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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppWyo » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:53 pm

I believe Tarlton State would be a good fit as well.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by spacemonkey » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:57 pm

If I were king and I could add my choices...UCONN and UMASS would be great adds for the east. We need basketball. We have football...We have baseball. We need basketball. We being Sunbelt. I would move two schools west and add UCONN and UMASS. If UConn turned it down. Umass and Temple would be good adds as well. University of Ohio, Buffalo, Umass and Temple would make for a pretty good division with App, Marshall, ODU, JMU. Some states with population would be nice for marketing AppState degrees. Temple is probably still getting a full share from AAC.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:00 am

The only way to do that is to get more TV money to offset travel cost given additional cost to travel north. The only one of those that moves the monetary needle is UConn. They are not leaving their current conference due to the bball competition in that league which is better than SBC
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by appbroker20 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:46 am

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Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:47 pm
One FCS school to keep an eye on. No , not Western.
Adding an upstate SC school might make since to me. Would take a miracle though.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by appfanjj » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:08 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:36 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:47 pm
One FCS school to keep an eye on. No , not Western.
I can't imagine it would be Campbell or NC A&T. I know they both want to move up. I can't see the SBC adding Montana, Montana State, or Sac State due to location. I would love to add NDSU and SDSU if they were closer to the footprint so I am going to guess it is not them either. Is it Tarleton State or Eastern Kentucky? Believe it or not Tarleton State would be a good one. They have great facilities, good attendance, money, and are a rising program like UTSA has been. I could see them develop into a top tier G5 at some point.
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by appfanjj » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:09 am

AppWyo wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:53 pm
I believe Tarlton State would be a good fit as well.
No, thank you.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:21 am

If the SBC wants to continue to rise to top of G5 then we must add from top G5 schools NOT add from FCS and bottom feeders.

The latest adds were better and desirable G5s and a top FCS that was an anomaly (JMU).

There are no more FCS that we want.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:14 am

appfanjj wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:09 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:53 pm
I believe Tarlton State would be a good fit as well.
No, thank you.
I would prefer to add a G5 like you said but Tarleton would be a great add if the league really wants to be in Texas. I asked about Tarleton State because they are going to rise like Boise State. Chattanooga probably wants us to add them but I would be a hard no there. Tarleton was a D2 power, they are a playoff caliber team every year now in FCS, they have good facilities, and they average almost 20k in FCS. They have real potential and are in better shape in every way now than we were in 2005. You should research them.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by appfanjj » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:44 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:21 am
If the SBC wants to continue to rise to top of G5 then we must add from top G5 schools NOT add from FCS and bottom feeders.

The latest adds were better and desirable G5s and a top FCS that was an anomaly (JMU).

There are no more FCS that we want.
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by appfanjj » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:49 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:14 am
appfanjj wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:09 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:53 pm
I believe Tarlton State would be a good fit as well.
No, thank you.
I would prefer to add a G5 like you said but Tarleton would be a great add if the league really wants to be in Texas. I asked about Tarleton State because they are going to rise like Boise State. Chattanooga probably wants us to add them but I would be a hard no there. Tarleton was a D2 power, they are a playoff caliber team every year now in FCS, they have good facilities, and they average almost 20k in FCS. They have real potential and are in better shape in every way now than we were in 2005. You should research them.
I did research them. Great FCS football program. I am looking at more than just football though. They seem more like CUSA.
Sunbelt doesn't need to add just to add if TX State leaves. Only true value adds make sense.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by ah59396 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:02 pm

I would rather stay at 13 perpetually than add Tarleton State or some other random FCS school.

Adding for the sake of it is what got the American athletic and conference USA into the current situation they are in.

There is no urgency here.
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:53 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:49 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:14 am
appfanjj wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:09 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:53 pm
I believe Tarlton State would be a good fit as well.
No, thank you.
I would prefer to add a G5 like you said but Tarleton would be a great add if the league really wants to be in Texas. I asked about Tarleton State because they are going to rise like Boise State. Chattanooga probably wants us to add them but I would be a hard no there. Tarleton was a D2 power, they are a playoff caliber team every year now in FCS, they have good facilities, and they average almost 20k in FCS. They have real potential and are in better shape in every way now than we were in 2005. You should research them.
I did research them. Great FCS football program. I am looking at more than just football though. They seem more like CUSA.
Sunbelt doesn't need to add just to add if TX State leaves. Only true value adds make sense.
I am thinking football and the fact it would pick up Texas again. I hear what you mean. They are going to be a good football brand name in FBS one day. I would be surprised if CUSA does not add them if we were to add someone from CUSA.

I really don't want to add anyone outside of USF, Memphis, ECU now but that would have to wait. I feel like the best thing for the SBC is to hold on for a few years. I just worry our leadership might feel like someone has to be added but I don't think we need to now.


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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppWyo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:53 pm

It seems that the longer the talks go on the less likely Texas State is to leave the Sun Belt. However, I have no idea whether or not they are going to leave. I just do not believe that the AAC is the conference it once was. Just like the PAC and C-USA. I believe that the SBC did the impossible and stayed relevant when it could have folded. The SBC was a conference on life support when Appalachian and Georgia Southern joined the conference.

I think the problem that Texas State is having with the new PAC is WSU and OSU are not giving the new members full shares and the schools that left the MWC did so in hopes of the new PAC becoming an Autonomous conference once again. I do not believe that Texas State will leave for any less than a full share of revenue nor should they.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:55 pm

It will happen before 7/1 as the financial metrics change out of Texas St’s favor thereafter, probably announced tomorrow or Monday.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:07 pm

One thing I've learned about realignment is that things can seem inevitable forever, but then it actually happens really quickly.

This week will be a Crowded Hour of realignment. The WAC, ASUN and Big Sky all changed today alone. There might be more before July 1.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:16 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
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It will happen before 7/1 as the financial metrics change out of Texas St’s favor thereafter, probably announced tomorrow or Monday.
I was about to say the same thing. I am expecting Texas State to Pac-12 and for Sac State to get an invite from a league. They seem very confident that a conference invite is coming here soon. Big Sky announced they have added SUU and Utah Tech and that has me thinking that they did this knowing Sac State is gone as well.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:22 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:53 pm
It seems that the longer the talks go on the less likely Texas State is to leave the Sun Belt. However, I have no idea whether or not they are going to leave. I just do not believe that the AAC is the conference it once was. Just like the PAC and C-USA. I believe that the SBC did the impossible and stayed relevant when it could have folded. The SBC was a conference on life support when Appalachian and Georgia Southern joined the conference.

I think the problem that Texas State is having with the new PAC is WSU and OSU are not giving the new members full shares and the schools that left the MWC did so in hopes of the new PAC becoming an Autonomous conference once again. I do not believe that Texas State will leave for any less than a full share of revenue nor should they.
It's being reported on ESPN front page. It would be a surprise if they do not go.
The SBC was not on life support before App. St. joined the SBC..App. St. and Stink made it better..App would not have joined if the conference was on life support. Good grief...
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppWyo » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:34 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:22 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:53 pm
It seems that the longer the talks go on the less likely Texas State is to leave the Sun Belt. However, I have no idea whether or not they are going to leave. I just do not believe that the AAC is the conference it once was. Just like the PAC and C-USA. I believe that the SBC did the impossible and stayed relevant when it could have folded. The SBC was a conference on life support when Appalachian and Georgia Southern joined the conference.

I think the problem that Texas State is having with the new PAC is WSU and OSU are not giving the new members full shares and the schools that left the MWC did so in hopes of the new PAC becoming an Autonomous conference once again. I do not believe that Texas State will leave for any less than a full share of revenue nor should they.
It's being reported on ESPN front page. It would be a surprise if they do not go.
The SBC was not on life support before App. St. joined the SBC..App. St. and Stink made it better..App would not have joined if the conference was on life support. Good grief...
Maybe they were not on life support, but they did bring in NMSU and Idaho with App and GS after a mass exodus of members.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:45 pm

The SBC was in jeopardy of dropping below the minimum FBS members. They had to add four and if you’re a SE conference and you add Idaho due to transition laws you aren’t in a position of leverage.

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