12 team playoff

[AppWyo]

It starts this weekend and I’m pulling hard for Dabo and Clemson. Until some reasonable rules are in place I think Dabo’s stance on the portal has been the best way to manage the current madness. If more coaches would follow his lead the situation would be much better. The university’s really have much more power over this whole situation than they are exercising. As another poster pointed out in another thread, the university’s have the brand. As the other poster pointed out if a semi pro team called the Western NC Elks played this weekend in KBS the place would be pretty much empty. The fans come to see the App State Mountaineers and the Clemson Tigers.

I think he knows he can’t compete with the big dogs doing it the “old school” way. He’s taken 2 portal kids already! Times are changing, even Dabo is portaling. Wonder if he’s paying NIL since he was so adamately against it.

What I saw Dabo talk about was that he wanted to recruit and develop players out of high school, team building. There have always been transfers but I like his focus on player development and wish him success. As for NIL, no coach or anyone else at a university should really be involved with NIL. Pretty sure it would be a violation of the current rules for Dabo to pay NIL. That said it would be next to impossible to think Clemson would still have a team without a bunch of NIL money going to players.

Actually, NIL goes on at Clemson too, it is just under the table. Just like it does in the SEC. This is addressed in Loggains most recent interview.

[appbanker]

It starts this weekend and I’m pulling hard for Dabo and Clemson. Until some reasonable rules are in place I think Dabo’s stance on the portal has been the best way to manage the current madness. If more coaches would follow his lead the situation would be much better. The university’s really have much more power over this whole situation than they are exercising. As another poster pointed out in another thread, the university’s have the brand. As the other poster pointed out if a semi pro team called the Western NC Elks played this weekend in KBS the place would be pretty much empty. The fans come to see the App State Mountaineers and the Clemson Tigers.

I think he knows he can’t compete with the big dogs doing it the “old school” way. He’s taken 2 portal kids already! Times are changing, even Dabo is portaling. Wonder if he’s paying NIL since he was so adamately against it.

What I saw Dabo talk about was that he wanted to recruit and develop players out of high school, team building. There have always been transfers but I like his focus on player development and wish him success. As for NIL, no coach or anyone else at a university should really be involved with NIL. Pretty sure it would be a violation of the current rules for Dabo to pay NIL. That said it would be next to impossible to think Clemson would still have a team without a bunch of NIL money going to players.

IPTAY - I Pay The Athletes Yall

[GreatAppSt]

Well the FBS is getting it's first taste of having a real (at least as real as allowed) playoff and the intensity that leads too. The interest of the fans of the few involved contenders are finding out the fever pitch of the win or go home games. The pressure of knowing that the eyes of the entire league are watching.

Here in Indianapolis the back and forth this week between the Domers to the North and Whoosiers To the South has become quite intense. I'm betting the Nielsen ratings generated this year will lead the charge to a 16 team playoff with no byes just home field for ranked teams like in FCS.

[311neers]

Not a good look for G5 with Tulane getting destroyed by Florida. Quite a bad last 2 games by the Green Wave. The talent gap is just too much, even with a middle of the road SEC team. Although Florida was pretty hot to end the year.

[Mjohn1988]

It starts this weekend and I’m pulling hard for Dabo and Clemson. Until some reasonable rules are in place I think Dabo’s stance on the portal has been the best way to manage the current madness. If more coaches would follow his lead the situation would be much better. The university’s really have much more power over this whole situation than they are exercising. As another poster pointed out in another thread, the university’s have the brand. As the other poster pointed out if a semi pro team called the Western NC Elks played this weekend in KBS the place would be pretty much empty. The fans come to see the App State Mountaineers and the Clemson Tigers.

I think he knows he can’t compete with the big dogs doing it the “old school” way. He’s taken 2 portal kids already! Times are changing, even Dabo is portaling. Wonder if he’s paying NIL since he was so adamately against it.

What I saw Dabo talk about was that he wanted to recruit and develop players out of high school, team building. There have always been transfers but I like his focus on player development and wish him success. As for NIL, no coach or anyone else at a university should really be involved with NIL. Pretty sure it would be a violation of the current rules for Dabo to pay NIL. That said it would be next to impossible to think Clemson would still have a team without a bunch of NIL money going to players.

Actually, NIL goes on at Clemson too, it is just under the table. Just like it does in the SEC. This is addressed in Loggains most recent interview.

Not sure I follow you. NIL goes on at every FBS school and there is no need for it to be under the table. Are you saying University funds are being used as NIL money?

[311neers]

Do we stop scheduling difficult OOC games to better our chances to make the playoffs? (Yes, I know, playoffs!? Just win 6 games first). Indiana and others somehow avoided difficult games and might be getting exposed because of it. But, they made the dance.

I like big games, the Boise’s, the South Carolina’s the Unc’s. It’s fun travel for the kids and fans. But, it’s risky, lose and you’re most likely done. P4’s probably will avoid big games too as the committee doesn’t seem to care about SOS.

What say you?

[AppWyo]

It starts this weekend and I’m pulling hard for Dabo and Clemson. Until some reasonable rules are in place I think Dabo’s stance on the portal has been the best way to manage the current madness. If more coaches would follow his lead the situation would be much better. The university’s really have much more power over this whole situation than they are exercising. As another poster pointed out in another thread, the university’s have the brand. As the other poster pointed out if a semi pro team called the Western NC Elks played this weekend in KBS the place would be pretty much empty. The fans come to see the App State Mountaineers and the Clemson Tigers.

I think he knows he can’t compete with the big dogs doing it the “old school” way. He’s taken 2 portal kids already! Times are changing, even Dabo is portaling. Wonder if he’s paying NIL since he was so adamately against it.

What I saw Dabo talk about was that he wanted to recruit and develop players out of high school, team building. There have always been transfers but I like his focus on player development and wish him success. As for NIL, no coach or anyone else at a university should really be involved with NIL. Pretty sure it would be a violation of the current rules for Dabo to pay NIL. That said it would be next to impossible to think Clemson would still have a team without a bunch of NIL money going to players.

Actually, NIL goes on at Clemson too, it is just under the table. Just like it does in the SEC. This is addressed in Loggains most recent interview.

Not sure I follow you. NIL goes on at every FBS school and there is no need for it to be under the table. Are you saying University funds are being used as NIL money?

If you watch the interview of Dowell Loggains with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks around 13:20 Loggains mentions NIL and the SEC and he says the SEC NIL is real they just do it publicly now. That is the reference to my comment. He just seems to tell things like they really are. That is commendable in my opinion. Most people who say things that you agree with you usually like. I also like him talking about SEC teams tampering with your roster. He seems like one of the most honest people in his interviews that I have seen in a long time. He seems "Big Time."

[Bigdaddyg1]

I hope I’m wrong but I firmly believe that the highest rated G5 spot is going away. The big boys will scream too loudly after this season and the CFP will simply be the top 12 teams with the highest rated 4 getting a bye. The only issue the NFL has with playoff seeding is to give a crappy division winner a bye and a home game often against a team who had three less losses.

So that will also lend to the debate about scheduling. Would a 13-0 App team who, say beat 4 FCS teams in non play, ran the Belt and won the conference championship get rated 12th (being extreme with those 4 games)? I would expect that any G5 who can climb to 12th would absolutely have to go unbeaten and would need to play and beat at least a 7-5 power school and probably a good G5 peer. The next question will be, do any good power schools want to schedule a strong G5? Ultimately I don’t see that they need to.

[Mjohn1988]

I think he knows he can’t compete with the big dogs doing it the “old school” way. He’s taken 2 portal kids already! Times are changing, even Dabo is portaling. Wonder if he’s paying NIL since he was so adamately against it.

What I saw Dabo talk about was that he wanted to recruit and develop players out of high school, team building. There have always been transfers but I like his focus on player development and wish him success. As for NIL, no coach or anyone else at a university should really be involved with NIL. Pretty sure it would be a violation of the current rules for Dabo to pay NIL. That said it would be next to impossible to think Clemson would still have a team without a bunch of NIL money going to players.

Actually, NIL goes on at Clemson too, it is just under the table. Just like it does in the SEC. This is addressed in Loggains most recent interview.

Not sure I follow you. NIL goes on at every FBS school and there is no need for it to be under the table. Are you saying University funds are being used as NIL money?

If you watch the interview of Dowell Loggains with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks around 13:20 Loggains mentions NIL and the SEC and he says the SEC NIL is real they just do it publicly now. That is the reference to my comment. He just seems to tell things like they really are. That is commendable in my opinion. Most people who say things that you agree with you usually like. I also like him talking about SEC teams tampering with your roster. He seems like one of the most honest people in his interviews that I have seen in a long time. He seems "Big Time."

So he’s just saying what most folk already knew. Guys at the bid boy schools got paid before the NIL ruling.

[Mjohn1988]

While watching the game last night it looked obvious to me that the power brokers in college football know the image of the sport is taking a beating and they are trying to harken back to the “good old days”.

[BallantyneApp]

I hope I’m wrong but I firmly believe that the highest rated G5 spot is going away. The big boys will scream too loudly after this season and the CFP will simply be the top 12 teams with the highest rated 4 getting a bye. The only issue the NFL has with playoff seeding is to give a crappy division winner a bye and a home game often against a team who had three less losses.

So that will also lend to the debate about scheduling. Would a 13-0 App team who, say beat 4 FCS teams in non play, ran the Belt and won the conference championship get rated 12th (being extreme with those 4 games)? I would expect that any G5 who can climb to 12th would absolutely have to go unbeaten and would need to play and beat at least a 7-5 power school and probably a good G5 peer. The next question will be, do any good power schools want to schedule a strong G5? Ultimately I don’t see that they need to.

Nah the big boys will have to give us a seat or risk an anti trust lawsuit.

[BambooRdApp]

First round confirming what we already know...ACC is bad

[appdaze]

And just shows the evolving gap between big10/sec and everyone else. Clemson and SMU are solid college teams. Not great or dominant, but solid.

[Saint3333]

Interesting history of changes in CFB:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/w ... 1769539642

[AppDawg]

I agree, Boise St. and AZ St. getting byes is going to piss off the real powers, SEC and Big10. The ACC and Big12 are pretend powers going forward and will do whatever the P2 mandate.

The auto top 4 seeds for winning your conference was about as dumb of a rule as I've ever seen. You just knew we were going to end up with a borderline top 25 team snagging a 3 or 4 seed (and a 12 seed in this case). Hoping they change that rule going forward and just re-rank the top 12 teams. If you win your p4 conference, you get a seat in the top 12, but not the top 4. Also, the 1 seed has a tougher slate than the 5 seed even though the 1 seed just beat the 5 seed. It's all screwed up haha.

I vehemently disagree with this. Especially as a G5 team. You take this Top 4 conference champs away from Top 4 seeds and the G5 token will ALWAYS be the 12th seed plus the regular season will take on less of a “meaning”.

In my opinion having the Champions of the Top 4 rated Conferences getting a Bye was genius.

If this structure was in place just a few years ago, the SBC could’ve been one of the top 4.

[RankinApp]

All four of the first round games have been snoozers. I'm not holding out much hope that Arizona State and Boise State are going to hang next week.

Even with more teams it's still basically the SEC/BIG 10 Invitational. I'm so ready for the semi-pro teams to break away from the NCAA and let the rest of us get back to college football.

[BeauFoster]

The CFB playoff isn’t really any different than the FCS playoff, in terms of competitiveness. It’s all the same teams dominating and winning. The games may be a little closer in FCS, but this is one round in the first year of the CFBP-who knows what will happen in the next few weeks?

[Mjohn1988]

Watched South Dakota and Montana State yesterday, gota say I enjoyed the game. They had a heck of a game day environment in Bozeman.

[AppWyo]

The CFB playoff isn’t really any different than the FCS playoff, in terms of competitiveness. It’s all the same teams dominating and winning. The games may be a little closer in FCS, but this is one round in the first year of the CFBP-who knows what will happen in the next few weeks?

The coolest thing about the FCS playoff was always the matchups of teams from around the country that would not normally play each other. We are now seeing those same matchups with the CFP. Teams that have never played each other are playing each other or ones that do not play each other often. How many times did we play Eastern Washington back in those days? Had Bosie State stayed in the FCS we would have seen them more than just once. It has been 30 years since our last and only meeting.

https://www.winsipedia.com/appalachian- ... oise-state

...and we only lost by three...

[Saint3333]

Western teams dominate now as predicted with all of the FBS move ups from the east.