Could ACC be snubbed and SBC get in CFP?

[AppInDC]

I actually think the committee got the right teams in this year under the parameters that they work with. I have no problem with 2 G6 teams making the field. But I also don’t pretend that either could compete with any of the other team’s schedules. Nobody ever thought that 2 G6 teams would make it, but they just did. Everyone who thinks the rules will now change to prevent it in the future just remember that all conferences and Noter Dame have a vote. The Sun Belt gets a vote just the same as the SEC gets a vote, now the SEC clearly has more power to influence other votes but they only get a vote. If the other conferences all take a hard stand and stop being bullied by the SEC and BIG10 (18), then who knows what can happens. The Bug 12 and ACC need to realize that their interests align more with the G6 at the end of the day than with the big 2.

I'm not sure if any changes need to be unanimous anymore but I don't know the full details. My understanding is SEC and Big Ten now have a larger say but that's all I know.

From the proposals I have seen, they are still keeping at least spot open for the G5/G6 (when Pac-12 reforms).

The ACC and their members could have prevented this from happening in numerous ways. UVA could have beaten Duke. SMU could have beaten Cal. Duke could have beaten Uconn and Tulane. The conference could have selected better tiebreaks to give Miami or GT a spot in title game. The issue isn't necessarily with the playoff structure. It's because one of the power conferences dropped the ball. If they fix that and actually perform like they are supposed to given their reputation, then James Madison goes goes to New Orleans or Boca Raton and no one has to wring their hands over restructuring of the playoff format.

Pretty sure all conference and Notre Dame get equal votes. The SEC and Big10 tried to usurp more power but it didn’t pass. All the conferences are equal in votes.

Again I don't have full details but I think something has changed to give more weighting to Big Ten/SEC. Below is a sample quote from one article in the New York Times on future playoff formats.

"The new CFP contracts that go into effect after this season give the Big Ten and SEC the final say over the future of the format — though they do require the two richest conferences to seek input from the others"

The above is very vague so I don't know how much "input" is required from the other conferences even if somehow the Big Ten/SEC have final say.

[Stonewall]

They will change the rules. This will not happen again.

[AtlAppMan]

I actually think the committee got the right teams in this year under the parameters that they work with. I have no problem with 2 G6 teams making the field. But I also don’t pretend that either could compete with any of the other team’s schedules. Nobody ever thought that 2 G6 teams would make it, but they just did. Everyone who thinks the rules will now change to prevent it in the future just remember that all conferences and Noter Dame have a vote. The Sun Belt gets a vote just the same as the SEC gets a vote, now the SEC clearly has more power to influence other votes but they only get a vote. If the other conferences all take a hard stand and stop being bullied by the SEC and BIG10 (18), then who knows what can happens. The Bug 12 and ACC need to realize that their interests align more with the G6 at the end of the day than with the big 2.

I'm not sure if any changes need to be unanimous anymore but I don't know the full details. My understanding is SEC and Big Ten now have a larger say but that's all I know.

From the proposals I have seen, they are still keeping at least spot open for the G5/G6 (when Pac-12 reforms).

The ACC and their members could have prevented this from happening in numerous ways. UVA could have beaten Duke. SMU could have beaten Cal. Duke could have beaten Uconn and Tulane. The conference could have selected better tiebreaks to give Miami or GT a spot in title game. The issue isn't necessarily with the playoff structure. It's because one of the power conferences dropped the ball. If they fix that and actually perform like they are supposed to given their reputation, then James Madison goes goes to New Orleans or Boca Raton and no one has to wring their hands over restructuring of the playoff format.

Pretty sure all conference and Notre Dame get equal votes. The SEC and Big10 tried to usurp more power but it didn’t pass. All the conferences are equal in votes.

Again I don't have full details but I think something has changed to give more weighting to Big Ten/SEC. Below is a sample quote from one article in the New York Times on future playoff formats.

"The new CFP contracts that go into effect after this season give the Big Ten and SEC the final say over the future of the format — though they do require the two richest conferences to seek input from the others"

The above is very vague so I don't know how much "input" is required from the other conferences even if somehow the Big Ten/SEC have final say.

Input is just another word for “non-voting stock”. It means you have no control.

It’s what your parents told you when they made all major family decisions. You may have had input and then Daddy and Momma decided what was really going to happen.

[Yosef10]

I think that’s $7.3M coming to the SBC from the CFP, and I believe it’s up to the conferences how that money is distributed- anyone know how Gill would plan to divvy it up?

[Yosef84]

They will change the rules. This will not happen again.

I don't think the CFP rules need to be changed as much as the individual conference rules need to change. They aren't worried about the SEC or Big 10, but I bet they push the ACC and probably the Big 12 to make sure their championship game criteria include CFP rankings, especially in tie breaker scenarios. The ACC has had a log jam for two straight years and this year points to the obvious flaw. If Miami and Duke both had 2 losses (a long with 3 other teams). If the tie-breaker included CFP rankings or overall record as a factor, the CCG would have been Virginia vs Miami and there is no "problem."

[Stonewall]

I didn’t say they needed to change.

[Yosef84]

I didn’t say they needed to change.

Ha! Fair enough! I stand corrected. I do think the ACC rules need to change though. Clearly flawed

[BUTCH1991]

If JMU gets in I can see a change in the future selection process . It’s coming but it may be accelerated.

It's coming

[rbarthle17]

Here's the change coming.

Texas Tech, you and your oil money are welcome to join the SEC.

Miami, you are your cocaine money can join too.

The rest of y'all? Piss off. New tournament. 16 teams. 8 from the SEC and 8 from the Big Ten. ESPN and Fox are funding it, sponsored by DraftKings.

[huskie3]

Jmoo is in, I think they deserve it (they are purple pricks) this year.

[Bootsy]

I was pulling for Troy, but now I hope JMU goes to Oregon and wins. A win would make it a lot more difficult to change who gets in.

You are a better man than me. JMU can't lose by enough to make me happy. Yep, I'm petty.

I’m forcing myself to think big picture.

I am trying to think that way.
But it is hard for me, due to my longstanding allergy to the color purple


What is actually making me feel better is Notre Dame getting the shaft. For once.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Cracks me up to read comments about the “insufferable” fan bases at schools like JMU. Do some of you sit in our games with blinders and ear plugs on/in? For years it was said many times that App fans were obnoxious about a chip on the shoulder, schools dodging us, can beat anyone, anytime and anywhere. Trust me when I say this, we have had our share of the same thing. I have a good friend who is a diehard Carolina fan. He would not root for Duke or State no matter what they play for and hopes they get slaughtered if either plays for a Natty. Personally I could care less what JMU does. I also agree that rules will change.

[311neers]

Teams opting out of bowls.

Too late for us to play in one?

Notre Dame said no thanks. Declined bowl invite.

[RankinApp]

Kansas State and Iowa State opted out as well.

Sorry f'in state of affairs in college football.

[appstate24]

Teams opting out of bowls.

Too late for us to play in one?

Notre Dame said no thanks. Declined bowl invite.

Notre Dame declining a bowl bid because they didn’t make the playoff is so soft. Terrible look for them and terrible for college football. Go cry in the corner.

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

Man they have really made a mess of college football haven't they?

[RankinApp]

From the ESPN article on ND choosing to cry instead of play.

As part of a memorandum of understanding signed last year that guarantees that the field will have at least 12 teams in 2026 and beyond, Notre Dame would be guaranteed a spot if it finishes in the top 12 starting next year.

In addition, under a deal agreed to in March, there will be guaranteed CFP spots for the conference champions from the ACC, Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 and the highest-ranked Group of 5 champion, sources told ESPN. If that had been in place for this season, ACC champion Duke would have made the field and Sun Belt champ James Madison, a second Group of 5 representative, would have been left out.

Dukes better make the most out of the Oregon game because it could be the last chance the Belt gets for awhile.

[ugmw177]

i hope JUwho gets destroyed in first round.

[AppStFan1]

Teams opting out of bowls.

Too late for us to play in one?

Notre Dame said no thanks. Declined bowl invite.

We don't deserve a bowl and I am actually hoping more back out and we see a bunch of bowl games dropped. Going 6-6 should not be enough to get a team in the postseason. Teams should have to have at least 7 wins to even qualify but they lowered it to 6 just to fill slots.

[T-Dog]

The only bowl spot open is versus Georgia Southern in Birmingham on Monday, Dec. 29.

We might be asked.