am

Rick83 wrote:
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Speaking of South Alabama, they're getting former South Carolina and Utah QB, Jake Bentley...former 4 star I believe..
Saw that. Got to admit, I love our new signing class, but it would be exciting to see a little splash from a pickup or two out of the portal. It may be on the way, but hard to keep seeing some of these adds to less competitive schools and not feel a little jittery. I trust the plan. Just curious more than anything.

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by The Rock » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:59 pm

Big names are fine, but we have always looked at the long term payoff of developing 4 year guys and not loading up too much on transfers. I think some of these new coaches are doing that do their immediate success, and maybe not thinking about the long term success of the school, but preparing for their next gig.

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Re: Butch Jones new coach at Ark St.

Unread post by hapapp » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:13 pm

The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:59 pm
Big names are fine, but we have always looked at the long term payoff of developing 4 year guys and not loading up too much on transfers. I think some of these new coaches are doing that do their immediate success, and maybe not thinking about the long term success of the school, but preparing for their next gig.
Obviously, we taken our own transfer QB because of the lack of an experience in that position. So, its not always about the next job. I'm not that familiar with the USA QB room but Bentley is likely an upgrade for what they have coming back.

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