Meanwhile in Charlotte…

[PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY]

All 4 of their fans on ninernation are already in complete meltdown mode after losing by 23 at home vs Jmwho? …and personally, I’m loving it!

[kornegaylw]

This is the pettiness I thrive on

[AppWyo]

All 4 of their fans on ninernation are already in complete meltdown mode after losing by 23 at home vs Jmwho? …and personally, I’m loving it!

It is a shame that Charlotte did not spend more time at the FCS level to truly build a program and culture that was more winning. Besides, JMU is a top level program all across the board and they should not feel bad to have lost to them.

On another note, I thought their move to the AAC was supposed to elevate their program. I guess it does not matter which conference you are in you can still suck given the chance.

[Rekdiver]

Biff is slowly learning how to coach in today’s world. He got humbled last year. Charlotte has no culture and it will take years if ever to develop one.

[AtlAppMan]

What was more impressive?

App beating ETSU 38-10

JMU beating UNCC 30-7

[Stonewall]

Glad they didn’t hire Lamb.

[appfanjj]

What was more impressive?

App beating ETSU 38-10

JMU beating UNCC 30-7

ETSU is a better team than Charlotte.
So…..

[AtlAppMan]

What was more impressive?

App beating ETSU 38-10

JMU beating UNCC 30-7

ETSU is a better team than Charlotte.
So…..

What were the lines on those two games?

Maybe what you say is true but the neutral party’s perception would not match your statement. Just saying that’s the world we live in (compete for recognition).

[AppStFan1]

What was more impressive?

App beating ETSU 38-10

JMU beating UNCC 30-7

ETSU is a better team than Charlotte.
So…..

Agree but I think Lamb is also a better coach than Poggi. Here is a question. If you are ECU and don't make a bowl this year do you replace Houston with Lamb? If Lamb can win 9 or more games at ETSU and at least win 1-2 games in playoffs I could see some G5 going after him since he would have proven to turn around 2 teams very quickly.

[AppWyo]

Biff is slowly learning how to coach in today’s world. He got humbled last year. Charlotte has no culture and it will take years if ever to develop one.

Maybe, instead of building a culture, Charlotte can just buy the culture they want to save time.

[appbanker]

Quote from a Charlotte Observer article:

‘At the beginning, it was splendid. A sellout crowd of 15,614.’

15,614 sellout?

[Yosef84]

I was talking to a Charlotte alum before the game. He said Charlotte had lost 9 starters to injuries during fall camp. I'd say that's a combination of poor camp design by the HC and poor S&C program. It's going to be a long season for the 49ers.

[Bigdaddyg1]

I think their stadium is kind of cool looking (for a high school). My son and I enjoyed that game there a few years ago. Do they even have the capability of adding 20,000 more seats? What is the point in having a larger stadium if you have 15k for your opener?

[moonshine]

I was talking to a Charlotte alum before the game. He said Charlotte had lost 9 starters to injuries during fall camp. I'd say that's a combination of poor camp design by the HC and poor S&C program. It's going to be a long season for the 49ers.

I believe UNCC was missing a few OL starters. Not sure if he’s injured and didn’t play or if the former App OLB (Spellman) failed to record any stats against JMU. Might be time for the 49er faithful to contact Grady Davis to get the AD and coach fired!

On the transfer note, Noel and Philyaw seem to be the only former Apps with any significant production this past weekend.

[Yosef84]

I think their stadium is kind of cool looking (for a high school). My son and I enjoyed that game there a few years ago. Do they even have the capability of adding 20,000 more seats? What is the point in having a larger stadium if you have 15k for your opener?

Charlotte does have a very nice small stadium. It was planned to allow expansion to 40K (I think that's the number) in phases. That's why there is so much space behind the stands. You're right though. They need to find some butts for those seats before expansion is really an issue although I think the AAC required a commitment from them that might push that to the front burner before it's really needed.

[AppSt94]

I was talking to a Charlotte alum before the game. He said Charlotte had lost 9 starters to injuries during fall camp. I'd say that's a combination of poor camp design by the HC and poor S&C program. It's going to be a long season for the 49ers.

I believe UNCC was missing a few OL starters. Not sure if he’s injured and didn’t play or if the former App OLB (Spellman) failed to record any stats against JMU. Might be time for the 49er faithful to contact Grady Davis to get the AD and coach fired!

On the transfer note, Noel and Philyaw seem to be the only former Apps with any significant production this past weekend.

McLeod led Auburn in tackles this week.

[Bigdaddyg1]

I don’t think it’s anything shocking when we see former App guys performing well at the Major League level (so to speak). I’d always really wondered about the recruiting and the star process. I can see where a 6’6” 340lb high school player at a larger school would garner high praise but that 6’4” 300lb kid at the 2A might be better in 2 years. We obviously bring in guys who can really play anywhere but for whatever reason get snubbed by the big boys. Noel could probably play for any team in the country. We might have a top 20 quarterback (nationally ranked)- who knows? So much is a crapshoot

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I think their stadium is kind of cool looking (for a high school). My son and I enjoyed that game there a few years ago. Do they even have the capability of adding 20,000 more seats? What is the point in having a larger stadium if you have 15k for your opener?

Charlotte does have a very nice small stadium. It was planned to allow expansion to 40K (I think that's the number) in phases. That's why there is so much space behind the stands. You're right though. They need to find some butts for those seats before expansion is really an issue although I think the AAC required a commitment from them that might push that to the front burner before it's really needed.

And that is the problem Charlotte has. Once the program started they rushed out of the FCS without building any tradition of wining. They could have stayed in CUSA, which is clearly a weaker conference than AAC, and had a chance to win some. But they plowed ahead (I doubt anyone would have done differently but still it likely is hurting more than helping right now.) and now being in the AAC they are being tasked to build a bigger stadium that is going to cost and likely not be used and saddle them with debt that makes other moves such as getting rid of coaches all that much harder.

I am glad they are not doing too much with winning in FB as they along with ECU are our most direct rivals for talent in NC. But it would be good to have them push us a bit more as well, like a pace setter in a marathon. And it seems they are being worked into the schedule more than ECU and having a non-conference rival is not bad, but a rival needs some amount of being somewhat level.

Their strengths of a big city is also their weakness. Ga St has some of the same problems.

[Yosef84]

I think their stadium is kind of cool looking (for a high school). My son and I enjoyed that game there a few years ago. Do they even have the capability of adding 20,000 more seats? What is the point in having a larger stadium if you have 15k for your opener?

Charlotte does have a very nice small stadium. It was planned to allow expansion to 40K (I think that's the number) in phases. That's why there is so much space behind the stands. You're right though. They need to find some butts for those seats before expansion is really an issue although I think the AAC required a commitment from them that might push that to the front burner before it's really needed.

And that is the problem Charlotte has. Once the program started they rushed out of the FCS without building any tradition of wining. They could have stayed in CUSA, which is clearly a weaker conference than AAC, and had a chance to win some. But they plowed ahead (I doubt anyone would have done differently but still it likely is hurting more than helping right now.) and now being in the AAC they are being tasked to build a bigger stadium that is going to cost and likely not be used and saddle them with debt that makes other moves such as getting rid of coaches all that much harder.

I am glad they are not doing too much with winning in FB as they along with ECU are our most direct rivals for talent in NC. But it would be good to have them push us a bit more as well, like a pace setter in a marathon. And it seems they are being worked into the schedule more than ECU and having a non-conference rival is not bad, but a rival needs some amount of being somewhat level.

Their strengths of a big city is also their weakness. Ga St has some of the same problems.

I completely agree that Charlotte jumping directly into CUSA (and now the AAC) has not served them well. When they first got the invitation, I remember talking about it being an interesting case study. It would give them immediate lift in recruiting and could accelerate their growth, but the lack of history, experience and tradition was going to be tough. Add into that mix a couple of misses in coaching hires and we now have out answer. They wasted the opportunity. I also agree that, it wouldn't be bad for App if they were a little bit better. I'm not a lover of Charlotte, but it does make for an obvious local rivalry situation that could be beneficial in scheduling, etc.

[Mjohn1988]

I had a cousin who had just graduated from UNCC when they started their program. When I saw him at family events he was always crowing about getting into conferences USAA. And always talking about how they would take all of our recruits. Cause you know who would want to be in Boone when you could be in Charlotte. I told him then that UNCC needed to succeed as an FBS program before jumping to FCS. I also told him that being in Charlotte wouldn’t help them in recruiting. UNCC didn’t build a foundation and in my opinion being in Charlotte isn’t a plus. The only way they build a fan base in Charlotte is to win, win, win. And that ain’t going to happen. So they might as well just leave that stadium at 20k.