GaSo Meeting

[AppStateNation]

FOIA Article #3:

EXCLUSIVE: E-Mails Between GSU & NMSU Raise Conference Realignment Questions
http://www.appstatenation.com/2013/02/0 ... questions/

[Dmanuhone]

I was concerned until I saw the meeting was in November.

[Saint3333]

GSU will support a move to the Belt no strings attached, App seems to be more selective. But a Belt that includes GSU would obviously be good for us.

[Dmanuhone]

http://www.macon.com/2013/02/03/2341524 ... ource=t.co

2-3-13

Saying he was speaking hypothetically, Benson said, “If you get a map out and try to visualize what the Sun Belt looks like today and insert Georgia Southern and Appalachian State into the map, you will see the fit, I can see Georgia State and Georgia Southern and Western Kentucky and Appalachian State as travel partners so to say. I can see at my press conference announcing them as new members talking about how they are a logical characteristic fit.

“I can’t say (definitely it will happen), but I wouldn’t be opposed (to Georgia Southern and Appalachian State joining the Sun Belt).”

Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2013/02/03/2341524 ... rylink=cpy

[TheMoody1]

http://www.macon.com/2013/02/03/2341524 ... ource=t.co

2-3-13

Saying he was speaking hypothetically, Benson said, “If you get a map out and try to visualize what the Sun Belt looks like today and insert Georgia Southern and Appalachian State into the map, you will see the fit, I can see Georgia State and Georgia Southern and Western Kentucky and Appalachian State as travel partners so to say. I can see at my press conference announcing them as new members talking about how they are a logical characteristic fit.

“I can’t say (definitely it will happen), but I wouldn’t be opposed (to Georgia Southern and Appalachian State joining the Sun Belt).”

Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2013/02/03/2341524 ... rylink=cpy

It sounds like Ga Southern is having to do a big sales job on their current and projected facilities. App doesn't have that problem.

[MountainMan]

GSU will support a move to the Belt no strings attached, App seems to be more selective. But a Belt that includes GSU would obviously be good for us.

Not sure that App has any ability to "be more selective". Unless you mean that we might decide to stay FCS rather than go the the Sun Belt.

It will be nice if ASU ends up with a MAC, CUSA, and SB offer in hand at the same time and can be picky, but somehow I don't see that happening. If anything, our original approach that seemed to suggest we were not interested in the Sun Belt, is probably one small additional hurdle to overcome now, if we want to be in the Sun Belt.

Time will tell.

[Saint3333]

I would say GSU's leadership is more "FBS or bust" than ours.

[asumike83]

I am curious to see if the ASU administration would cool towards the Sun Belt if WKU leaves. It would make us a bit of a geographic outlier but if GSU is jumping ship, it'd be real tough to stay behind if we have a choice.

A Sun Belt with GSU and WKU would be a very good thing for us. One great existing rivalry and the potential for another good one.

[JCline0429]

I am curious to see if the ASU administration would cool towards the Sun Belt if WKU leaves. It would make us a bit of a geographic outlier but if GSU is jumping ship, it'd be real tough to stay behind if we have a choice.

A Sun Belt with GSU and WKU would be a very good thing for us. One great existing rivalry and the potential for another good one.

GSU is a rival primarily because we most often compete against each other for the conference championship. As far as bringing large numbers of fans to KBS, they don't. If we go to the SunBelt together, we'll have more opponents to worry about than GSU, none of which will bring large numbers of their fans to KBS.

[AppAttack]

They'll probably bring more when we're both FBS. So will we. And WKU and Ga St will bring more than Samford and The Citadel. I'm not worried about attendance, especially since our non-conference home schedule would be leaps-and-bounds better.

[JCline0429]

They'll probably bring more when we're both FBS. So will we. And WKU and Ga St will bring more than Samford and The Citadel. I'm not worried about attendance, especially since our non-conference home schedule would be leaps-and-bounds better.

I'm not projecting that our non-conference schedule will be leaps and bounds better. If we're like the rest of FBS, we'll still schedule the likes of Savannah State for a game or so a year. The likes of ACC teams are not coming to Boone.
Who are some of the ones you think will come to Boone?

[ASUPATCH]

They'll probably bring more when we're both FBS. So will we. And WKU and Ga St will bring more than Samford and The Citadel. I'm not worried about attendance, especially since our non-conference home schedule would be leaps-and-bounds better.

I'm not projecting that our non-conference schedule will be leaps and bounds better. If we're like the rest of FBS, we'll still schedule the likes of Savannah State for a game or so a year. The likes of ACC teams are not coming to Boone.
Who are some of the ones you think will come to Boone?

I like home matchups with ODU Marshall UNCC ECU MTSU far more than Mars Hill Lenoir Rhyne NC Central.

[Saint3333]

Cline we have been over this quite a few times on this board as well as the old one.

Go to any Sun Belt future schedules and you will see the type of OOC schedule they have.

http://www.troytrojans.com/news/2013/1/ ... 32505.aspx

Troy just announced they will play Duke home and home.

[JCline0429]

Cline we have been over this quite a few times on this board as well as the old one.

Go to any Sun Belt future schedules and you will see the type of OOC schedule they have.

http://www.troytrojans.com/news/2013/1/ ... 32505.aspx

Troy just announced they will play Duke home and home.

Don't count on Duke coming to KBS. They won't even play us in Durham even though they play other FCS teams. I also see Savannah State on there which is why I say we aren't going to avoid one of their ilk on our home schedule.

[GoAppsGo92]

I don't think you will see FCS teams on the schedules of FBS schools as the Gang of 5 payout evolves. More than $40 million to GOF (Mountian West, CUSA, MAC, Sunblet, Big East) schools from the former BCS bowls awarded by conference strengh and stregnth of schedule. The motivation will be to beef up the schedule not water it down. That means better home games for all schools, and less paycheck games for FCS teams. I forsee OOC conference tilts at home and at neutral sites with CUSA, Big East and yes, even the SEC and ACC schools. Can easily imagine Army, Navy, ECU, Kent, Charlotte, Marshall, Old Dominion, and yes, eventually schools like Wake, Duke, and Vandy making appearances at KBS.

[BeauFoster]

Don't count on Duke coming to KBS. They won't even play us in Durham even though they play other FCS teams. I also see Savannah State on there which is why I say we aren't going to avoid one of their ilk on our home schedule.

Can you please tell me what the lottery numbers will be for Wednesday night? You seem to be able to predict the future, so I'm sure you must know.

Evidence suggests that some ACC/Big East/Big 10/Big 12 teams are willing to "travel down" to the non-BCS schools for home-and-home or 2-for-1 series. Saying that Duke or WFU will not play us ever, because they do not currently play us, is incorrect.

[asumike83]

It won't happen day one and we'd have to accept that it won't be a 1-for-1 deal but I am confident that we could get BCS opponents to visit Boone as an FBS program. The in-state programs would be the toughest nut to crack, as we all saw how long it took ECU to make that happen. However, there are plenty of examples of other series that have been scheduled by Sun Belt/CUSA teams.

ECU has gotten Virginia Tech, South Carolina and West Virgina to visit Greenville in recent years. Troy scheduled the series with Duke and also hosted Mississipi State just this season. I see no reason that we could not schedule as aggressively as schools like Troy or ECU, it will just take time.

Those will be the prize games but we could certainly work out series with programs like ECU, Marshall, ODU, UNCC, MTSU, Memphis, Southern Miss, etc. once the transition period is over.

I can live with one cupcake game but our OOC home schedule is typically very soft and it would be better as an FBS program. In the past 10 years, I can think of 3 OOC home games I have been excited about: McNeese, Montana and JMU. The last 3 years in particular have been embarrassing aside from Montana.

[JCline0429]

Don't count on Duke coming to KBS. They won't even play us in Durham even though they play other FCS teams. I also see Savannah State on there which is why I say we aren't going to avoid one of their ilk on our home schedule.

Can you please tell me what the lottery numbers will be for Wednesday night? You seem to be able to predict the future, so I'm sure you must know.

Evidence suggests that some ACC/Big East/Big 10/Big 12 teams are willing to "travel down" to the non-BCS schools for home-and-home or 2-for-1 series. Saying that Duke or WFU will not play us ever, because they do not currently play us, is incorrect.

I guess I forsee about as well as the ones who are predicting otherwise. I never said Wake and Duke will never be on our schedule, I just don't see any reason for them to come to KBS especially when they have have side stepped us in favor of the Elon's, et al. A two for one with almost anybody is not practical from a financial standpoint especially with the likes of Wake and Duke. We're going to need every dime we can get to avoid being mediocre in FBS. We would make much more money scheduling a patsy at home than having to give up two home games for them.

[asumike83]

This brings an interesting question to mind. Does anyone know if there would still be a payout for the road games in a 2-for-1 deal or is that just for one-time 'money games'? I know that Michigan stated our payout would be increased if we are FBS in 2014 but I'm not sure if that would remain if it were part of a multi-game agreement.

For example, ECU played at South Carolina last year. However, it was part of a 4-game series. Did they get a check? That would obviously make a big difference in deciding whether a 2-for-1 with an ACC/SEC program would make financial sense for us.

[JCline0429]

This brings an interesting question to mind. Does anyone know if there would still be a payout for the road games in a 2-for-1 deal or is that just for one-time 'money games'? I know that Michigan stated our payout would be increased if we are FBS in 2014 but I'm not sure if that would remain if it were part of a multi-game agreement.

For example, ECU played at South Carolina last year. However, it was part of a 4-game series. Did they get a check? That would obviously make a big difference in deciding whether a 2-for-1 with an ACC/SEC program would make financial sense for us.

From what I've read, in a 2 for 1 deal, each school keeps its home gate to any significant degree. There is room for bargaining sometimes.