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				Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:16 pm
				by AppinATL
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:31 pm
				by appstfan
				Time for App to consider which sports to drop--
Like--wrestling--soccer--golf--tennis--which should we drop and which should we keep?
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:26 pm
				by moehler
				that's really surprising, Furman has been known nationally for having a great program, you would have thought a program like women's/men's tennis would have eliminated before mens golf.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:32 pm
				by JCline0429
				appstfan wrote:Time for App to consider which sports to drop--
Like--wrestling--soccer--golf--tennis--which should we drop and which should we keep?
Wrestling has helped place hundreds of coaching/teaching positions across NC and the country over the decades and soccer is America's fasting growing sport.  If we can't afford to keep our non-revenue sports, we can't afford to be in FBS.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:52 pm
				by Saint3333
				Furman is currently building a 50M facility attached to the football stadium.
They aren't going FBS, I believe this is a title nine issue.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:58 pm
				by TheMoody1
				They also hired a new President this week.
Furman University’s president-elect said she and her family were “hooked” on the idea of her taking the job after they visited downtown Greenville.
That was before the university’s Board of Trustees, which made its decision last Friday to lure Elizabeth Davis away from Baylor University, had even settled on a choice.
Davis, 51, was introduced this morning as the institution’s 12th president — and the first woman to hold the job — beginning July 1.
In a news conference following her introduction, Davis, now executive vice president and provost at said she has set no specific goals yet but will work to keep Furman relevant in a rapidly changing and increasingly competitive environment for higher education.
“First, all I’m going to do is listen,” she said.
Her chief accomplishment at Baylor, she said, was leading a visioning process that drew input from more than 2,000 people and set a new course for the university, which like Furman, is of Southern Baptist heritage.
Her husband, Charles, is a professor at Baylor and plans to join her in Greenville as soon as possible. They have a son who is a junior at Wake Forest University and a daughter who is a junior in high school and is considering Furman among other institutions to continue her education, Davis said.
Students, who were informed about the choice by email last night, said they were glad to see a woman chosen for the job.
“I think that’s a great step forward,” said Heather Ayer, a junior from Frankfort, Ky., majoring in French and political science.
Richard Cullen, chairman of Furman’s Board of Trustees, told GreenvilleOnline.com that the search committee received more than 70 “serious applications” and interviewed 16 candidates for the job before settling unanimously on Davis.
He said her gender was not a factor in the decision, but her business background was. She was trained as an accountant and led Baylor’s Department of Accounting and Business Law before moving up the ranks in the administration at the Waco, Texas school.
“Higher education is transforming every single day almost, and we want to make sure we continue to be a good value proposition for parents who are sending their kids and spending a lot of money to do that,” he said. “And one of the things Dr. Davis has expertise in is that cost-benefit analysis, so we’re excited about that.”
Between now and July 1, Davis will coninue to work at Baylor but spend time at Furman working with interim president Carl Kohrt on the transition, Cullen said.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:03 pm
				by T-Dog
				This is going to sound cruel, but if we can have great facilities for tennis and golf to be competitive, they should be looked at for being cut. However, we should then look at other sports we can be competitive to fill that gap like lacrosse or S&D.
Don't touch wrestling or soccer. Field Hockey is getting their own facility at State Farm next year so they're safe.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:53 pm
				by JCline0429
				T-Dog wrote:This is going to sound cruel, but if we can have great facilities for tennis and golf to be competitive, they should be looked at for being cut. However, we should then look at other sports we can be competitive to fill that gap like lacrosse or S&D.
Don't touch wrestling or soccer. Field Hockey is getting their own facility at State Farm next year so they're safe.
Didn't someone on here say that the SB was dropping swimming and diving?  Too, we would have to build a new facility for swimming and diving, wouldn't we? The present one's not suitable for competitive diving.
As to lacrosse, where would we play?  The soccer field is too heavily used to play and practice there.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:05 pm
				by CVAPP
				I think they have recently added lacrosse for both men and women.  That being the case they might need that scholly money elsewhere.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:54 pm
				by asu66
				CVAPP wrote:I think they have recently added lacrosse for both men and women.  That being the case they might need that scholly money elsewhere.
Bingo!  Title IX!  Something had to go on the men's side in order to add lacrosse.  It's a done deal!
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/news/2014 ... e%E2%80%99 
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:55 am
				by TheMoody1
				Backtrack. Furman will be keeping Men's Golf.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:42 pm
				by Black Saturday
				Furman shmurman, to heck with em. They are who I'm glad APP ain't.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:59 pm
				by appgrouch
				JCline0429 wrote:T-Dog wrote:This is going to sound cruel, but if we can have great facilities for tennis and golf to be competitive, they should be looked at for being cut. However, we should then look at other sports we can be competitive to fill that gap like lacrosse or S&D.
Don't touch wrestling or soccer. Field Hockey is getting their own facility at State Farm next year so they're safe.
Didn't someone on here say that the SB was dropping swimming and diving?  Too, we would have to build a new facility for swimming and diving, wouldn't we? The present one's not suitable for competitive diving.
As to lacrosse, where would we play?  The soccer field is too heavily used to play and practice there.
 
Current pool isn't set up for either.  We could do a deal with the county like with soccer.
If we dropped FH, the field could be modified for Lax.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:52 pm
				by App91
				I did not know I needed another reason to H8 Vermin!
Will never forget the sign at Michigan in 2005!
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:41 pm
				by Saint3333
				Ten years from now discussing Furman will mean you are old.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:01 pm
				by AppinVA
				Saint3333 wrote:Ten years from now discussing Furman will mean you are old.
Yes, but Furman will still, and always, suck.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:20 pm
				by App91
				AppinVA wrote:Saint3333 wrote:Ten years from now discussing Furman will mean you are old.
Yes, but Furman will still, and always, suck.
 
+eleventybillion!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:28 pm
				by scatman77
				I read earlier today that Brad Faxon and some other PGA/LPGA alumni have cowboyed up and are funding the program and establishing an endowment to sustain some scholarships.
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:47 pm
				by GoApps70
				I looked this up earlier today and posted it on 
http://csnbbs.com/thread-674285-page-34.html
Actually the Sun Belt offers less sports than the SoCon.
 SoCon has 10 men's sports and 9 women's.
 Sun Belt has 8 men's (9 next year with soccer added),
 and 9 women's sports.
SoCon Sports
Men's Sports
 Baseball
 Basketball
 Cross Country
 Football
 Golf
 Soccer
 Tennis
 Track & Field (Indoor)
 Track & Field (Outdoor)
 Wrestling
Women's Sports
 Basketball
 Cross Country
 Golf
 Soccer
 Softball
 Tennis
 Track & Field (Indoor)
 Track & Field (Outdoor)
 Volleyball 
Sun Belt
 
Men's Sports
 Football
 Basketball
 Indoor Track & Field
 Baseball
 Outdoor Track & Field
 Golf
 Tennis
 Cross Country
 Soccer (coming back next year)
Women's Sports
 Soccer
 Volleyball
 Basketball
 Indoor Track & Field
 Outdoor Track & Field
 Softball
 Cross Country
 Tennis
 Golf
 Someone check it out to make sure I got everything listed right.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Another reason to dislike Furman
				Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:08 am
				by Kgfish
				JCline0429 wrote:appstfan wrote:Time for App to consider which sports to drop--
Like--wrestling--soccer--golf--tennis--which should we drop and which should we keep?
Wrestling has helped place hundreds of coaching/teaching positions across NC and the country over the decades and soccer is America's fasting growing sport.  If we can't afford to keep our non-revenue sports, we can't afford to be in FBS.
 
It makes no sense for App keep sports that have to be played in other conferences or are weather sensitive.  The case against FH is well documented and Wrestling is going to remain in the SoCon which will now have teams from the Sun Belt, Big South, Atlantic Ten and OVC.  Only 36 FBS schools have wrestling and 25 of those are in the ACC, Big Ten or MAC. 
Because none of the area courses open until May our golf teams travel to Morganton to practice and we don't have an indoor tennis facility.   It just doesn't make any sense - financially or competitively - to maintain these sports.