Va Tech fires football head coach

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:28 pm

Personally, I do not see McCall getting drafted. Time will tell.
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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

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Perhaps Chadwell gets the job and McCall goes with him.
Buzz around Conway is that McCall is either hitting the portal and following Chadwell, if Chadwell gets a job, or he will declare early for the NFL Draft. A lot of fear down in Conway that because of the injury they may have seen the last of McCall in a CCU uniform.
Declare for the draft? This is comedy hour.
Why do you say that? McCall would get drafted for sure. Clifton Duck declared and that was comedy because he had no shot. McCall on other hand likely goes 3rd round at the very least. He has a good arm, very accurate, and the game last weekend clearly showed that it’s his talent and not just the system. He might return but many around Conway believe there is a real legit shot he is gone after this year.

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by TomA415 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:35 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:22 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:05 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:27 pm
brianowen wrote:
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Perhaps Chadwell gets the job and McCall goes with him.
Buzz around Conway is that McCall is either hitting the portal and following Chadwell, if Chadwell gets a job, or he will declare early for the NFL Draft. A lot of fear down in Conway that because of the injury they may have seen the last of McCall in a CCU uniform.
Declare for the draft? This is comedy hour.
Why do you say that? McCall would get drafted for sure. Clifton Duck declared and that was comedy because he had no shot. McCall on other hand likely goes 3rd round at the very least. He has a good arm, very accurate, and the game last weekend clearly showed that it’s his talent and not just the system. He might return but many around Conway believe there is a real legit shot he is gone after this year.
This. I realize we’re all biased here but McCall is getting drafted regardless of which year he’s comes out.

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by AppinVA » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:08 pm

TomA415 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:35 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:22 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:05 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:27 pm
brianowen wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:40 pm
Perhaps Chadwell gets the job and McCall goes with him.
Buzz around Conway is that McCall is either hitting the portal and following Chadwell, if Chadwell gets a job, or he will declare early for the NFL Draft. A lot of fear down in Conway that because of the injury they may have seen the last of McCall in a CCU uniform.
Declare for the draft? This is comedy hour.
Why do you say that? McCall would get drafted for sure. Clifton Duck declared and that was comedy because he had no shot. McCall on other hand likely goes 3rd round at the very least. He has a good arm, very accurate, and the game last weekend clearly showed that it’s his talent and not just the system. He might return but many around Conway believe there is a real legit shot he is gone after this year.
This. I realize we’re all biased here but McCall is getting drafted regardless of which year he’s comes out.
Isn’t he only a sophomore?
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Unread post by goapps93 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:12 pm

Redshirt sophomore. Will have been out of high school 3 years so he's good to go to draft.
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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by kornegaylw » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:23 pm

VT is not going to want somebody with character questions like Chadwell and Napier has said he doesn't want to step into a dumpster fire so I have a feeling it could be someone else....maybe the Utah State coach

I say this because I spoke to a VT fan this morning

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Unread post by hapapp » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:32 am

I'd be shocked if they took Anderson. The Tech job is not a dumpster fire. They can pay and have a great fanbase. Not saying Napier is interested but it wouldn't take much to turn things around in Blacksburg.

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Chad well and The U seem like a match made in heaven..lol
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Unread post by Yosef84 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:11 am

Just my opinion, but I don't see VT as a "dumpster fire." Yeah, they've definitely declined and settled into mediocrity, but they don't have compliance issues and they have a ton of history and tradition around football. For a guy like Napier who has skills at building, this could be a really attractive opportunity. He isn't following a legend, expectations would be somewhat tempered, and tons of resources.

I agree that Chadwell isn't likely in serious consideration. If he had issues that made South Carolina decline, I just don't see VT going for it. The Hokies will have plenty of options without bringing all that baggage in.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:49 am

I also don't think Tech is a dumpster fire - they have all the aspects there to be really good again - great fans, evidently plenty of money, middle of strong recruiting areas, in a division they can win, etc. - VT has lost way too many outstanding high school players to out-of-state programs - wasn't HapApp who had their local super RB go to Ohio State? - VT's roster used to full of kids from Tidewater but very few now. The next coach doesn't have to follow a legend - I think it will create a huge swath of interest to proven head coaches -
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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by asu66 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:18 am

TomA415 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:35 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:22 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:05 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:27 pm
brianowen wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:40 pm
Perhaps Chadwell gets the job and McCall goes with him.
Buzz around Conway is that McCall is either hitting the portal and following Chadwell, if Chadwell gets a job, or he will declare early for the NFL Draft. A lot of fear down in Conway that because of the injury they may have seen the last of McCall in a CCU uniform.
McCall's draft prospects are hanging in the balance. Those prospects depend on whether he has a real injury or if the "injury" is just a Chadwell ruse to get him to the portal in fit condition and fine health. If the injury is real and serious, the kid's future is clouded with "?"

Declare for the draft? This is comedy hour.
Why do you say that? McCall would get drafted for sure. Clifton Duck declared and that was comedy because he had no shot. McCall on other hand likely goes 3rd round at the very least. He has a good arm, very accurate, and the game last weekend clearly showed that it’s his talent and not just the system. He might return but many around Conway believe there is a real legit shot he is gone after this year.
This. I realize we’re all biased here but McCall is getting drafted regardless of which year he’s comes out.
Pro scouts do not chase damaged goods very often. Is McCall's "injury" real and serious or just another ruse from Chadwell's little black bag of dirty tricks? If it's real and serious, then the kid's college/pro football future is clouded by lots of "?" marks. If it's a complete ruse, the kid will have made himself complicit in a serious lie. He'll play forever looking over his shoulder for the whistleblower!
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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:22 am

McCall has Bursitis in his throwing shoulder.

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:39 am

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Personally, I do not see McCall getting drafted. Time will tell.
What do you see in his game that would say he does not get drafted? I think most expect he would be a top 100 pick.

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by hapapp » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:08 pm

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I also don't think Tech is a dumpster fire - they have all the aspects there to be really good again - great fans, evidently plenty of money, middle of strong recruiting areas, in a division they can win, etc. - VT has lost way too many outstanding high school players to out-of-state programs - wasn't HapApp who had their local super RB go to Ohio State? - VT's roster used to full of kids from Tidewater but very few now. The next coach doesn't have to follow a legend - I think it will create a huge swath of interest to proven head coaches -
Henderson is actually from Hopewell (my hometown) in the Richmond area. But, I'm not sure he even gave them much thought but given Tech in the Beamer years I think things might have been different. Though, the kid is a super athlete who had lots of big time options. He almost single-handedly destroyed Lord Botetourt in the state title game. Three players off that LB team are Apps now.

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

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Personally, I do not see McCall getting drafted. Time will tell.
What do you see in his game that would say he does not get drafted? I think most expect he would be a top 100 pick.
It is just my opinion, I just do not believe in his overall arm strength for tight windows in NFL in the middle of the field. In addition, I do not believe he is that accurate on the long ball. Is he completing them against SBC competition, yes...but pro DBs do not get beat like SBC DBs where there is distinct separation in SBC. I also do not believe he will have the opportunities to run like he does now. An all-pro DL or LB will get to him in my opinion. If true, I also believe the bursitis may make some teams hesitate. He does seem to make reads and go through progression and has been accurate down sideline if not technically a back shoulder pass. He was good against us this year. However, he was pedestrian against us passing last year and against BYU last year. Drafting is a crazy business. What was Tom Brady...6th round and Ryan Leaf a top 5 pick.
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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:38 pm

The only thing that will keep McCall from a quality NFL career is an injury. Otherwise, he’s got all the necessary tools.

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Unread post by mike87 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:04 pm

The only team with a winning record that McCall played was App. Got a 'L' there. I hate to punch down like this because the same could be said of our schedule but when you play inferior competition it's pretty easy to look good. I think he's a really good Sunbelt quarterback. But so is Brice, and so was Zac and Taylor. Don't hear any on this board so very certain that our 'really good Sunbelt quarterbacks' would be a lock at the next level.

If he can do it, good for him. But a lock, c'mon.

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by asu66 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:20 pm

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McCall has Bursitis in his throwing shoulder.
I know but I also know his coach. I try to tell myself that his coach wouldn't throw his team and his employer under the bus for the last three games of the season for his own personal gain. Surely, even Chadwell wouldn't stoop that low. Then again...
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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

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asu66 wrote:
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McCall has Bursitis in his throwing shoulder.
I know but I also know his coach. I try to tell myself that his coach wouldn't throw his team and his employer under the bus for the last three games of the season for his own personal gain. Surely, even Chadwell wouldn't stoop that low. Then again...
I get that he has been around some shady stuff. I just don’t think that he is capable of what you are suggesting. Not everyone is going to like you, I get that. But here is my rationale. Moglia created a culture that benefited these kids past football through mentorships and networking skills. He handpicked Chadwell to groom. I have a hard time getting to the point that Chadwell is killing the culture that his mentor built, and is still there. If he was f’ing it up, Moglia would write the check to get him out before he killed his legacy.

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Re: Va Tech fires football head coach

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:06 pm

Tbatchelor1977 wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:21 pm
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Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:39 am
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Personally, I do not see McCall getting drafted. Time will tell.
What do you see in his game that would say he does not get drafted? I think most expect he would be a top 100 pick.
It is just my opinion, I just do not believe in his overall arm strength for tight windows in NFL in the middle of the field. In addition, I do not believe he is that accurate on the long ball. Is he completing them against SBC competition, yes...but pro DBs do not get beat like SBC DBs where there is distinct separation in SBC. I also do not believe he will have the opportunities to run like he does now. An all-pro DL or LB will get to him in my opinion. If true, I also believe the bursitis may make some teams hesitate. He does seem to make reads and go through progression and has been accurate down sideline if not technically a back shoulder pass. He was good against us this year. However, he was pedestrian against us passing last year and against BYU last year. Drafting is a crazy business. What was Tom Brady...6th round and Ryan Leaf a top 5 pick.
You have to remember that QBs get drawn up the board because of need. Many CCU people think he is a 1st round pick and I don't see that but I also don't think there is any way he would not get drafted. I have seen him make a few very good deep ball throws so the ability is there.

If our game is the only game you have seen outside of BYU and App in 2020 then watch the clips below. I agree he does not have the biggest arm but it is good enough to get drafted. Some of your complaints he has shown but he also shows he can throw it in tight windows and makes some good deep ball throws.

Here are his 2020 highlights:


Watch his throw against us at the 18 second mark of the clip to see him drop it in a tight window:


I personally think he should come back for one more year but NFL teams want to get the QB young to develop him so I just don't see all 32 teams passing him up in a 7 round draft. Someone would take him.

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