Other scores - 10/5-10/7

[Black Saturday]

31-0 now.

BuT ULM Is SnEaKy GoOd ThIs YeAr!¡

They’re the second coming of Gardner Webb.

Third coming of ETSU

[DenverOfTheEast]

ULM beat Army, and today Army is beating & was favored over Boston College, let that sink in.

Several people last week kept saying that ULM is terrible. I did not understand that at all

Those people were going by past year outcomes, not the same ULM program or talent of previous 9 seasons. Those people don't know sport they just check scores and assume.

Bigdaddyg1 - Lions don't bother with a sheep's opinion!

South Alabama 45 ULM 7 4th qtr.
But, ULM is good. They are better than 2-3 Army and better than FCS 2-3 Lamar

I knew I'd wake up with this...

Hey it's sports ULM had over a week to prepare for App State lose at the buzzer, don't have emotional focus to bounce back vs USA, so there you have it.

But Wyoming knocked off a rank team...

[Saint3333]

Wyoming is a well coached team that punches above their talent level.

ULM isn’t very good in the trenches and that is USA’s strength.

We’ve had ten days to prepare for CCU, with a decided advantage in the trenches, time for a clean resounding win.

Off topic have about the coaching decision by Miami last night…

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

ULM beat Army, and today Army is beating & was favored over Boston College, let that sink in.

Several people last week kept saying that ULM is terrible. I did not understand that at all

Those people were going by past year outcomes, not the same ULM program or talent of previous 9 seasons. Those people don't know sport they just check scores and assume.

Bigdaddyg1 - Lions don't bother with a sheep's opinion!

South Alabama 45 ULM 7 4th qtr.
But, ULM is good. They are better than 2-3 Army and better than FCS 2-3 Lamar

I knew I'd wake up with this...

Hey it's sports ULM had over a week to prepare for App State lose at the buzzer, don't have emotional focus to bounce back vs USA, so there you have it.

But Wyoming knocked off a rank team...

Wyoming played a great game against Fresno State, but don't let the number next to the name fool you this early in the season. Had more P5 schools had better records Fresno State wouldn't have been ranked. Wyoming is the only team they've played with a winning record, and they lost. Had to go to overtime to beat Eastern Washington. Coaches and Media that put these polls together this early in the season don't put much effort beyond the top 10

[Bigdaddyg1]

Several people last week kept saying that ULM is terrible. I did not understand that at all

Those people were going by past year outcomes, not the same ULM program or talent of previous 9 seasons. Those people don't know sport they just check scores and assume.

Bigdaddyg1 - Lions don't bother with a sheep's opinion!

South Alabama 45 ULM 7 4th qtr.
But, ULM is good. They are better than 2-3 Army and better than FCS 2-3 Lamar

I knew I'd wake up with this...

Hey it's sports ULM had over a week to prepare for App State lose at the buzzer, don't have emotional focus to bounce back vs USA, so there you have it.

But Wyoming knocked off a rank team...

Wyoming played a great game against Fresno State, but don't let the number next to the name fool you this early in the season. Had more P5 schools had better records Fresno State wouldn't have been ranked. Wyoming is the only team they've played with a winning record, and they lost. Had to go to overtime to beat Eastern Washington. Coaches and Media that put these polls together this early in the season don't put much effort beyond the top 10

5 games into a season is there much difference in the 25th ranked team and the 40th? I say little to none especially when you have to consider who teams played. I would say that our overall schedule has been tough. If you look at several week 1 games a whole bunch were probably closer than they should have been. If ECU plays Michigan again it ain't 30-3.

[Rick83]

That Miami - Ga Tech game ending was unbelievable and our old friend from TX A&M who struggled against our defense, Haynes King, was the big hero for Ga Tech.
Unbelievable that Miami just didn't take a knee and take a win.

[311neers]

Bad coaching keeps college football exciting every week. I’m not sure how some of these guys keep jobs. That was a fireable offense for Cristobal against a team that got dog walked by Bowling Green.

[WVAPPeer]

When do you fire your "chosen son" coach over one stupid move? Really, if a couple of you guys were ADs every school would be in trouble -

[AppStFan1]

Several people last week kept saying that ULM is terrible. I did not understand that at all

Those people were going by past year outcomes, not the same ULM program or talent of previous 9 seasons. Those people don't know sport they just check scores and assume.

Bigdaddyg1 - Lions don't bother with a sheep's opinion!

South Alabama 45 ULM 7 4th qtr.
But, ULM is good. They are better than 2-3 Army and better than FCS 2-3 Lamar

I knew I'd wake up with this...

Hey it's sports ULM had over a week to prepare for App State lose at the buzzer, don't have emotional focus to bounce back vs USA, so there you have it.

But Wyoming knocked off a rank team...

Wyoming played a great game against Fresno State, but don't let the number next to the name fool you this early in the season. Had more P5 schools had better records Fresno State wouldn't have been ranked. Wyoming is the only team they've played with a winning record, and they lost. Had to go to overtime to beat Eastern Washington. Coaches and Media that put these polls together this early in the season don't put much effort beyond the top 10

Fresno State being ranked shows that many voters just slot teams and go by records. I don't think they should have been ranked and Wyoming is not quite there yet but could be.

[BambooRdApp]

Fresno State being ranked before the game yesterday and Wyoming should not be ranked is a matter of opinion. Fresno has beaten two P5 teams and Wyoming has beaten one... albeit not very good ones.and WYO has Texas 10-10 going into Q4 I believe...up to this point in the season, Fresno should have been ranked...and Wyoming should be ranked now...

[AppStFan1]

Fresno State being ranked before the game yesterday and Wyoming should not be ranked is a matter of opinion. Fresno has beaten two P5 teams and Wyoming has beaten one... albeit not very good ones.and WYO has Texas 10-10 going into Q4 I believe...up to this point in the season, Fresno should have been ranked...and Wyoming should be ranked now...

Those P5 teams were not good, as you said, and they only beat a FCS EWU by 3 points. If it was SDSU then I could see it but EWU is not even ranked in the top 20. I think the top 25 should be the best 25 teams/resumes and Wyoming does not have that yet. They will have a strong case with a win over Air Force and if they keep it up. Their resume will take a huge hit if App, Texas, and Fresno don't look strong.

Voters tend to punish top 25 P5 teams for not beating awful P5s by enough but we see credit given to a G5 for beating a bad one. Just because a team is 5-0 or 6-0 does not mean they should be ranked.

[BambooRdApp]

Fresno State being ranked before the game yesterday and Wyoming should not be ranked is a matter of opinion. Fresno has beaten two P5 teams and Wyoming has beaten one... albeit not very good ones.and WYO has Texas 10-10 going into Q4 I believe...up to this point in the season, Fresno should have been ranked...and Wyoming should be ranked now...

Those P5 teams were not good, as you said, and they only beat a FCS EWU by 3 points. If it was SDSU then I could see it but EWU is not even ranked in the top 20. I think the top 25 should be the best 25 teams/resumes and Wyoming does not have that yet. They will have a strong case with a win over Air Force and if they keep it up. Their resume will take a huge hit if App, Texas, and Fresno don't look strong.

Voters tend to punish top 25 P5 teams for not beating awful P5s by enough but we see credit given to a G5 for beating a bad one. Just because a team is 5-0 or 6-0 does not mean they should be ranked.

As said..it is a matter of opinion..to each his/her own

[BambooRdApp]

Fresno State being ranked before the game yesterday and Wyoming should not be ranked is a matter of opinion. Fresno has beaten two P5 teams and Wyoming has beaten one... albeit not very good ones.and WYO has Texas 10-10 going into Q4 I believe...up to this point in the season, Fresno should have been ranked...and Wyoming should be ranked now...

Those P5 teams were not good, as you said, and they only beat a FCS EWU by 3 points. If it was SDSU then I could see it but EWU is not even ranked in the top 20. I think the top 25 should be the best 25 teams/resumes and Wyoming does not have that yet. They will have a strong case with a win over Air Force and if they keep it up. Their resume will take a huge hit if App, Texas, and Fresno don't look strong.

Voters tend to punish top 25 P5 teams for not beating awful P5s by enough but we see credit given to a G5 for beating a bad one. Just because a team is 5-0 or 6-0 does not mean they should be ranked.

As stated..it is a matter of ones opinion.. evidently it does. Fresno was ranked until they lost.

[AppStFan1]

Fresno State being ranked before the game yesterday and Wyoming should not be ranked is a matter of opinion. Fresno has beaten two P5 teams and Wyoming has beaten one... albeit not very good ones.and WYO has Texas 10-10 going into Q4 I believe...up to this point in the season, Fresno should have been ranked...and Wyoming should be ranked now...

Those P5 teams were not good, as you said, and they only beat a FCS EWU by 3 points. If it was SDSU then I could see it but EWU is not even ranked in the top 20. I think the top 25 should be the best 25 teams/resumes and Wyoming does not have that yet. They will have a strong case with a win over Air Force and if they keep it up. Their resume will take a huge hit if App, Texas, and Fresno don't look strong.

Voters tend to punish top 25 P5 teams for not beating awful P5s by enough but we see credit given to a G5 for beating a bad one. Just because a team is 5-0 or 6-0 does not mean they should be ranked.

As stated..it is a matter of ones opinion.. evidently it does. Fresno was ranked until they lost.

For sure. Some people look at record and don't put as much stock into quality of wins. By week 10 or 11 it is very different but that is why so many teams get votes the first 5-6 weeks because nobody has truly separated themselves yet. Opinions vary the most right now but we will start to see teams eliminated from discussion here in the next 3-4 weeks.

[appst89]

When do you fire your "chosen son" coach over one stupid move? Really, if a couple of you guys were ADs every school would be in trouble -

For whatever it’s worth, there were multiple pundits, with varying credentials, on sports talk radio last night and today saying that such an egregious coaching error is an immediately fireable offense.

[WVAPPeer]

Really? - that's just plain crazy - this is Miami's guy. It's not like he is running around with a cheerleader or running an illegal ponzi scheme - I mean every coach has done something really stupid - even Coach Saban with the crazy FG attempt against Auburn that was returned 109 yards and cost them the season

[Bootsy]

Any HC's who made bad coaching decisions yesterday have to be thanking Cristobal for crapping the bed like that. Nothing feels better than not drawing fire because Mario was the first one out of the foxhole.

[WASU 93]

My god the over use of the football transitive property in order to prove that we are not very good is getting ridiculous. Football is a crazy game. Sometimes you you win, sometimes you lose and sometimes your opponent plays well and sometimes games are tight. It happens.

One reason I don't subscribe to transitive property beyond direct proof is that teams can also improve and crazy things can happen like you said. I don't expect to be the same team in November that we were 2 weeks ago but I want to see how we look. I think the next 3 games will help tell us if we have a shot to be good or if we are likely in for another 6-6 or worse finish. Regardless if people are using scores or not I don't think it is unfair to say we have not been very impressive so far. Direct proof of that is we had Wyoming beat but somehow let that slip away and needed a last second kick and a lot of luck to beat a bad ULM team. We have to execute better, manage games better, and do a better job of protecting the ball. I am not writing us off yet but we do need to make significant strides in the next 3 weeks in games that I feel we absolutely should win.

No, we didn't get the W. But, we managed the game well against Wyoming. Even if we miss the FG, the long, grinding drive (19 plays) and the clock management were really good and most likely would have notched the win. Yes, the execution on that play didn't happen, but for 58 minutes our coaches put us in a position to likely win and that game was managed well. Our defense played a superb game. (Wyoming has more yards and three times as many first downs in one half against #24 Fresno State) They found a way to win. It is what it is, but to say we haven't been impressive is off base.
We impressed the hell out of the Wyoming fan base. Leaving the stadium, their fans in unison acknowledged that they lucked into one and that we played really well.
We've also given a Top 15 North Carolina their only real competition.

I’m fine with the rest of your points, and I agree with many in varying degrees, BUT the only reason we wasted three time outs on that drive was because we didn’t have four. We couldn’t call in a play on that drive to save our lives.

So, I went back and looked at the 4th Q replay. On the first TO with 9:30 left on 3rd and 6, we are in formation with 12 seconds left. At 6 seconds, Joey steps up to the line of scrimmage to makes adjustments and as the play clock winds to zero, the sidelines call timeout. We then convert the 3rd down coming out of the TO.

On the second one (with 8 minutes left), we are again at the line of scrimmage with at least 10 seconds left (the broadcast is showing the crowd). Joey tries to move Nate in the backfield. Nate doesn't move, Joey tries again and the TO is called before the clock goes to zero.

My opinion is that on both of those plays, the play was in and the personnel were in place in plenty of time (unlike in previous seasons). We simply had an inexperienced QB (starting his 3rd FCS game) who was able to get 17 of 19 plays snapped just before the play clock wound down, but couldn't get it done on two plays due to late adjustments.

The third came with 2:06 left, on Horn's almost catch, trying to get a review. Again, I support the coaching staff on that one.

Clark may not be perfect, and we need to get that win, but the coaching and play calling were solid and the timeouts prevented penalties and kept the drive going.

[AppinVA]

My god the over use of the football transitive property in order to prove that we are not very good is getting ridiculous. Football is a crazy game. Sometimes you you win, sometimes you lose and sometimes your opponent plays well and sometimes games are tight. It happens.

One reason I don't subscribe to transitive property beyond direct proof is that teams can also improve and crazy things can happen like you said. I don't expect to be the same team in November that we were 2 weeks ago but I want to see how we look. I think the next 3 games will help tell us if we have a shot to be good or if we are likely in for another 6-6 or worse finish. Regardless if people are using scores or not I don't think it is unfair to say we have not been very impressive so far. Direct proof of that is we had Wyoming beat but somehow let that slip away and needed a last second kick and a lot of luck to beat a bad ULM team. We have to execute better, manage games better, and do a better job of protecting the ball. I am not writing us off yet but we do need to make significant strides in the next 3 weeks in games that I feel we absolutely should win.

No, we didn't get the W. But, we managed the game well against Wyoming. Even if we miss the FG, the long, grinding drive (19 plays) and the clock management were really good and most likely would have notched the win. Yes, the execution on that play didn't happen, but for 58 minutes our coaches put us in a position to likely win and that game was managed well. Our defense played a superb game. (Wyoming has more yards and three times as many first downs in one half against #24 Fresno State) They found a way to win. It is what it is, but to say we haven't been impressive is off base.
We impressed the hell out of the Wyoming fan base. Leaving the stadium, their fans in unison acknowledged that they lucked into one and that we played really well.
We've also given a Top 15 North Carolina their only real competition.

I’m fine with the rest of your points, and I agree with many in varying degrees, BUT the only reason we wasted three time outs on that drive was because we didn’t have four. We couldn’t call in a play on that drive to save our lives.

So, I went back and looked at the 4th Q replay. On the first TO with 9:30 left on 3rd and 6, we are in formation with 12 seconds left. At 6 seconds, Joey steps up to the line of scrimmage to makes adjustments and as the play clock winds to zero, the sidelines call timeout. We then convert the 3rd down coming out of the TO.

On the second one (with 8 minutes left), we are again at the line of scrimmage with at least 10 seconds left (the broadcast is showing the crowd). Joey tries to move Nate in the backfield. Nate doesn't move, Joey tries again and the TO is called before the clock goes to zero.

My opinion is that on both of those plays, the play was in and the personnel were in place in plenty of time (unlike in previous seasons). We simply had an inexperienced QB (starting his 3rd FCS game) who was able to get 17 of 19 plays snapped just before the play clock wound down, but couldn't get it done on two plays due to late adjustments.

The third came with 2:06 left, on Horn's almost catch, trying to get a review. Again, I support the coaching staff on that one.

Clark may not be perfect, and we need to get that win, but the coaching and play calling were solid and the timeouts prevented penalties and kept the drive going.

You’re either that bored or motivated. Im neither.

[Yosefus]

When do you fire your "chosen son" coach over one stupid move? Really, if a couple of you guys were ADs every school would be in trouble -

Just glad Cristobol is not our coach. I don't even think Clark would let something that stupid happen. Listened to College Sunday on XM while traveling for work this afternoon and those guys were even saying that is very close to a firing offense. They weren't calling for it or saying it would happen but a boned head decision someone with a multi million dollar plus salary shouldn't let happen. He will be a long time living that down.