Former Wake coach sentenced in NYC death case

[asu66]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/art ... 38667.html

Another case of life isn't fair...

3 Years probation, $1,000 fine, 1,500 hours community service, no active prison time

[NewApp]

https://www.wral.com/former-wake-forest ... /18935427/

Another case of life isn't fair...

3 Years probation, $1,000 fine, 1,500 hours community service, no active prison time

In what way was it unfair, asu66? Should he have received a lighter punishment, more severe punishment, or none at all?

[appdaze]

https://www.wral.com/former-wake-forest ... /18935427/

Another case of life isn't fair...

3 Years probation, $1,000 fine, 1,500 hours community service, no active prison time

In what way was it unfair, asu66? Should he have received a lighter punishment, more severe punishment, or none at all?

""The defendant could have driven away from the scene or call 911. Instead, he retaliated by getting out of his car and punching the victim," Queens County District Attorney Melinda Katz said in a statement. "This was a death that could have been avoided, sparing the victim’s family the loss of a loved one.""

He went out of his way to assault the guy that died. He deserves to be in prison. He got off with a slap on the wrist for actively killing someone. This wasn't self defense. He went after the guy. At that point you just committed murder. Throwing a punch is like any other weapon. One good blow can kill someone and you have to be ready for the consequences.

[AtlAppMan]

There’s always more details to a story than are in a headline (or this entire story). If we don’t know all the details then we don’t know the whole story. Just be careful formulating your opinion without all the facts.

[asu66]

https://www.wral.com/former-wake-forest ... /18935427/

Another case of life isn't fair...

3 Years probation, $1,000 fine, 1,500 hours community service, no active prison time

In what way was it unfair, asu66? Should he have received a lighter punishment, more severe punishment, or none at all?

It was a death by "hit and run." The victim needed a quick 911 call and some first-responder-aid and didn't get it. The offender left the scene w/o making any effort to provide assistance. That's a documented fact.

[asu66]

There’s always more details to a story than are in a headline (or this entire story). If we don’t know all the details then we don’t know the whole story. Just be careful formulating your opinion without all the facts.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/ex-wake-f ... c-tourist/

https://www.kitv.com/story/42406945/for ... later-died

https://www.newsobserver.com/article244453447.html

I have friends on the Wake staff and in the Queens neighborhood where the attack occured. I've followed the case weekly since the initial report. Certainly hope you aren't accusing me of jumping to conclusions. I'm not.

[goapps93]

There’s always more details to a story than are in a headline (or this entire story). If we don’t know all the details then we don’t know the whole story. Just be careful formulating your opinion without all the facts.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/ex-wake-f ... c-tourist/

https://www.kitv.com/story/42406945/for ... later-died

https://www.newsobserver.com/article244453447.html

I have friends on the Wake staff and in the Queens neighborhood where the attack occured. I've followed the case weekly since the initial report. Certainly hope you aren't accusing me of jumping to conclusions. I'm not.

You've followed it more than I have. The biggest question I have is with the charge for which he was convicted, a misdemeanor assault. The sentence fits the charge but why such a a light charge. That's where the real issue. Judge's hands had to be tied in sentencing on such a light charge.

[asu66]

There’s always more details to a story than are in a headline (or this entire story). If we don’t know all the details then we don’t know the whole story. Just be careful formulating your opinion without all the facts.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/ex-wake-f ... c-tourist/

https://www.kitv.com/story/42406945/for ... later-died

https://www.newsobserver.com/article244453447.html

I have friends on the Wake staff and in the Queens neighborhood where the attack occured. I've followed the case weekly since the initial report. Certainly hope you aren't accusing me of jumping to conclusions. I'm not.

You've followed it more than I have. The biggest question I have is with the charge for which he was convicted, a misdemeanor assault. The sentence fits the charge but why such a a light charge. That's where the real issue. Judge's hands had to be tied in sentencing on such a light charge.

You're right on target. Quirky State of New York general statutes are the problem. That was the reason for my original "life isn't fair" lament. A mother lost her son because a quriky law allowed a criminal to leave a man to die w/o benefit of immediate first responder care. A man is dead and the assailant/murderer walks away from court with a conviction for a *misdemeanor.* Other states have similar stupid laws.

[Yosef84]

I honestly don't know what the appropriate charge / penalty would have been but it does look like he got off too lightly. On the one hand, it certainly isn't premeditated and I don't believe Jones intended to do serious harm. On the other hand, grown men shouldn't be throwing punches and when you are a large, trained athlete you have to be even more conscious of the fact that a punch can do serious damage. The fact that he left the scene seems extremely damning. The video showed the other guy was backing away with his hands up when Jones hit him...incredibly bad judgment. If I were the family of the victim, I would be very upset as well.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I honestly don't know what the appropriate charge / penalty would have been but it does look like he got off too lightly. On the one hand, it certainly isn't premeditated and I don't believe Jones intended to do serious harm. On the other hand, grown men shouldn't be throwing punches and when you are a large, trained athlete you have to be even more conscious of the fact that a punch can do serious damage. The fact that he left the scene seems extremely damning. The video showed the other guy was backing away with his hands up when Jones hit him...incredibly bad judgment. If I were the family of the victim, I would be very upset as well.

In NY state could the family file in civil court? That does not bring the person back nor force anyone into jail but it would add a bit more to the punishment.

[goapps93]

I honestly don't know what the appropriate charge / penalty would have been but it does look like he got off too lightly. On the one hand, it certainly isn't premeditated and I don't believe Jones intended to do serious harm. On the other hand, grown men shouldn't be throwing punches and when you are a large, trained athlete you have to be even more conscious of the fact that a punch can do serious damage. The fact that he left the scene seems extremely damning. The video showed the other guy was backing away with his hands up when Jones hit him...incredibly bad judgment. If I were the family of the victim, I would be very upset as well.

In NY state could the family file in civil court? That does not bring the person back nor force anyone into jail but it would add a bit more to the punishment.

I'm sure there will be a civil case, if there hasn't been one already. I would also think in NC the conviction would have been for voluntary manslaughter which would have carried, at least, a short prison sentence. Though this sentence is very light I think that it, and a civil case that will likely award quite a bit in damages, has pretty much ruined this guys career and will severely affect the rest of his life. Is that enough? Maybe, maybe not. Just a sad situation all the way around.