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Unread post by WataugaMan » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:07 pm

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WataugaMan wrote:Nepotism? Now where have I seen this before?

Not just Jerry and little Jerry but when Cobb hired his wife as soccer coach. :(
Little Mo you mean.

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Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:15 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
NewApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:Nepotism? Now where have I seen this before?

Not just Jerry and little Jerry but when Cobb hired his wife as soccer coach. :(
Little Mo you mean.

I shall call him...Mini Mo.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:15 pm

Cobbs wife was paid 18k to be an asst. coach. Really set up the family with that sweetheart deal.

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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:16 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
NewApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:Nepotism? Now where have I seen this before?

Not just Jerry and little Jerry but when Cobb hired his wife as soccer coach. :(
Little Mo you mean.
I said what I meant.
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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:16 pm

Saint3333 wrote:Cobbs wife was paid 18k to be an asst. coach. Really set up the family with that sweetheart deal.
Regardless she was hired by her husband. Nepotism is nepotism.
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Unread post by WataugaMan » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:27 pm

NewApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:
NewApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:Nepotism? Now where have I seen this before?

Not just Jerry and little Jerry but when Cobb hired his wife as soccer coach. :(
Little Mo you mean.
I said what I meant.
Okay

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:29 pm

Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.

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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:33 pm

Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.
Yep. But still nepotism.
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:34 pm

It's like talking to a wall.

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Unread post by AppGrad78 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:46 pm

Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.
You sugarcoat it anyway you like, Saint. It's still nepotism. App is 79-85-26 (.482 percent) during Cobb's 10-year career here. Not exactly a great return on investment.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:57 pm

Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.

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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:01 pm

Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.

It's hard to call hiring a son or wife anything other than nepotism.
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Unread post by kiddbrewer » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:07 pm

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Saint3333 wrote:Cobbs wife was paid 18k to be an asst. coach. Really set up the family with that sweetheart deal.
Regardless she was hired by her husband. Nepotism is nepotism.
The word favoritism pops up when the word nepotism is looked up on dictionary.com.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nepotism?s=t

If she was specifically chosen because she was the wife of the AD, then yeah, nepotism applies. If she was the most qualified person for that position, then nepotism doesn't apply. I'm not well connected, so I don't know one way or the other. I doubt others on here are connected enough to know, but I could be wrong.

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Unread post by kiddbrewer » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:08 pm

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Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a qualified and professional individual and paying them less than market as a stop gap seems to be good business.
You sugarcoat it anyway you like, Saint. It's still nepotism. App is 79-85-26 (.482 percent) during Cobb's 10-year career here. Not exactly a great return on investment.
The sugarcoating can go both ways, especially for the anti-Cobb group...just saying. I think the political circle calls it "spin".

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:11 pm

NewApp wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.

It's hard to call hiring a son or wife anything other than nepotism.
Wrong.

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Unread post by AppGrad78 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:14 pm

Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.
By the way, Lindsay Cobb's job status changed last year when she was promoted from volunteer assistant coach to assistant coach. Consequently, she makes significantly more than the figure you quoted. Relatives working for relatives at a major public institution is never a good idea.

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Unread post by kiddbrewer » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:26 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.
By the way, Lindsay Cobb's job status changed last year when she was promoted from volunteer assistant coach to assistant coach. Consequently, she makes significantly more than the figure you quoted. Relatives working for relatives at a major public institution is never a good idea.
I can buy that argument better than the previous one you put up.

But, I can't imagine Cobb not going through Peacock to get approval on that hire. I would also imagine Peacock making sure there were no improprieties associated with the hire. To me, no story here.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:28 pm

Great point there are clear policies when hiring state employees, but that doesn't fit the continued anti Cobb narrative these two love to stir up.

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Unread post by AppGrad78 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:45 pm

kiddbrewer wrote:
AppGrad78 wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:Hiring a relative is not always nepotism. It is only nepotism if one is chosen over another that is more qualified. Unless you have the name(s) and resumes of others that were putting in for this 18k a year job you are speculating.

You guys are acting like she was given a job she wasn't qualified for or paid above market.

78 go fire the field hockey coach, golf coach, etc. if you're concerned about ROI.
By the way, Lindsay Cobb's job status changed last year when she was promoted from volunteer assistant coach to assistant coach. Consequently, she makes significantly more than the figure you quoted. Relatives working for relatives at a major public institution is never a good idea.
I can buy that argument better than the previous one you put up.


But, I can't imagine Cobb not going through Peacock to get approval on that hire. I would also imagine Peacock making sure there were no improprieties associated with the hire. To me, no story here.
So let's say you're the girls tennis coach at, say, Rockingham County, and your assistant coach is the wife of the athletic director. Who really is in charge of the program? If the assistant coach is doing a poor job, do you really have the ability to make a change? What happens when the head coach and the assistant coach disagree on which lineup to use? What about equipment? Scheduling? Etc... This situation is rife with conflict.

And, Saint, this has got nothing to do with anti-Cobb sentiment. Nepotism is wrong. It was wrong when Jerry Moore hired his son. It was wrong when Charlie Cobb hired his wife. It'll be wrong if and when Chancellor Everts puts her husband on the books at ASU.
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Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:47 pm

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