Interesting things going on in Columbia and Orangeburg.....
http://www.wistv.com/story/28073493/hou ... iscal-year

I don't know how bad the situation is there. I would hate to see the place close for a year. Even that costs money in upkeep, and there are so many people that had no real say in the matter that don't deserve to lose jobs over this.

Fire some of the top brass, raise tuition a small amount, cut a few programs and move to DIII sports, but shutting down for a year seems a bit much.

I do know this has been going on for some years now so I can see change being needed, I would just prefer to make sure the pain is felt at the top and not the bottom for once.

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:I don't know how bad the situation is there. I would hate to see the place close for a year. Even that costs money in upkeep, and there are so many people that had no real say in the matter that don't deserve to lose jobs over this.

Fire some of the top brass, raise tuition a small amount, cut a few programs and move to DIII sports, but shutting down for a year seems a bit much.

I do know this has been going on for some years now so I can see change being needed, I would just prefer to make sure the pain is felt at the top and not the bottom for once.

I think that may be the point you are missing. I have looked at this a little and this is not the first go-round. This is not a band-aid fix, this is a place that has cooked the books for years. it is coming home to roost. If you gut top Brass, who is giong to run the show? There really should not be a show. It wasn't just a few people that got them into this mess and throwing off a few is not going to help.

App91 wrote:

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:I don't know how bad the situation is there. I would hate to see the place close for a year. Even that costs money in upkeep, and there are so many people that had no real say in the matter that don't deserve to lose jobs over this.

Fire some of the top brass, raise tuition a small amount, cut a few programs and move to DIII sports, but shutting down for a year seems a bit much.

I do know this has been going on for some years now so I can see change being needed, I would just prefer to make sure the pain is felt at the top and not the bottom for once.

I think that may be the point you are missing. I have looked at this a little and this is not the first go-round. This is not a band-aid fix, this is a place that has cooked the books for years. it is coming home to roost. If you gut top Brass, who is giong to run the show? There really should not be a show. It wasn't just a few people that got them into this mess and throwing off a few is not going to help.

They may need to clean house but to indict the entire campus? I don't buy that either. I seriously doubt a janitor was given much say in the matters that lead to the campus being in this shape. They need to do some house cleaning, but no need to go after those that had nothing to do with the situation they are in now. It might be they need to rid themselves of 1% or 90% but I can't see everyone being punished with lose of job.

The fines they would incur for suddenly dropping out of the NCAA and the MEAC would offset any saved money they would get by not operating.

If they shut down for a year, there's no way back IMO.

T-Dog wrote:The fines they would incur for suddenly dropping out of the NCAA and the MEAC would offset any saved money they would get by not operating.

If they shut down for a year, there's no way back IMO.

Of course if they shut down there is no one to pay the fine. Start up in a new year with a new charter. Not that I want to see that happen.

This could be the only viable solution depending on the collective bargaining agreement. It can be very difficult to take cost-cutting measures when it comes to tenured faculty. There are lots of protections in place.

I have seen at other schools where you are not allowed to fire an individual tenured faculty member as a cost cutting move, but you can eliminate an entire department.

brocktune90 wrote:This could be the only viable solution depending on the collective bargaining agreement. It can be very difficult to take cost-cutting measures when it comes to tenured faculty. There are lots of protections in place.

I have seen at other schools where you are not allowed to fire an individual tenured faculty member as a cost cutting move, but you can eliminate an entire department.

Sadly, SC like NC has no public employee collective bargaining unless something changed very, very recently.

Really? Wow. Interesting.

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:

brocktune90 wrote:This could be the only viable solution depending on the collective bargaining agreement. It can be very difficult to take cost-cutting measures when it comes to tenured faculty. There are lots of protections in place.

I have seen at other schools where you are not allowed to fire an individual tenured faculty member as a cost cutting move, but you can eliminate an entire department.

Sadly, SC like NC has no public employee collective bargaining unless something changed very, very recently.

Good employees don't need collective bargaining. Their merits stand on their own.

I heard they were in the hole for 100 million,got any spare change you can give?

I wonder if they do shut down and then reopen if it wouldn't be to their benefit to drop the HBCU tag. There's been some debate lately that that may be hindering some of the HBCUs.