NCAA and Prig5 anti trust settlement

[AppSt94]

There will likely be contracts associated with NIL with stipulations and provisos regarding expectations around the payment. They will likely entail, class attendance, grade thresholds and integrity clauses.

This isn’t NIL. It’s payment directly from the school.

Those payments are not required. So, the school can still do NIL deals with whatever monies they decide to allocate. There is no requirement that a school spend $20M. The school still decides how those monies will be allocated and to whom. Its unclear at this point what impact Title IX will have but nothing prevents schools from putting stipulations on the monies shared with athletes.

This brings up a good point. If they are employees, contract or direct hire, they don’t work for App. They work for the State of North Carolina. So is there a sliding scale that determines compensation? How does the State pay a LB more at a Carolina than at a NCA&T?

You can make that argument, but do you really thing the BoG will see it that way? This is the UNC system, after all, which shuns most all academic expansion of App State in favor of just creeping UNC slowly down I-40/85. NC State doesn’t even get the same preferential treatment as UNC and they have had the better athletics programs, as well as more in demand academic programs, the past 10 to 15 years.

ECU has been fortunate enough to have a Medical School which has a ton of coverage east of Greenville. I currently reside in Edenton and ECU Health has expanded out here and I wish they would expand out to Elizabeth City because their service is much, much better than what is currently in place there.

That aside (you know I like to ramble, it’s my ADHD, I’ve been this way since 17), UNC will get whatever they ask for and it will be buried in some circular logic that is easily refutable yet will be rife with plausible deniability and some gaslighting of App. There may even be threats to the University about other funding.


I understand the school won’t have to pay athletes, but if programs in the conference and FBS are doing so, App is going to have to find a way. Winning on culture has sustained App thus far, and Shawn Clark has been a huge part of that continued culture. His sales pitch, and commitment, seems to outweigh the potential negatives due to lack of NIL relative to others. But how long does that last? How many Joey’s, Peoples, Kaiden Robinson’s, Parker’s, Nate Noel’s are there going to be in five years?

This next generation of kids will have been brought up with the expectation of payment. They won’t see it as a perk but will rather see it as being mandatory. That’s the question that will be answered. As of now, App has a great core of young men who will be successful in life after football, while also being high performers on the field. It’s going to continue to be harder to meet the burden of both as more money is pumped in all around us.

Compensation as an employee comes from the state budget. The thoughts of the BoG are irrelevant. If they are employees, regardless of which school they “work” for, we are going to be footing the bill. I don’t see them becoming employees because of the backlash from citizens. There are far more non football fans in the country than there are football fans.

[bcoach]

Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, will be a bad idea. We truly are a nation of shortsighted thinkers. How is possible that people did not see this coming. I am 100% serious, how is it possible.

[AppSt94]

Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, will be a bad idea. We truly are a nation of shortsighted thinkers. How is possible that people did not see this coming. I am 100% serious, how is it possible.

Completely agree.

[Mjohn1988]

Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, will be a bad idea. We truly are a nation of shortsighted thinkers. How is possible that people did not see this coming. I am 100% serious, how is it possible.

The money was pouring in. I had a boss one time who said everything’s funny with a pocket full of money.

[Mjohn1988]

This isn’t NIL. It’s payment directly from the school.

Those payments are not required. So, the school can still do NIL deals with whatever monies they decide to allocate. There is no requirement that a school spend $20M. The school still decides how those monies will be allocated and to whom. Its unclear at this point what impact Title IX will have but nothing prevents schools from putting stipulations on the monies shared with athletes.

This brings up a good point. If they are employees, contract or direct hire, they don’t work for App. They work for the State of North Carolina. So is there a sliding scale that determines compensation? How does the State pay a LB more at a Carolina than at a NCA&T?

You can make that argument, but do you really thing the BoG will see it that way? This is the UNC system, after all, which shuns most all academic expansion of App State in favor of just creeping UNC slowly down I-40/85. NC State doesn’t even get the same preferential treatment as UNC and they have had the better athletics programs, as well as more in demand academic programs, the past 10 to 15 years.

ECU has been fortunate enough to have a Medical School which has a ton of coverage east of Greenville. I currently reside in Edenton and ECU Health has expanded out here and I wish they would expand out to Elizabeth City because their service is much, much better than what is currently in place there.

That aside (you know I like to ramble, it’s my ADHD, I’ve been this way since 17), UNC will get whatever they ask for and it will be buried in some circular logic that is easily refutable yet will be rife with plausible deniability and some gaslighting of App. There may even be threats to the University about other funding.


I understand the school won’t have to pay athletes, but if programs in the conference and FBS are doing so, App is going to have to find a way. Winning on culture has sustained App thus far, and Shawn Clark has been a huge part of that continued culture. His sales pitch, and commitment, seems to outweigh the potential negatives due to lack of NIL relative to others. But how long does that last? How many Joey’s, Peoples, Kaiden Robinson’s, Parker’s, Nate Noel’s are there going to be in five years?

This next generation of kids will have been brought up with the expectation of payment. They won’t see it as a perk but will rather see it as being mandatory. That’s the question that will be answered. As of now, App has a great core of young men who will be successful in life after football, while also being high performers on the field. It’s going to continue to be harder to meet the burden of both as more money is pumped in all around us.

Compensation as an employee comes from the state budget. The thoughts of the BoG are irrelevant. If they are employees, regardless of which school they “work” for, we are going to be footing the bill. I don’t see them becoming employees because of the backlash from citizens. There are far more non football fans in the country than there are football fans.

The city of Charlotte just allocated $650,000,000 in tax dollars to renovate BOA stadium. Not saying I like it but we are a society that will pay for entertainment. What we won’t pay for is K12 teachers, police officers and firefighters.

[AppSt94]

Those payments are not required. So, the school can still do NIL deals with whatever monies they decide to allocate. There is no requirement that a school spend $20M. The school still decides how those monies will be allocated and to whom. Its unclear at this point what impact Title IX will have but nothing prevents schools from putting stipulations on the monies shared with athletes.

This brings up a good point. If they are employees, contract or direct hire, they don’t work for App. They work for the State of North Carolina. So is there a sliding scale that determines compensation? How does the State pay a LB more at a Carolina than at a NCA&T?

You can make that argument, but do you really thing the BoG will see it that way? This is the UNC system, after all, which shuns most all academic expansion of App State in favor of just creeping UNC slowly down I-40/85. NC State doesn’t even get the same preferential treatment as UNC and they have had the better athletics programs, as well as more in demand academic programs, the past 10 to 15 years.

ECU has been fortunate enough to have a Medical School which has a ton of coverage east of Greenville. I currently reside in Edenton and ECU Health has expanded out here and I wish they would expand out to Elizabeth City because their service is much, much better than what is currently in place there.

That aside (you know I like to ramble, it’s my ADHD, I’ve been this way since 17), UNC will get whatever they ask for and it will be buried in some circular logic that is easily refutable yet will be rife with plausible deniability and some gaslighting of App. There may even be threats to the University about other funding.


I understand the school won’t have to pay athletes, but if programs in the conference and FBS are doing so, App is going to have to find a way. Winning on culture has sustained App thus far, and Shawn Clark has been a huge part of that continued culture. His sales pitch, and commitment, seems to outweigh the potential negatives due to lack of NIL relative to others. But how long does that last? How many Joey’s, Peoples, Kaiden Robinson’s, Parker’s, Nate Noel’s are there going to be in five years?

This next generation of kids will have been brought up with the expectation of payment. They won’t see it as a perk but will rather see it as being mandatory. That’s the question that will be answered. As of now, App has a great core of young men who will be successful in life after football, while also being high performers on the field. It’s going to continue to be harder to meet the burden of both as more money is pumped in all around us.

Compensation as an employee comes from the state budget. The thoughts of the BoG are irrelevant. If they are employees, regardless of which school they “work” for, we are going to be footing the bill. I don’t see them becoming employees because of the backlash from citizens. There are far more non football fans in the country than there are football fans.

The city of Charlotte just allocated $650,000,000 in tax dollars to renovate BOA stadium. Not saying I like it but we are a society that will pay for entertainment. What we won’t pay for is K12 teachers, police officers and firefighters.

True. But the city can justify that to citizens in terms of recouping the investment through tourism revenue. Not saying that it justifies the upfront cost, but there is ROI.

[Mjohn1988]

This brings up a good point. If they are employees, contract or direct hire, they don’t work for App. They work for the State of North Carolina. So is there a sliding scale that determines compensation? How does the State pay a LB more at a Carolina than at a NCA&T?

You can make that argument, but do you really thing the BoG will see it that way? This is the UNC system, after all, which shuns most all academic expansion of App State in favor of just creeping UNC slowly down I-40/85. NC State doesn’t even get the same preferential treatment as UNC and they have had the better athletics programs, as well as more in demand academic programs, the past 10 to 15 years.

ECU has been fortunate enough to have a Medical School which has a ton of coverage east of Greenville. I currently reside in Edenton and ECU Health has expanded out here and I wish they would expand out to Elizabeth City because their service is much, much better than what is currently in place there.

That aside (you know I like to ramble, it’s my ADHD, I’ve been this way since 17), UNC will get whatever they ask for and it will be buried in some circular logic that is easily refutable yet will be rife with plausible deniability and some gaslighting of App. There may even be threats to the University about other funding.


I understand the school won’t have to pay athletes, but if programs in the conference and FBS are doing so, App is going to have to find a way. Winning on culture has sustained App thus far, and Shawn Clark has been a huge part of that continued culture. His sales pitch, and commitment, seems to outweigh the potential negatives due to lack of NIL relative to others. But how long does that last? How many Joey’s, Peoples, Kaiden Robinson’s, Parker’s, Nate Noel’s are there going to be in five years?

This next generation of kids will have been brought up with the expectation of payment. They won’t see it as a perk but will rather see it as being mandatory. That’s the question that will be answered. As of now, App has a great core of young men who will be successful in life after football, while also being high performers on the field. It’s going to continue to be harder to meet the burden of both as more money is pumped in all around us.

Compensation as an employee comes from the state budget. The thoughts of the BoG are irrelevant. If they are employees, regardless of which school they “work” for, we are going to be footing the bill. I don’t see them becoming employees because of the backlash from citizens. There are far more non football fans in the country than there are football fans.

The city of Charlotte just allocated $650,000,000 in tax dollars to renovate BOA stadium. Not saying I like it but we are a society that will pay for entertainment. What we won’t pay for is K12 teachers, police officers and firefighters.

True. But the city can justify that to citizens in terms of recouping the investment through tourism revenue. Not saying that it justifies the upfront cost, but there is ROI.

Imagine the economic impact of a well educated safe city. Now in know that money alone can't accomplish either of those things but paying the “boots on the ground” folks certainly wouldn’t hurt the effort to accomplish either of those things. I understand your point but it actually reinforces my point, people will pay for entertainment.

[AppSt94]

You can make that argument, but do you really thing the BoG will see it that way? This is the UNC system, after all, which shuns most all academic expansion of App State in favor of just creeping UNC slowly down I-40/85. NC State doesn’t even get the same preferential treatment as UNC and they have had the better athletics programs, as well as more in demand academic programs, the past 10 to 15 years.

ECU has been fortunate enough to have a Medical School which has a ton of coverage east of Greenville. I currently reside in Edenton and ECU Health has expanded out here and I wish they would expand out to Elizabeth City because their service is much, much better than what is currently in place there.

That aside (you know I like to ramble, it’s my ADHD, I’ve been this way since 17), UNC will get whatever they ask for and it will be buried in some circular logic that is easily refutable yet will be rife with plausible deniability and some gaslighting of App. There may even be threats to the University about other funding.


I understand the school won’t have to pay athletes, but if programs in the conference and FBS are doing so, App is going to have to find a way. Winning on culture has sustained App thus far, and Shawn Clark has been a huge part of that continued culture. His sales pitch, and commitment, seems to outweigh the potential negatives due to lack of NIL relative to others. But how long does that last? How many Joey’s, Peoples, Kaiden Robinson’s, Parker’s, Nate Noel’s are there going to be in five years?

This next generation of kids will have been brought up with the expectation of payment. They won’t see it as a perk but will rather see it as being mandatory. That’s the question that will be answered. As of now, App has a great core of young men who will be successful in life after football, while also being high performers on the field. It’s going to continue to be harder to meet the burden of both as more money is pumped in all around us.

Compensation as an employee comes from the state budget. The thoughts of the BoG are irrelevant. If they are employees, regardless of which school they “work” for, we are going to be footing the bill. I don’t see them becoming employees because of the backlash from citizens. There are far more non football fans in the country than there are football fans.

The city of Charlotte just allocated $650,000,000 in tax dollars to renovate BOA stadium. Not saying I like it but we are a society that will pay for entertainment. What we won’t pay for is K12 teachers, police officers and firefighters.

True. But the city can justify that to citizens in terms of recouping the investment through tourism revenue. Not saying that it justifies the upfront cost, but there is ROI.

Imagine the economic impact of a well educated safe city. Now in know that money alone can't accomplish either of those things but paying the “boots on the ground” folks certainly wouldn’t hurt the effort to accomplish either of those things. I understand your point but it actually reinforces my point, people will pay for entertainment.

Not a Charlotte/Mecklenburg resident but was there a referendum provided for the citizens to vote on it?

[Mjohn1988]

Compensation as an employee comes from the state budget. The thoughts of the BoG are irrelevant. If they are employees, regardless of which school they “work” for, we are going to be footing the bill. I don’t see them becoming employees because of the backlash from citizens. There are far more non football fans in the country than there are football fans.

The city of Charlotte just allocated $650,000,000 in tax dollars to renovate BOA stadium. Not saying I like it but we are a society that will pay for entertainment. What we won’t pay for is K12 teachers, police officers and firefighters.

True. But the city can justify that to citizens in terms of recouping the investment through tourism revenue. Not saying that it justifies the upfront cost, but there is ROI.

Imagine the economic impact of a well educated safe city. Now in know that money alone can't accomplish either of those things but paying the “boots on the ground” folks certainly wouldn’t hurt the effort to accomplish either of those things. I understand your point but it actually reinforces my point, people will pay for entertainment.

Not a Charlotte/Mecklenburg resident but was there a referendum provided for the citizens to vote on it?

No, it was a city council vote. They are using hotel, restaurant tax money. But if you really think about it locals that have P5 schools like Alabama and Michigan could use the same revenue argument as professional sports teams. Heck Boone and Blowing Rock get an economic bump from game day. I think if it came down to canceling college football our society would pony up the money.

[appstatealum]

So essentially many more people are being exposed to the fact that socialism doesn't work and any further progression into this will only lead to more of a mess. Got it.

[AppSt94]

The city of Charlotte just allocated $650,000,000 in tax dollars to renovate BOA stadium. Not saying I like it but we are a society that will pay for entertainment. What we won’t pay for is K12 teachers, police officers and firefighters.

True. But the city can justify that to citizens in terms of recouping the investment through tourism revenue. Not saying that it justifies the upfront cost, but there is ROI.

Imagine the economic impact of a well educated safe city. Now in know that money alone can't accomplish either of those things but paying the “boots on the ground” folks certainly wouldn’t hurt the effort to accomplish either of those things. I understand your point but it actually reinforces my point, people will pay for entertainment.

Not a Charlotte/Mecklenburg resident but was there a referendum provided for the citizens to vote on it?

No, it was a city council vote. They are using hotel, restaurant tax money. But if you really think about it locals that have P5 schools like Alabama and Michigan could use the same revenue argument as professional sports teams. Heck Boone and Blowing Rock get an economic bump from game day. I think if it came down to canceling college football our society would pony up the money.

That a bit shady to not offer up a referendum. But I guess they aren’t asking folks to be taxed more, just reallocating what is coming in.

As for college sports. There are more people that either don’t care if sports go away than care if they stay in this country. Look at our alumni base versus the Yosef Club membership.

[Mjohn1988]

True. But the city can justify that to citizens in terms of recouping the investment through tourism revenue. Not saying that it justifies the upfront cost, but there is ROI.

Imagine the economic impact of a well educated safe city. Now in know that money alone can't accomplish either of those things but paying the “boots on the ground” folks certainly wouldn’t hurt the effort to accomplish either of those things. I understand your point but it actually reinforces my point, people will pay for entertainment.

Not a Charlotte/Mecklenburg resident but was there a referendum provided for the citizens to vote on it?

No, it was a city council vote. They are using hotel, restaurant tax money. But if you really think about it locals that have P5 schools like Alabama and Michigan could use the same revenue argument as professional sports teams. Heck Boone and Blowing Rock get an economic bump from game day. I think if it came down to canceling college football our society would pony up the money.

That a bit shady to not offer up a referendum. But I guess they aren’t asking folks to be taxed more, just reallocating what is coming in.

As for college sports. There are more people that either don’t care if sports go away than care if they stay in this country. Look at our alumni base versus the Yosef Club membership.

College football is part of the fabric of our society. It may get less popular because of this but it’s not going away.

[Saint3333]

Panther vote is on June 24th.

Based on Tepper's track record I say let him pay for 100% of the upgrades. The stadium is an asset of the Panther organization and not owned by the city.

Don't give me that what about the revenue to the city line either, the incremental difference in hotel and restaurant traffic will be nil.

[AppSt94]

Imagine the economic impact of a well educated safe city. Now in know that money alone can't accomplish either of those things but paying the “boots on the ground” folks certainly wouldn’t hurt the effort to accomplish either of those things. I understand your point but it actually reinforces my point, people will pay for entertainment.

Not a Charlotte/Mecklenburg resident but was there a referendum provided for the citizens to vote on it?

No, it was a city council vote. They are using hotel, restaurant tax money. But if you really think about it locals that have P5 schools like Alabama and Michigan could use the same revenue argument as professional sports teams. Heck Boone and Blowing Rock get an economic bump from game day. I think if it came down to canceling college football our society would pony up the money.

That a bit shady to not offer up a referendum. But I guess they aren’t asking folks to be taxed more, just reallocating what is coming in.

As for college sports. There are more people that either don’t care if sports go away than care if they stay in this country. Look at our alumni base versus the Yosef Club membership.

College football is part of the fabric of our society. It may get less popular because of this but it’s not going away.

Meh. There are a lot of things that you could correlate that to that are no longer the case.

[bcoach]

Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, will be a bad idea. We truly are a nation of shortsighted thinkers. How is possible that people did not see this coming. I am 100% serious, how is it possible.

The money was pouring in. I had a boss one time who said everything’s funny with a pocket full of money.

That is the very point that is overlooked. The money pours in in SOME places not most places. One more time the powers to be were thinking backwards.

[Mjohn1988]

Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, will be a bad idea. We truly are a nation of shortsighted thinkers. How is possible that people did not see this coming. I am 100% serious, how is it possible.

The money was pouring in. I had a boss one time who said everything’s funny with a pocket full of money.

That is the very point that is overlooked. The money pours in in SOME places not most places. One more time the powers to be were thinking backwards.

My point was that they didn’t think at all. Just enjoy the money.

[BambooRdApp]

I figured something like this would be coming down the pipe

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... mpensation

[t4pizza]

I figured something like this would be coming down the pipe

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... mpensation

Perhaps it is time for our 2007 team to get on the bandwagon and get some cabbage. Think how many times CL's blocked FG been shown on tv over the years. Many say it launched the Big10 network bc everyone else had to pay royalties to share the highlights. I am only halfway joking with this idea; I mean if NCSU can do it why can't we?

[AppSt94]

I figured something like this would be coming down the pipe

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... mpensation

Perhaps it is time for our 2007 team to get on the bandwagon and get some cabbage. Think how many times CL's blocked FG been shown on tv over the years. Many say it launched the Big10 network bc everyone else had to pay royalties to share the highlights. I am only halfway joking with this idea; I mean if NCSU can do it why can't we?

I was on the new highlights when the Wilmington station covered the ACC barnstorming tour back in 1983. I wonder if I can sue?

[bcoach]

Let's get it over with because this slow death of the college system is painful.