Could ACC be snubbed and SBC get in CFP?

[rbarthle17]

IF JMU can survive the first 5 minutes and prevent a fast start by Oregon, they can make a game of it for about a half. They have the defense to do that at least. But the minute it gets to two scores down, the wheels will come off I think. Same for Tulane, I don't think they are any threat to win but could keep it under the spread.

[AtlAppMan]

Which teams will get boat raced in the playoffs? Even if Tulane and JMU do, it won't be the first time teams get embarrassed.

Per Grok, games decided in CFP by more than 20 points,
Total CFP games analyzed: 41 in the 4-team era (10 seasons × 3 games/season) + 11 in 2024–25 = 52 games.
Largest margin: Georgia's 58-point win over TCU in the 2022–23 championship game
No quarterfinal or semifinal games in 2024–25 exceeded 20 points (Ohio State 41–21 over Oregon was exactly 20).

That's a lot of games that teams got spanked bad on the National stage. But at least they can say they were there.

[AppGrad78]

A football NIT will come along if bowls go away...there will be too much dead TV air to fill

Players will still opt out. With the portal window and players needing time to take visits, bowl games are pretty stupid now. The best thing to do is expand the playoff to 24 teams, give every conference an auto-bid, and begin the playoffs in early December and just space the title game 2 weeks after the semis or something.

Fine...

Lets hope JMU beasts Oregon so the P4 homers can shut up about "G5s can't compete".

Hate it but I agree. JMU has a better shot to beat Oregon than Tulane does Ole Miss. Both really need to win 1st round at least.

I do not believe both need to win. I think it would be good if one of them win and the other is close. It can be difficult to beat a team twice in one year, however, I feel like ole miss boat races tulane.
For JMU, their D has been really good. Will be interesting to see how they match up with a good power school. Personally, I do not believe their offense will be very productive. However, it is Oregon and who knows if their D is really that good. If JMU QB would take some heat off the slant passes, their offense would have been even more productive this year. They should have beat Troy by quite a bit more, however, he just puts too much heat on those passss. However, I believe they will struggle against Ducks D.

The key for JMU is its quarterback. Unfortunately, Alonza Barnett isn’t consistently good enough to keep the Dukes in a game against at team like Oregon.

[JTApps1]

Maybe FBS should embrace the FCS playoff model if bowls are going to continue to diminish. Go to 24 teams with each P4 getting their top two schools in, and each G6 getting their top team. The remaining slots go to the highest ranked teams not already in. This year it would result in 7 SEC, 4 B1G, 4 Big 12, 2 ACC and one from each G6. The P4 get more teams than they currently do, and no conference is left out. ND gets their holier than though butts in, and the G6's get a seat at the table. Get rid of conference championship games and have the first round on Thanksgiving Weekend. Play weekly, except the week of Christmas, which gives two weeks to prepare for the National Championship game.

[AppWyo]

Maybe FBS should embrace the FCS playoff model if bowls are going to continue to diminish. Go to 24 teams with each P4 getting their top two schools in, and each G6 getting their top team. The remaining slots go to the highest ranked teams not already in. This year it would result in 7 SEC, 4 B1G, 4 Big 12, 2 ACC and one from each G6. The P4 get more teams than they currently do, and no conference is left out. ND gets their holier than though butts in, and the G6's get a seat at the table. Get rid of conference championship games and have the first round on Thanksgiving Weekend. Play weekly, except the week of Christmas, which gives two weeks to prepare for the National Championship game.

Conference championship games make too much money to abandon.

[JTApps1]

Maybe FBS should embrace the FCS playoff model if bowls are going to continue to diminish. Go to 24 teams with each P4 getting their top two schools in, and each G6 getting their top team. The remaining slots go to the highest ranked teams not already in. This year it would result in 7 SEC, 4 B1G, 4 Big 12, 2 ACC and one from each G6. The P4 get more teams than they currently do, and no conference is left out. ND gets their holier than though butts in, and the G6's get a seat at the table. Get rid of conference championship games and have the first round on Thanksgiving Weekend. Play weekly, except the week of Christmas, which gives two weeks to prepare for the National Championship game.

Conference championship games make too much money to abandon.

I think that would be offset by additional CFP games and associated TV revenue.

[bcoach]

I have to laugh when folks dish on ND for not joining a confrence. All we talk about is how to get more money but folks expect ND to give up a bunch. There is not one person in the country who would be good with their team having to give up money for any reason at all.
As far as them not accepting a bowl bid I don't understand the problem.

[TheMoody1]

https://caneswarning.com/acc-commission ... oses-miami

[Bootsy]

I could live with the fact that ND decided to decline a bowl bid. But when I learned the bid was for the Pop-Tarts Bowl, I lost my mind.

Name for me one, just one, stronger symbol of American hegemony and the blessings of capitalism than Pop-Tarts? I’ll wait.

In my book, the Irish are floating dangerously close to Communist leanings. They had better watch their step up there.

[AtlAppMan]

I have to laugh when folks dish on ND for not joining a confrence. All we talk about is how to get more money but folks expect ND to give up a bunch. There is not one person in the country who would be good with their team having to give up money for any reason at all.
As far as them not accepting a bowl bid I don't understand the problem.

I did not Dish ND for getting their independent TV deal. I said they want their cake and eat it too. That’s not the same.

They want the TV deal solo AND get special treatment in CFP with the money that goes along with it.

[spacemonkey]

They should be mad that Alabama got in...not Miami. Alabama had three losses. By the way...i agree with the CFP......i thought they nailed the selections.

[AtlAppMan]

They should be mad that Alabama got in...not Miami. Alabama had three losses. By the way...i agree with the CFP......i thought they nailed the selections.

Agree and as a neutral observer, Miami and ND had basically equal resumes, W/L, SoS, other comparable stats, BUT Miami won the head to head game. By any standard the head to head always is the deciding factor. I can’t believe ND is even trying to make the .

[bcoach]

I have to laugh when folks dish on ND for not joining a confrence. All we talk about is how to get more money but folks expect ND to give up a bunch. There is not one person in the country who would be good with their team having to give up money for any reason at all.
As far as them not accepting a bowl bid I don't understand the problem.

I did not Dish ND for getting their independent TV deal. I said they want their cake and eat it too. That’s not the same.

They want the TV deal solo AND get special treatment in CFP with the money that goes along with it.

I was not directing my comment to you. Thousands of folks have said the same thing. But to answer you why should they not do that? We would if we could. Anyone would. They bring the eyeballs like nobodyn else. Again every team in America would trade places with them in a heartbeat.

[AppStFan1]

I have to laugh when folks dish on ND for not joining a confrence. All we talk about is how to get more money but folks expect ND to give up a bunch. There is not one person in the country who would be good with their team having to give up money for any reason at all.
As far as them not accepting a bowl bid I don't understand the problem.

I did not Dish ND for getting their independent TV deal. I said they want their cake and eat it too. That’s not the same.

They want the TV deal solo AND get special treatment in CFP with the money that goes along with it.

I was not directing my comment to you. Thousands of folks have said the same thing. But to answer you why should they not do that? We would if we could. Anyone would. They bring the eyeballs like nobodyn else. Again every team in America would trade places with them in a heartbeat.

Which is why I think the ACC should have used the leverage in 2020 and told ND they have to join the league because of the money they bring. ND made out great not having to. I don't blame ND at all but I also don't think it is fair for them to get mad when the ACC pushed Miami over them. Miami is all in while they are not. ND has more than made enough money to counter what they are not making by not being in the CFP this year. They are in a great position and I can understand why they want to stay independent.

[Bigdaddyg1]

ND chose not to be a football member of the ACC. Had they done it they lose the NBC deal- no brainer there. Had they formally joined more than likely they would have been the champions this season, the ACC would be the 4th rated conference and they would be in the playoffs. To bash the commissioner and the league for not stumping for them is ridiculous.

The debate over whether early season wins/losses are as important as end of season is asinine to me. I can see it in basketball (maybe) but not football. It’s like the folks who think certain penalties or fouls should not be called late in games but they are fine early. Wins and losses count all year. Bottom line with ND- don’t lose the toughest games on your schedule!

[hapapp]

They should be mad that Alabama got in...not Miami. Alabama had three losses. By the way...i agree with the CFP......i thought they nailed the selections.

Agree and as a neutral observer, Miami and ND had basically equal resumes, W/L, SoS, other comparable stats, BUT Miami won the head to head game. By any standard the head to head always is the deciding factor. I can’t believe ND is even trying to make the .

Not a ND fan at all but what changed in a week? Without either team playing Miami jumped ND.

[BambooRdApp]

They should be mad that Alabama got in...not Miami. Alabama had three losses. By the way...i agree with the CFP......i thought they nailed the selections.

Agree and as a neutral observer, Miami and ND had basically equal resumes, W/L, SoS, other comparable stats, BUT Miami won the head to head game. By any standard the head to head always is the deciding factor. I can’t believe ND is even trying to make the .

Not a ND fan at all but what changed in a week? Without either team playing Miami jumped ND.

Agree on this. I am not a fan of ND or The U... however, the flip, when neither played, was strange to me.

[JTApps1]

They should be mad that Alabama got in...not Miami. Alabama had three losses. By the way...i agree with the CFP......i thought they nailed the selections.

Agree and as a neutral observer, Miami and ND had basically equal resumes, W/L, SoS, other comparable stats, BUT Miami won the head to head game. By any standard the head to head always is the deciding factor. I can’t believe ND is even trying to make the .

Not a ND fan at all but what changed in a week? Without either team playing Miami jumped ND.

The committee should have had Miami ahead to begin with to avoid some of this mess. Making the switch shows they did it to throw a bone to the ACC. Maybe that isn't right, but ND gets more special treatment than anyone in CFB. It's hard to feel sorry for them when they don't.

[AppDawg]

Maybe FBS should embrace the FCS playoff model if bowls are going to continue to diminish. Go to 24 teams with each P4 getting their top two schools in, and each G6 getting their top team. The remaining slots go to the highest ranked teams not already in. This year it would result in 7 SEC, 4 B1G, 4 Big 12, 2 ACC and one from each G6. The P4 get more teams than they currently do, and no conference is left out. ND gets their holier than though butts in, and the G6's get a seat at the table. Get rid of conference championship games and have the first round on Thanksgiving Weekend. Play weekly, except the week of Christmas, which gives two weeks to prepare for the National Championship game.

Conference championship games make too much money to abandon.

I have always said CCG’s should be Round #1 of playoffs. If you ain’t good enough to win your own conference, you ain’t good enough to be National Champion.

[AppWyo]

Maybe FBS should embrace the FCS playoff model if bowls are going to continue to diminish. Go to 24 teams with each P4 getting their top two schools in, and each G6 getting their top team. The remaining slots go to the highest ranked teams not already in. This year it would result in 7 SEC, 4 B1G, 4 Big 12, 2 ACC and one from each G6. The P4 get more teams than they currently do, and no conference is left out. ND gets their holier than though butts in, and the G6's get a seat at the table. Get rid of conference championship games and have the first round on Thanksgiving Weekend. Play weekly, except the week of Christmas, which gives two weeks to prepare for the National Championship game.

Conference championship games make too much money to abandon.

I have always said CCG’s should be Round #1 of playoffs. If you ain’t good enough to win your own conference, you ain’t good enough to be National Champion.

Winning your conference championship game should count as your automatic qualifier.