Ah - Drink finds he is not in Kansas (or Boone) anymore

[AppStFan1]

Missouri will never be top of even the SEC East. UGA, Florida, possibly Kentucky, and even Tennessee once they get their shit together will always dominate. Drink's future will depend on the expectation set forth by their A.D. If the A.D. is content with just making a bowl game, then Drink should be able to get 6 plus wins a year. If the A.D. wants Drink to take them to the SEC Championship, that likely won't happen and his seat might get hot.

He wasn't with App State long enough to be "butt hurt". He won some very important games albeit with Satt players. He also did a complete shit job against Georgia Southern. I like many have just moved on, and look forward to the future.

I will say though, had he been a fan and silent promoter of Coke products I might miss him a bit more.

I'm with you on this. If he somehow wins the SEC East he should get a big raise. As long as expectation is 6-9 wins a year then he should be fine. If they expect him to win 11-12 games and make it to the SEC Title Game and finish in the top 10 regularly then they will probably be disappointed.

[Yosef10]

The amount of pettiness shown toward a guy who went 12-1 and then was offered about 10x more than he was making here is just weird. Why don’t we try to not constantly look like the little brother?

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

The amount of pettiness shown toward a guy who went 12-1 and then was offered about 10x more than he was making here is just weird. Why don’t we try to not constantly look like the little brother?

I'm all about hating the game and not the playa, however....

Hard to not look like the little brother when you get treated like the little brother. Drink used App State to launch his career. One could argue Satt did the same thing, just hung around longer. How shitty is that for the players? Three coaches in three seasons. I think the number of people on this board that wish him failure is a very small minority. The majority (Including myself) just don't really care too much about what he's doing at Mizzou. Large part of that is because we never really got to know him.

[Yosef10]

The amount of pettiness shown toward a guy who went 12-1 and then was offered about 10x more than he was making here is just weird. Why don’t we try to not constantly look like the little brother?

I'm all about hating the game and not the playa, however....

Hard to not look like the little brother when you get treated like the little brother. Drink used App State to launch his career. One could argue Satt did the same thing, just hung around longer. How shitty is that for the players? Three coaches in three seasons. I think the number of people on this board that wish him failure is a very small minority. The majority (Including myself) just don't really care too much about what he's doing at Mizzou. Large part of that is because we never really got to know him.

But it’s just like you said, he played the game. We have to realize that until we can offer more money we will continue to be used to play the game. Maybe we have an outlier in Clark right now, but again, if somebody comes along offering 10x more it’s hard to say no, no matter who you are. Hard to argue the benefits of being a P5 coach vs a Sunbelt coach. That’s not me dumping on anything we have going on, but that’s just the way i think it’s seen by most if you’re not an app state loyalist.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

The amount of pettiness shown toward a guy who went 12-1 and then was offered about 10x more than he was making here is just weird. Why don’t we try to not constantly look like the little brother?

I'm all about hating the game and not the playa, however....

Hard to not look like the little brother when you get treated like the little brother. Drink used App State to launch his career. One could argue Satt did the same thing, just hung around longer. How shitty is that for the players? Three coaches in three seasons. I think the number of people on this board that wish him failure is a very small minority. The majority (Including myself) just don't really care too much about what he's doing at Mizzou. Large part of that is because we never really got to know him.

But it’s just like you said, he played the game. We have to realize that until we can offer more money we will continue to be used to play the game. Maybe we have an outlier in Clark right now, but again, if somebody comes along offering 10x more it’s hard to say no, no matter who you are. Hard to argue the benefits of being a P5 coach vs a Sunbelt coach. That’s not me dumping on anything we have going on, but that’s just the way i think it’s seen by most if you’re not an app state loyalist.

I have no doubt Coach Clark will leave eventually. It's a good sign if he does to an extent. Shows we had success.

[bigdaddyg]

God I sure hope that if SC goes unbeaten and gets offered a huge deal we don’t ride his tail either way. I believe Clark really does love App and I want to believe he wants to be here a long time. If the athletic department takes it in the shorts and massively tough decisions have to be made such as sizable coaching salary cuts and Clark has options are some of you guys going to bitch about that and hope he fails? We are a great program and we can roll on even with coaching upheaval.

[T-Dog]

I just wish Drinkwitz told the truth in his final meeting with the players instead of denying the reports to their faces.

[Yosef10]

I just wish Drinkwitz told the truth in his final meeting with the players instead of denying the reports to their faces.

I was going to throw out a caveat about these type of things. If you have a gripe with him over this, or even his attitude towards the media, then that’s totally understandable. I just think most of these threads/comments come from those who believe he shouldn’t have left just because it was only a year here and we supposedly made the guy the coach he is.

[ah59396]

Mizzou was what, 6-6 last year? They’re not actually terrible. Sure he’ll take a few beatings, but there should be enough winnable games in there too. That was always going to be a rebuild.

It’s not a bad spot to be in, all things considered.

All SEC teams are going to have some lofty expectations but he’s in a spot at Missouri where those expectations are probably quite low by comparison.

Imagine being the guy that has to fill Saban or Coach O’s shoes. Talk about a nightmare scenario. “The last guy in your spot won multiple national championships/had undefeated seasons, how do you plan to replicate that?”


Drink is a good coach and he’s now got what I believe is a “free year” with COVID to figure it out. Any coach that fails this year can chalk it up to the unprecedented circumstances of 2020 and will be given a pass.

He’s going to have close to 2 years there to figure out how to win 7+ games. Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina and Vandy are all very winnable in division.


Personally I hope he dominates and further proves why App State is a great place to launch your coaching career.

[AppStFan1]

The amount of pettiness shown toward a guy who went 12-1 and then was offered about 10x more than he was making here is just weird. Why don’t we try to not constantly look like the little brother?

Who is being petty? It is fair to acknowledge the situation in Missouri is tougher than ours was.

I don’t think anyone is pulling against him but some just don’t care either way while a few people here are pulling hard for him. I personally hope he does well but I don’t expect him to be SEC Champs very soon either.

[WASU 93]

The amount of pettiness shown toward a guy who went 12-1 and then was offered about 10x more than he was making here is just weird. Why don’t we try to not constantly look like the little brother?

I'm all about hating the game and not the playa, however....

Hard to not look like the little brother when you get treated like the little brother. Drink used App State to launch his career. One could argue Satt did the same thing, just hung around longer. How shitty is that for the players? Three coaches in three seasons. I think the number of people on this board that wish him failure is a very small minority. The majority (Including myself) just don't really care too much about what he's doing at Mizzou. Large part of that is because we never really got to know him.

Drink was going to use App State to launch his career in one/three/ or five years. I doubt anyone pegged him as the next Jerry Moore-type when he was hired.
i think it is actually a win-win situation. Drink moved on (an after one year was probably better than after three), we now have a Head Coach who wants to be here long term and is liked by the players and no damage was done in the season Drink was here.
Anything he does positively at Mizzou is a positive reflection on us and will bring us positive press (as we got with Satterfield last year)
As far as the players go, in one regard, it isn't great from a continuity standpoint. But from the other side, our defensive players benefitted from the knowledge of Bryan Brown, Ted Roof and now Dale Jones. Offensively, Satterfield, Drink and Tony Petersen. That may not be the worst thing and could pay dividends for any that want to get into coaching down the road.
Satterfield received offers because he built/continued a successful program. It may not have gone down the way some of us wanted, but it's a pretty common G5 to P5 progression for successful coaches who have good culture.

[huskie3]

I was not comfortable with several things Drink did (the uncertainty of both offense and defense at the start of season: in game management, especially Georgia southern). I like that he seemed to up the assistant coaches staff.

All said I am glad he left after one year, he made a fair interim who did not mess up.

[Appstate88]

Drink draws Saban in week 1. Alabama at Mizzou. Time to earn your salary.

[AppStFan1]

Mizzou was what, 6-6 last year? They’re not actually terrible. Sure he’ll take a few beatings, but there should be enough winnable games in there too. That was always going to be a rebuild.

It’s not a bad spot to be in, all things considered.

All SEC teams are going to have some lofty expectations but he’s in a spot at Missouri where those expectations are probably quite low by comparison.

Imagine being the guy that has to fill Saban or Coach O’s shoes. Talk about a nightmare scenario. “The last guy in your spot won multiple national championships/had undefeated seasons, how do you plan to replicate that?”


Drink is a good coach and he’s now got what I believe is a “free year” with COVID to figure it out. Any coach that fails this year can chalk it up to the unprecedented circumstances of 2020 and will be given a pass.

He’s going to have close to 2 years there to figure out how to win 7+ games. Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina and Vandy are all very winnable in division.


Personally I hope he dominates and further proves why App State is a great place to launch your coaching career.

Yeah they will be happy with 8-9 wins every year and maybe 10+ wins 2 out of say 6-7 years. With Tennessee and Kentucky improving and having Florida and UGA be powers it will be difficult for him to win more than 8 regularly. I feel like SC and Vandy are the only two games they win for sure. If he has an easy enough OOC then I would say his floor each year should be around 5-6 though. Luckily though he does not have to worry about his job if he is winning 8-9 a year like coaches at some programs do.

[bcoach]

Great coach? He walked into a team that was loaded and lost to the stink. Coaching last years team was not a huge challenge. As someone else said lets see in 5 years. Giving him credit for last year is pretty generous.

[bigdaddyg]

Hate dumping more on him but I’ll never forget one of the early Mountaineer Talk shows. He never gave me vibes that he or his family really dug the life in Boone. That’s ok not everyone does. Just didn’t seem genuine. We are ok and his buyout money really helped, especially now.

[SpeedkingATL]

Bama and LSU is a pretty tough draw. Drink won 12 games including UNC and USC during his one year at App so he is alright by me. Glad he got the big payday because unless Mizzu is patient, he might need it.

[MrCraig]

Missouri will never be top of even the SEC East. UGA, Florida, possibly Kentucky, and even Tennessee once they get their shit together will always dominate. Drink's future will depend on the expectation set forth by their A.D. If the A.D. is content with just making a bowl game, then Drink should be able to get 6 plus wins a year. If the A.D. wants Drink to take them to the SEC Championship, that likely won't happen and his seat might get hot.

He wasn't with App State long enough to be "butt hurt". He won some very important games albeit with Satt players. He also did a complete shit job against Georgia Southern. I like many have just moved on, and look forward to the future.

I will say though, had he been a fan and silent promoter of Coke products I might miss him a bit more.

I'm with you on this. If he somehow wins the SEC East he should get a big raise. As long as expectation is 6-9 wins a year then he should be fine. If they expect him to win 11-12 games and make it to the SEC Title Game and finish in the top 10 regularly then they will probably be disappointed.

Georgia is developing into a juggernaut, and Florida and Tennessee are getting much better very quickly. However, Missouri has won the SEC East twice since they've joined the conference. I'm not saying Drink is the man to get them there, I'm just saying its not impossible.

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

I think he's a callous guy and think he was a terrible culture fit as evidenced by the lies he told here, but 99.999999% of us would absolutely jump at the opportunity to work for 6 years and make a cool 24 million and never have to worry about anything ever again.

[APPdiesel]

You guys seem to think Drinkwitz's goal is to turn Mizzou into a conference and/or national contender. His goal is to pick up 2 more wins a year, show programs like Alabama, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, etc that he's good enough to win 2 more games with less...and then take a job at one of those programs meanwhile adding another $5-10 million to his salary.

This is modern college football. The Jerry Moore's who spend 20+ years at a problem don't exist anymore and those who do are probably winning at a clip somewhere between 'just enough not to get fired' and 'not enough to get hired elsewhere'.

Honestly, some of you who don't want a coach who won't promise to never ever ever never ever leave us sound like Southern fans who refuse to hire any coach that's going to change their arcane offense.