Start Lamb

[AppAttack]

A lot of the problem is that our receivers are very short (5-9, 5-10). They just got jammed at the line and the o-line couldn't hold so Kam could wait for them to get open. We won't face pass defenses or pass rushes like that very often. I guess all the tall receivers get taken by the P5 programs. It would be nice to steal a few 6-2 to 6-4 guys and catch the ball over the top or go up and get it even when covered.

[NewApp]

You know... It sure would be nice to go into a season knowing the starter is truly the best person for the job. How many years have we done this in a row??

Two?

Are you counting the year at Trey started ahead of Armanti?

[EastHallApp]

You know... It sure would be nice to go into a season knowing the starter is truly the best person for the job. How many years have we done this in a row??

Two?

Are you counting the year at Trey started ahead of Armanti?

"How many years have we done this in a row??"

So, no.

[NewApp]

You know... It sure would be nice to go into a season knowing the starter is truly the best person for the job. How many years have we done this in a row??

Two?

Are you counting the year at Trey started ahead of Armanti?

"How many years have we done this in a row??"

So, no.

Yep, I didn't catch the "in a row."

[NewApp]

Hello all, new to this site but being a past app grade I saw it and had to join in.
In regards to Lamb starting, I have to say that I had those same thoughts when I saw him drive the team down the field Saturday. I asked myself (where has this guy been all day)? But I am sure that the coaches that see Lamb and Bryant everyday know much better then me as far as who is more ready for the SBC play this year. Maybe Lamb is the future, maybe not, IDK but I do know that our team did not look very good at all on Saturday. I really expected to see a better game. I honestly did not think we would win again (just knowing that they are going to play over their heads to beat us this time). But I did expect at least a showing on our part and I feel like that did not happen until the 2nd half when Lamb came in the game. Say what you will about it being against their 2nd string or what ever but in all honestly their 2nd string is still more than likely better their our first string so Lamb still played real good and out played Bryant.

I expected more, too considering how much bad mouthing Michigan took on here saying how the Michigan dynasty how gone down the john.

[AppSt94]

Hello all, new to this site but being a past app grade I saw it and had to join in.
In regards to Lamb starting, I have to say that I had those same thoughts when I saw him drive the team down the field Saturday. I asked myself (where has this guy been all day)? But I am sure that the coaches that see Lamb and Bryant everyday know much better then me as far as who is more ready for the SBC play this year. Maybe Lamb is the future, maybe not, IDK but I do know that our team did not look very good at all on Saturday. I really expected to see a better game. I honestly did not think we would win again (just knowing that they are going to play over their heads to beat us this time). But I did expect at least a showing on our part and I feel like that did not happen until the 2nd half when Lamb came in the game. Say what you will about it being against their 2nd string or what ever but in all honestly their 2nd string is still more than likely better their our first string so Lamb still played real good and out played Bryant.

You do realize that Bryant led a 75 yard scoring drive prior to Lamb taking over? Lamb did play well but was bailed out on a 3rd and 8 by Sumler on a poorly thrown ball.

[ASUPATCH]

Hello all, new to this site but being a past app grade I saw it and had to join in.
In regards to Lamb starting, I have to say that I had those same thoughts when I saw him drive the team down the field Saturday. I asked myself (where has this guy been all day)? But I am sure that the coaches that see Lamb and Bryant everyday know much better then me as far as who is more ready for the SBC play this year. Maybe Lamb is the future, maybe not, IDK but I do know that our team did not look very good at all on Saturday. I really expected to see a better game. I honestly did not think we would win again (just knowing that they are going to play over their heads to beat us this time). But I did expect at least a showing on our part and I feel like that did not happen until the 2nd half when Lamb came in the game. Say what you will about it being against their 2nd string or what ever but in all honestly their 2nd string is still more than likely better their our first string so Lamb still played real good and out played Bryant.

You do realize that Bryant led a 75 yard scoring drive prior to Lamb taking over? Lamb did play well but was bailed out on a 3rd and 8 by Sumler on a poorly thrown ball.

Kam was far more "bailed out" by Mcelfresh's acrobatic catch than Lamb was throwing his first college pass.

[AppSt94]

Hello all, new to this site but being a past app grade I saw it and had to join in.
In regards to Lamb starting, I have to say that I had those same thoughts when I saw him drive the team down the field Saturday. I asked myself (where has this guy been all day)? But I am sure that the coaches that see Lamb and Bryant everyday know much better then me as far as who is more ready for the SBC play this year. Maybe Lamb is the future, maybe not, IDK but I do know that our team did not look very good at all on Saturday. I really expected to see a better game. I honestly did not think we would win again (just knowing that they are going to play over their heads to beat us this time). But I did expect at least a showing on our part and I feel like that did not happen until the 2nd half when Lamb came in the game. Say what you will about it being against their 2nd string or what ever but in all honestly their 2nd string is still more than likely better their our first string so Lamb still played real good and out played Bryant.

You do realize that Bryant led a 75 yard scoring drive prior to Lamb taking over? Lamb did play well but was bailed out on a 3rd and 8 by Sumler on a poorly thrown ball.

Kam was far more "bailed out" by Mcelfresh's acrobatic catch than Lamb was throwing his first college pass.

I realize that McElfresh made a great catch but the throw was put where only he would have been able to make a play on the ball. I was just making sure that the poster knew that Lamb did not lead both scoring drives.

[ASUPATCH]

Here might be the most telling stat from the game.

3 and outs

Kam 6
Lamb 0

Or total passing stats.
YDS QBR
Taylor Lamb 9/14 69 4.9 0 0 84.2 all done in two drives.
Kameron Bryant 8/19 58 3.1 1 0 3.0 in 9 offensive possessions.

Based on yards per possession Lamb played 5x as well. Based on QBR he played 28x as well. 28x

[hapapp]

Here might be the most telling stat from the game.

3 and outs

Kam 6
Lamb 0

Or total passing stats.
YDS QBR
Taylor Lamb 9/14 69 4.9 0 0 84.2 all done in two drives.
Kameron Bryant 8/19 58 3.1 1 0 3.0 in 9 offensive possessions.

Based on yards per possession Lamb played 5x as well. Based on QBR he played 28x as well. 28x

Perhaps if he was in there for more than 2 drives we might have a fairer comparison. No doubt based on their play, Lamb's stats are better. However, if this were some type of scientific survey, we wouldn't too much faith in the results based on the limited sample available to evaluate.

I'm not sure I understand this debate at this point. We know what Kam has done in the past. We know his limitations but we also know his strengths. I don't think one poor performance shuts the door on him going forward as our best option. It may be that with more playing time it becomes apparent that Taylor is the right choice. However, given where we are in the season, it is hard to make such a judgment after one game. In the end, I think all of us want the best man for the job. It seems silly to me to be taking sides and pushing one over the other at this point.

[EastHallApp]

Here might be the most telling stat from the game.

3 and outs

Kam 6
Lamb 0

Or total passing stats.
YDS QBR
Taylor Lamb 9/14 69 4.9 0 0 84.2 all done in two drives.
Kameron Bryant 8/19 58 3.1 1 0 3.0 in 9 offensive possessions.

Based on yards per possession Lamb played 5x as well. Based on QBR he played 28x as well. 28x

But again, if you make the comparison at least somewhat fair by only using 2nd half stats for both, the numbers are much closer, and in fact Bryant averaged nearly 2x as many yards per attempt as Lamb.

[AppSt94]

Here might be the most telling stat from the game.

3 and outs

Kam 6
Lamb 0

Or total passing stats.
YDS QBR
Taylor Lamb 9/14 69 4.9 0 0 84.2 all done in two drives.
Kameron Bryant 8/19 58 3.1 1 0 3.0 in 9 offensive possessions.

Based on yards per possession Lamb played 5x as well. Based on QBR he played 28x as well. 28x

Those are good numbers to support your point. However, Lamb did not face the same talent and scheme that KB faced during his time on the field. By the time Bryant and Lamb led their TD drives Michigan had called off the dogs and stopped pressing the WR at the line which opened up some routes. But since you want to use these stats, here is a thought. Lamb accuracy rate in the limited sample is 64%. KB has a higher percentage in a much larger body of work.

[BUTCH1991]

Let's move on to Week 2.

[EastHallApp]

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You do realize that Bryant led a 75 yard scoring drive prior to Lamb taking over? Lamb did play well but was bailed out on a 3rd and 8 by Sumler on a poorly thrown ball.

Kam was far more "bailed out" by Mcelfresh's acrobatic catch than Lamb was throwing his first college pass.

Disagree. Bryant threw that ball exactly where it was supposed to go. Lamb's throw was supposed to hit Sumler in stride and instead was way behind him.

[Yosef10]

Here might be the most telling stat from the game.

3 and outs

Kam 6
Lamb 0

Or total passing stats.
YDS QBR
Taylor Lamb 9/14 69 4.9 0 0 84.2 all done in two drives.
Kameron Bryant 8/19 58 3.1 1 0 3.0 in 9 offensive possessions.

Based on yards per possession Lamb played 5x as well. Based on QBR he played 28x as well. 28x

Those are good numbers to support your point. However, Lamb did not face the same talent and scheme that KB faced during his time on the field. By the time Bryant and Lamb led their TD drives Michigan had called off the dogs and stopped pressing the WR at the line which opened up some routes. But since you want to use these stats, here is a thought. Lamb accuracy rate in the limited sample is 64%. KB has a higher percentage in a much larger body of work.

Ok and I'll take 64% completion any day. Especially when balls are flying more than 8 yards down field. I saw you bashing 70 for his "eye test" but if you've watched enough football you know who can play an who can't. You don't have to be a college scout/coach to have an eye test. When I can see how slow Kams ball is and how it just flutters compared to lambs pace on the ball as well as quick decision making. We don't need any changes right away but it's pretty damn easy to see who the more talented quarterback is. If he's ready to be a starter is a different question, buts it's pretty easy to see who the more gifted QB is. Lamb won Gatorade player of the year for a reason while Kam was an unranked recruit with few to none other offers besides us as an FCS.

[AppSt94]

Here might be the most telling stat from the game.

3 and outs

Kam 6
Lamb 0

Or total passing stats.
YDS QBR
Taylor Lamb 9/14 69 4.9 0 0 84.2 all done in two drives.
Kameron Bryant 8/19 58 3.1 1 0 3.0 in 9 offensive possessions.

Based on yards per possession Lamb played 5x as well. Based on QBR he played 28x as well. 28x

Those are good numbers to support your point. However, Lamb did not face the same talent and scheme that KB faced during his time on the field. By the time Bryant and Lamb led their TD drives Michigan had called off the dogs and stopped pressing the WR at the line which opened up some routes. But since you want to use these stats, here is a thought. Lamb accuracy rate in the limited sample is 64%. KB has a higher percentage in a much larger body of work.

Ok and I'll take 64% completion any day. Especially when balls are flying more than 8 yards down field. I saw you bashing 70 for his "eye test" but if you've watched enough football you know who can play an who can't. You don't have to be a college scout/coach to have an eye test. When I can see how slow Kams ball is and how it just flutters compared to lambs pace on the ball as well as quick decision making. We don't need any changes right away but it's pretty damn easy to see who the more talented quarterback is. If he's ready to be a starter is a different question, buts it's pretty easy to see who the more gifted QB is. Lamb won Gatorade player of the year for a reason while Kam was an unranked recruit with few to none other offers besides us as an FCS.

I never said that Lamb couldn't play. I never said that he didn't look like he should be the starter. He looked good and Kam "looked" inefficient. My point was that his eye test was based off of two drives under different circumstaces within the game and the coaches made a decision based on competition. 70 seemed to think that he knows more than the coaches.

[WVAPPeer]

END THIS - PLEASE!!!
LAMB IS NOT STARTING OVER KAM - PERIOD!!!

[Gonzo]

END THIS - PLEASE!!!
LAMB IS NOT STARTING OVER KAM - PERIOD!!!

I'm saving this for later in the season.

[AppAttack]

WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS BETTER YET!!! NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING!!! LET'S MOVE ON!

[WVAPPeer]

END THIS - PLEASE!!!
LAMB IS NOT STARTING OVER KAM - PERIOD!!!

I'm saving this for later in the season.

I was referring to this week but, yes, unless Kam gets hurt he is our QB this season - I was impressed with Lamb and I'm glad we have him in the wings and certainly see him getting quality playing time --- So - save this one my friend