Virginia Tech ---

[Saint3333]

You are correct nepotism is wrong. However hiring qualified individuals is not. I'm not in a position to state if Cobb or Moore showed favoritism, but you can cast stones if you'd like.

[kiddbrewer]

So let's say you're the girls tennis coach at, say, Rockingham County, and your assistant coach is the wife of the athletic director. Who really is in charge of the program? If the assistant coach is doing a poor job, do you really have the ability to make a change? What happens when the head coach and the assistant coach disagree on which lineup to use? What about equipment? Scheduling? Etc... This situation is rife with conflict.

Deleted post to protect the identity of those involved. My apologies to those involved.

[3rd]

Lot of the girls liked Mrs. Cobb...She did a good job of being there for the girls when some bad stuff happened with the head coaches first recruiting class.

[bcoach]

Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.

How long does a stop gap last?

[Dmanuhone]

just saying...

Cobb was a three-time first-team All-ACC goalkeeper for NC State from 1988-90.

During her four-year career with the Wolfpack, Cobb was in goal for the ACC championship team and helped lead the Wolfpack to a 65-21-7 record (.737) and a pair of NCAA Final Fours. She recorded 396 career saves and had a GAA of 1.09 and a save percentage of .852. Cobb was named Tournament MVP when NC State won the 1988 ACC championship after allowing one goal and recording 14 saves in 270 minutes. A year later, she was named to the NCAA Final Four's All-Tournament team after recording 15 saves in the semifinals against North Carolina. Currently, Cobb is ranked second all-time in ACC history with 396 career saves.

http://conferences-camps.appstate.edu/y ... mp/coaches

[Black Saturday]

He has ruffled some feathers in the Roanoke area. Despite his large salary, Coach Beamer makes several commercials for different companies. One has touched a sore spot. He recently shot an ad for an HCA hospital in Salem. That didn't set well with the largest health care provider in the region, Carilion Clinic. Tech's medical school based in Roanoke is a joint effort with Carilion. Seems many Carilion employees have beseiged Tech's AD about the ad and resulted in Tech's administration trying explain that Beamer's contract gives him the freedom to make such ads while restating their close ties to Carilion. I think the coach is beginning to wear thin on many folks up here, especially now that Tech has played so poorly this season.

Why didn't CC come to him first if it is such a big deal? What's wrong with CC shooting an ad too? I agree with VT on that.

[App74]

Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.

Many seem to miss the concept of your point. Hiring a qualified and professional individual is the objective. If that objective is ignored, then, yes, it is nepotism.

My partner and I have been in business for 24 years. There are four of his family that work for us. I want to hire two more.

[WVAPPeer]

Very good discussion between 78 and Saint and others - very informative without the name-calling - there is a gray area there and you guys have brought it to light - it can be a bad thing with a positive result, it can be a good thing in time of need, it can be bad- period --- very well stated positions!!! --- I'll rep you both ---

[NewApp]

Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.

It's hard to call hiring a son or wife anything other than nepotism.

Wrong.

In your opinion.

[Saint3333]

No I have used the word correctly by definition.

[kiddbrewer]

Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.

It's hard to call hiring a son or wife anything other than nepotism.

Wrong.

In your opinion.

The correct use of a word's definition is not an opinion.

[bigdaddyg]

I can't believe how much run this thread is getting. Amazing how much App fans care about VT. Just an observation.

[WVAPPeer]

I can't believe how much run this thread is getting. Amazing how much App fans care about VT. Just an observation.

In reality it is not about VT - it is about the hiring, firing and retiring of coaches ---

[NewApp]

Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.

You sugarcoat it anyway you like, Saint. It's still nepotism. App is 79-85-26 (.482 percent) during Cobb's 10-year career here. Not exactly a great return on investment.

The sugarcoating can go both ways, especially for the anti-Cobb group...just saying. I think the political circle calls it "spin".

With me, it has little to do with Cobb. It's the goose/gander thing.

[NewApp]

Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.

It's hard to call hiring a son or wife anything other than nepotism.

Wrong.

In your opinion.

The correct use of a word's definition is not an opinion.

One word: nitpicking. And another: semantics.

[bcoach]

Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.

You sugarcoat it anyway you like, Saint. It's still nepotism. App is 79-85-26 (.482 percent) during Cobb's 10-year career here. Not exactly a great return on investment.

The sugarcoating can go both ways, especially for the anti-Cobb group...just saying. I think the political circle calls it "spin".

With me, it has little to do with Cobb. It's the goose/gander thing.

That is my point. If it is good for one it is good for the other. I could not care less who the assistant soccer coach is. It should not matter how good they are. Is it a bad idea till the day the team starts to win then it becomes a good idea? Talent, experience, and record should have nothing to do with it. Hiring a relative should be a good idea or a bad idea period.

[NewApp]

No I have used the word correctly by definition.

Maybe so, but all the while dealing in rationalization...big time.