Executive Order for College Sports

[Saint3333]

Lots to like in this:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/716990 ... rts-rules/

The order calls for athletes to be permitted to transfer just once as undergraduates and be immediately eligible to play for the new school. A second transfer would require the athlete to give up a year of eligibility without competing. Graduate students would get one additional free transfer once they have obtained a four-year degree.

[appstate24]

Lots to like in this:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/716990 ... rts-rules/

The order calls for athletes to be permitted to transfer just once as undergraduates and be immediately eligible to play for the new school. A second transfer would require the athlete to give up a year of eligibility without competing. Graduate students would get one additional free transfer once they have obtained a four-year degree.

Common sense. Imagine that!

[Lowcountry App]

Here comes the lawsuit.

[Saint3333]

Tell congress to do their jobs and pass laws.

[appdaze]

Yea this won't last. That will get sued away just like the last attempt to curb an employee in a capitalist economy.

[Saint3333]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

[AppStFan1]

Lots to like in this:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/716990 ... rts-rules/

The order calls for athletes to be permitted to transfer just once as undergraduates and be immediately eligible to play for the new school. A second transfer would require the athlete to give up a year of eligibility without competing. Graduate students would get one additional free transfer once they have obtained a four-year degree.

It is a good attempt at common sense but this requires laws passed by congress. This EO will get sued and it will lose in court.

[appdaze]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

[Mikeyosef1]

Lots to like in this:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/716990 ... rts-rules/

The order calls for athletes to be permitted to transfer just once as undergraduates and be immediately eligible to play for the new school. A second transfer would require the athlete to give up a year of eligibility without competing. Graduate students would get one additional free transfer once they have obtained a four-year degree.

This seems very reasonable and geared towards the player being a "student athlete" with the main goal being the student graduating with a 4 year degree. I've said it over and over again, the best path for most college athletes to change their financial lives is through a college degree, not NIL money. The flashy lure of NIL is not in the best interest most athletes and this order seeks to temper that lure.

[AppStFan1]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

This stuff is why I say we need antitrust exemption and it is time to label them employees. Just to make the system move smoothly, not have chaos every few months, and to prevent a lot of stupid movement by 18-23 year olds those rules would be great but it’s not legal without antitrust.

Does anyone know for sure if separating the AD as an LLC would allow them to avoid title IX so a lot of sports that lose money can be dropped?

[KentHogan]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

Then let’s stop calling it college athletics and pretending that it has anything to do with education any longer.

These players were not victims when they only received scholarships, they got a free education which was of value because the vast majority of them would never see a professional field.

They have always been compensated.

True NIL is fine, if Nike wants to pay a kid to rep its brand, fine. Pay for play from alumni is no longer college athletics, especially with endless eligibility and transferring.

[Stonewall]

“Student Athlete”. A bad joke.

[fjblair]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

I get your point, but that is not what the grown adults are attempting to accomplish here.

[BambooRdApp]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

[Saint3333]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

Simple.

Imagine getting a great job and having to sign a non-compete.

Edit - didn’t see very astute prior post.

[AppWyo]

Will these rules apply to coaches as well?

[AppWyo]

Do not confuse common sense with good sense.

[AppStFan1]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

Then let’s stop calling it college athletics and pretending that it has anything to do with education any longer.

These players were not victims when they only received scholarships, they got a free education which was of value because the vast majority of them would never see a professional field.

They have always been compensated.

True NIL is fine, if Nike wants to pay a kid to rep its brand, fine. Pay for play from alumni is no longer college athletics, especially with endless eligibility and transferring.

Amen. Here is another reality. A lot of them would have never even gotten in a D1 college without athletics because many of them did not have the grades. Athletics was a way for more men and women to get an opportunity for a good, free education and Title IX protected women but we have a segment of people who can't define a woman and people who think the athletes deserve to get paid. That is fine with me as long as we do the legal work to have guidelines like the NFL has so there are protections for both sides and we can stop pretending.

[AppStFan1]

Will these rules apply to coaches as well?

Coaches actually have buyouts in their deals so I say let's treat both the same and put buyouts on the players as well. App should get 100k every time a P4 wants one of our players and 50k from a G6 school. We have to put the education first and transferring 5 times is not good for graduating on time. We have a system developing future adults with the life lesson that if things are not perfect or adversity comes you just run and that is not a good lesson. I am not advocating for what we had before but I am advocating for true NIL, not pay to play, and a system where there is some order instead of this chaos.

[Saint3333]

The power schools don’t want contracts, shift just a small bit of leverage to other schools. Power they don’t want to lose.