Louisiana 50,000 Seats for Football within 3 years

[moehler]

I wouldn't say that, we got 2 things going our way with SS, first, he loves App, graduated from App, and is very loyal to the school, 2nd, SS, and his wife, another grad of App, have expressed in the past to move closer to their homes in NC to raise their kids closer to their grandparents. Now, I'm not stupid, if he starts winning conference championships and the big schools come calling, I expect him to atleast listen, but because of his ties to App, he isn't going to jump at the first offer, its going to take something special, I cant see him taking a job at another mid-major, but I can see him if a P5 school comes calling to atleast consider the job.

[GoApps70]

Was on the ODU site a couple of months ago and they were saying there was
no one waiting on football tickets. They had heard the same old wives tale of
several thousand being on a waiting list but were claiming it was not true.

[ASUGoose]

People here worry so much about how many seats our stadium holds, but did you happen to see the post earlier today that said ULL's coach makes more than 4x what SS makes? IMO, that disparity is a much bigger issue for App than the one in seating capacity.

I was going to post this in the coaches salary thread, but since budgets seem to have popped up here I figured this would be the proper place. Sorry but this is going to be a bit long.

Looking at it in cost of doing business terms it is easy to see how some SB schools are paying their coaches more. Due to the equal revenue streams at the G5 FBS level the fewer number of teams a school funds directly affects what they can pay coaches.

# of men's & women's sports and total # of NCAA allowable scholarships

Mark Hudspeth, UL, $950,000 -
7 men @ 137 + 7 women @ 79 = 216

Blake Anderson, Arkansas State, $700,000
6 men @ 127 + 8 women @ 78 = 205

Larry Blakeney, Troy, $480,000
7 men @ 137 + 8 women @ 93 = 215
(they also show Rodeo as a sport but it is funded by a group of rodeo enthusiasts across the region)

Trent Miles, Georgia State, $450,000
6 men @ 128 + 9 women @ 97 = 225

Joey Jones, South Alabama, $435,000
7 men @ 131 = 8 women @ 85 = 216

Dennis Franchione, Texas State, $400,000
6 men @ 127 + 8 women @ 85 = 212

Paul Petrino, Idaho, $390,000
6 men @ 112 + 8 women @ 87 = 199

Doug Martin, New Mexico State*, $363,000
6 men @ 131 / 10 women @ 114 (including equestrian) = 245

Todd Berry, UL Monroe, $306,000
6 men sports @ 127 scholarships + 9 women sports @ 83 scholarships = 210

Willie Fritz, Georgia Southern*, $300,000
6 men @ 128 + 10 women @ 103 = 231

Scott Satterfield, Appalachian State*, $225,000
9 men @ 151 + 9 women @ 97 scholarships = 248

While it is a good bet each of the school does not fund every scholarship for every sport the concept applies. The other thing to consider is not only do schools like ULL & Ark State have fewer sports, the types of sports they fund require fewer scholarships, less travel and facility cost.

Prime example. App sponsors Field Hockey, which I'm betting is fully funded. Twelve grants, a lot of equipment, large facility and cost of playing in a league that stretches across America. Ark State counters with Bowling. Requiring 5 grants. Minimal cost of equipment and no cost in facility investment.

IMO, App will have to streamline its number of sports somewhere down the line.

Agree - there could be a potential of teams cut sometime in the next 5 years IMO. I see the list of potential candidates to be Wrestling, along w/ Men's & Women's Cross Country.

I have nothing personal against these sports, just my opinion based on popularity of the respective sports.

I agree that we will likely cut a few sports at some point, but XCounty isn't very likely IMO for a few reasons. We are very competitive in both men's and women's, and there aren't a lot of costs associated with it. The only real costs are scholarships and travel as there are basically no equipment costs.

I understand your point based on costs and competitiveness, I would rather see field hockey go away but I don't see how you can justify that move when we are about to drop $2.2M on a new field hockey complex....

[bcoach]

That is just hard to understand.

[Saint3333]

Where is the field hockey field going to be located and could this be part of the track relocation effort?

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Where is the field hockey field going to be located and could this be part of the track relocation effort?

No future tense needed. It is here now it seems. I think it is the old soccer field that was at the State Farm area. h

The coach seems excited

https://twitter.com/AppFieldHockey

I doubt it is part of the Track relocation. Unless they were to use more of the flatland at State Farm, but that is intramural fields, correct?

A shame we can't get our hands on the old WHS facility. That would be the answer to so many questions. What would that cost to purchase, even if the university sat on it for a bit, just having it for future use.

[asutrnr81]

Where is the field hockey field going to be located and could this be part of the track relocation effort?

No future tense needed. It is here now it seems. I think it is the old soccer field that was at the State Farm area. h

The coach seems excited

https://twitter.com/AppFieldHockey

I doubt it is part of the Track relocation. Unless they were to use more of the flatland at State Farm, but that is intramural fields, correct?

A shame we can't get our hands on the old WHS facility. That would be the answer to so many questions. What would that cost to purchase, even if the university sat on it for a bit, just having it for future use.

WHS = NC State's Millennium Campus idea!

[firemoose]

Where is the field hockey field going to be located and could this be part of the track relocation effort?

No future tense needed. It is here now it seems. I think it is the old soccer field that was at the State Farm area. h

The coach seems excited

https://twitter.com/AppFieldHockey

I doubt it is part of the Track relocation. Unless they were to use more of the flatland at State Farm, but that is intramural fields, correct?

A shame we can't get our hands on the old WHS facility. That would be the answer to so many questions. What would that cost to purchase, even if the university sat on it for a bit, just having it for future use.

Lots of things going on behind the scenes right now from several groups. One of the big issues when it was first talked about was the removal of the buildings since they were full of asbestos. But they are gone now and there is a nice flat place to build a great facility. But there is also a pending appeal from a previous bidder that has to be completed before any other possibilities can be looked at. So many possibilities up there, including a great place for several sports to move to and build a great athletics center but we'll just have to see what the PTB's from all parties involved want. Reminds me of bunch of 3 year old's in a sandbox with all the bickering.

[Niner National]

35,000 students by the time you get to Boone, that would be impressive, but my question is, how many will actually on be attending on campus, and how many are Satellite, or internet and will never set foot on the campus, or attend a game? I know down here FAU claims to have an enrollment of over 30 thousand, but if you go on campus, its not much larger than Wingate collage, and they have admitted they have Satellite collages all over Florida, that they count towards their numbers. As far as UNCC, I don't have a clue, maybe you will 35 on campus, wow, that would be very impressive.I know here at App, most of the student population is traditional, with the majority of the 17 thousand plus attending school on campus. Back to the topic, we will see about how the tv contract goes, football rules tv contracts, and your commissioner made one hell of a gamble that all the new schools could get up to national respectability before talks begin, I don't think its possible, but we will see. One more thing, you mention ODU, well, things aren't great right now over there, they just kicked off the team their top receciver from last year, they have also lost their 2nd and I believe their third best receiver.They are pretty much down to freshman and walkons to carry the offense. No good for a team that has a horrible defense and relies on the offense has to put up 35 a game just to win, and is about to start playing a FBS schedule. But I do agree, ODU, because of their market, the tide water area, has the potential, I repeat the potential, to reach the national level of respectability before App, GS, or UNCC, and to me, they were a good, smart choice to make a member

We don't really have much of an online program. ECU has the biggest online presence in the state I believe. UNCG has a pretty big online program too.

I don't think we have a single fully online program, but I could be wrong. Now that may change by the time 2018 rolls around, but that isn't the kind of growth they have planned for Charlotte. We're growing our STEM programs and those aren't the kinds of programs that you can do online.

Right now about 25% of our students live on campus. We've opened up three or four new dorms with 4-500 beds in each over the last 3 years. We have another large housing project under construction right now and three massive off campus apartment projects under construction right now that are walking distance to campus, not including the half dozen or so that have been finished over the last 5 years. Campus has had a shortage of housing pretty much every year. When I started in 2005, we had kids living in study halls in the dorms because there weren't enough rooms. A fairly small % of our traditional college aged students live at home. I grew up in the Charlotte area and probably knew 30-40 kids from high school that went to Charlotte. Only 4 or 5 of them lived at home. Most of our commuters are adults. I don't consider kids that live within a few miles of campus with friends as commuters. If those are commuters, then nearly every school in the country is a commuter school.

The university area blows, I'll readily admit that, but the campus is beautiful and the area around campus is slowly improving in some ways.

Unrelated to the quoted post, but FAU and FIU were really added for their recruiting areas. One may have been added for market, but some schools (Marshall) wanted both to ensure they would play a game in Florida every year. WV's football talent is pathetic, so Marshall relies heavily on recruiting from Florida. I wish we only had FAU personally.

As for Louisiana having 50,000 seats in three years, I'll believe it when I see it. Unless they can get SEC or Big XII schools to play them at home, there is 0 chance they'll ever need that many seats. Sorry, but SBC schools are not going to draw that kind of crowd. That would be difficult for virtually all the AAC schools to do either. Hell, even most ACC schools struggle to put 50,000 in a stadium, and only a few can do it consistently.