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Unread post by CornCobPipes » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:51 am

skjellyfetti wrote:
CornCobPipes wrote: I just wish we would make a decision to go with the uni style we had through the 3Champ run and keep them going forward and establish tradition with those, keeping the gold jersey in the mix with the black and white of course.
We can't. Those were "stylish" uniforms from the early 2000s (see: Miami 2001). They look simply outdated. Not old enough to be "classic" or "traditional", too old to look good on their own.

Our uniform tradition is change. Plain and simple.
Alabama, Texas, Florida, USC, Michigan, Penn State, and the list goes on, have had very minimal if any change to unis and have a great degree of success through the years. When someone sees their unis that is not a big college football fan, they can usually identify with who the school is.

So I guess this would translate to "No change and very plain and simple"
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Unread post by moehler » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:27 am

just keep that dam, corn pipe, hillbilly head off the helmets and Im happy

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Unread post by Gonzo » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:36 am

CornCobPipes wrote: Alabama, Texas, Florida, USC, Michigan, Penn State, and the list goes on, have had very minimal if any change to unis and have a great degree of success through the years.
Oregon, Maryland, Baylor, and Appalachian State have had occasional uniform change and have a great deal of success over the years.

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Unread post by bcoach » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:57 am

If we worried as much about real problems we would be a lot better off. Maybe we need guys who are more worried about spending time in the weight room than their next uniform style. I can just see it now. Coach Ditka can I talk to you about our uniforms? or how about this? Coach Spurrier I just can't commit to playing for you till I know what color socks we will be wearing for the next 5 years. :roll:

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Unread post by skjellyfetti » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:03 pm

CornCobPipes wrote: Alabama, Texas, Florida, USC, Michigan, Penn State, and the list goes on, have had very minimal if any change to unis and have a great degree of success through the years. When someone sees their unis that is not a big college football fan, they can usually identify with who the school is.

So I guess this would translate to "No change and very plain and simple"
It's not the same as saying we should go back to the uniforms we had during our championship run.

Alabama, Texas, USC, Michigan, Penn State, etc. have classic uniforms that have only minimal changes for DECADES.

I'm sorry to let you know, but we do not have that tradition. The only constant in our uniform tradition is change. You obviously don't like that. OK.

We could try to create it artificially by introducing a permanent "throwback uniform" that would look akin to Wofford's.

But, just putting the stripes on the chest and shoulders from the 2001 Miami uniforms isn't tradition.

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Unread post by AppAttack » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:02 pm

CornCobPipes wrote:
skjellyfetti wrote:
CornCobPipes wrote: I just wish we would make a decision to go with the uni style we had through the 3Champ run and keep them going forward and establish tradition with those, keeping the gold jersey in the mix with the black and white of course.
We can't. Those were "stylish" uniforms from the early 2000s (see: Miami 2001). They look simply outdated. Not old enough to be "classic" or "traditional", too old to look good on their own.

Our uniform tradition is change. Plain and simple.
Alabama, Texas, Florida, USC, Michigan, Penn State, and the list goes on, have had very minimal if any change to unis and have a great degree of success through the years. When someone sees their unis that is not a big college football fan, they can usually identify with who the school is.

So I guess this would translate to "No change and very plain and simple"
Texas just added the numbers to their helmets and Penn St just added names to the back of their uniforms. I see what you're saying though, but we don't have that kind of long-standing tradition on the biggest stages.

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Unread post by Kgfish » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:00 pm

moehler wrote:just keep that dam, corn pipe, hillbilly head off the helmets and Im happy
Hate to hear you despise our mascot so much. Adding the REAL Yosef back on the helmets was the best uniform change since 1979.
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Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:13 pm

yosefederation wrote:We agree to wear the alternative uniforms once a year, and in return Nike provides us will all uniforms free of charge for season. Not costing us a penny. someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this. Go Apps!!!!!!!
I didn't know about the exact agreement, but it's pretty obvious to anyone who pays any attention to college sports that the apparel companies are the ones driving the constant uniform tweaks and variations. The idea that we'd have to pay Nike for them to do what they are likely pushing to do anyway seems counterintuitive.

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:20 pm

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EastHallApp wrote:
yosefederation wrote:We agree to wear the alternative uniforms once a year, and in return Nike provides us will all uniforms free of charge for season. Not costing us a penny. someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this. Go Apps!!!!!!!
I didn't know about the exact agreement, but it's pretty obvious to anyone who pays any attention to college sports that the apparel companies are the ones driving the constant uniform tweaks and variations. The idea that we'd have to pay Nike for them to do what they are likely pushing to do anyway seems counterintuitive.
I am glad i read to the end of the thread before commenting. This is directly a product of Nike! You are exactly right!...and if it had been UnderArmour as our uni maker then UnderArmour.

They asked us to come up with a plan and they took what we had and this is the result. ....and to whomever wrote it......as much as a tradition lives in my bonus room for Appalachian State University. The Nation at large does not "see" ASU as a brand in the likes of Alabama, Penn State, and Texas.

If it makes better kids come to ASU, and them work harder after they get here then they can wear PURPLE! (not really) but you get my drift.

In the late 70's when we were painting helmets on Wednesday night I often wondered what the Notre Dame staff was doing? Now, we do not have to wonder. We have a uniform that competes with anyone and a once a year uni....to appeal to the apparel people and our kids, and fans.

Every kid I talked to this weekend.....(None of them players)....that saw the uniform liked it....but you know what they saw....including women....the gold facemask!
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Unread post by Kgfish » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:28 pm

skjellyfetti wrote:
CornCobPipes wrote: I just wish we would make a decision to go with the uni style we had through the 3Champ run and keep them going forward and establish tradition with those, keeping the gold jersey in the mix with the black and white of course.
We can't. Those were "stylish" uniforms from the early 2000s (see: Miami 2001). They look simply outdated. Not old enough to be "classic" or "traditional", too old to look good on their own.

Our uniform tradition is change. Plain and simple.
I understand what you're saying but most of the changes have more to do with logos, stripes and styles. There have been relatively few deviations in the basic uniform during the modern era. Other than 1982 when white pants (home and road) were used the only real change from gold pants with black/white tops was when Mack Brown introduced the the black helmet. Jerry Moore used a mixed bag in 1989 & 90 (gold pants with white/black tops, all black, all white and black pants white tops) before settling on all black as our standard home uniform in 1991, with black/white & white/white on the road.

I don't object an occasional deviation on special days but prefer we stick to a traditional look 99% of the time. I'm not thrilled with the Tron look of these, esp the lettering and numbers font. It seems we are trying to be like Oregon in a lot of ways.
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Unread post by Yosef10 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:36 pm

Kgfish wrote:
skjellyfetti wrote:
CornCobPipes wrote: I just wish we would make a decision to go with the uni style we had through the 3Champ run and keep them going forward and establish tradition with those, keeping the gold jersey in the mix with the black and white of course.
We can't. Those were "stylish" uniforms from the early 2000s (see: Miami 2001). They look simply outdated. Not old enough to be "classic" or "traditional", too old to look good on their own.

Our uniform tradition is change. Plain and simple.
I understand what you're saying but most of the changes have more to do with logos, stripes and styles. There have been relatively few deviations in the basic uniform during the modern era. Other than 1982 when white pants (home and road) were used the only real change from gold pants with black/white tops was when Mack Brown introduced the the black helmet. Jerry Moore used a mixed bag in 1989 & 90 (gold pants with white/black tops, all black, all white and black pants white tops) before settling on all black as our standard home uniform in 1991, with black/white & white/white on the road.

I don't object an occasional deviation on special days but prefer we stick to a traditional look 99% of the time. I'm not thrilled with the Tron look of these, esp the lettering and numbers font. It seems we are trying to be like Oregon in a lot of ways.
Today's jerseys are head and shoulders above the outdated jerseys from almost a decade ago, much less when you're referring to 1989 & 1990. I think the athletic department along with nike have a pretty firm grasp on our apparel and are doing a damn good job. Looking on twitter during recruiting kids loved the facility and the uniforms. For those who interact with the generation currently playing college football, I don't think it's a bad thing in the least bit if we have an Oregon approach to uniforms. By the way our uniforms are nowhere near as flashy as oregons...unfortunately

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EastHallApp wrote:
yosefederation wrote:We agree to wear the alternative uniforms once a year, and in return Nike provides us will all uniforms free of charge for season. Not costing us a penny. someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this. Go Apps!!!!!!!
I didn't know about the exact agreement, but it's pretty obvious to anyone who pays any attention to college sports that the apparel companies are the ones driving the constant uniform tweaks and variations. The idea that we'd have to pay Nike for them to do what they are likely pushing to do anyway seems counterintuitive.

Totally agree and I think the companies are nefariously behind the pretty much mandatory elimination of Native American mascots. to an extent at least.
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Yosef10 wrote:
Kgfish wrote:
skjellyfetti wrote:
CornCobPipes wrote: I just wish we would make a decision to go with the uni style we had through the 3Champ run and keep them going forward and establish tradition with those, keeping the gold jersey in the mix with the black and white of course.
We can't. Those were "stylish" uniforms from the early 2000s (see: Miami 2001). They look simply outdated. Not old enough to be "classic" or "traditional", too old to look good on their own.

Our uniform tradition is change. Plain and simple.
I understand what you're saying but most of the changes have more to do with logos, stripes and styles. There have been relatively few deviations in the basic uniform during the modern era. Other than 1982 when white pants (home and road) were used the only real change from gold pants with black/white tops was when Mack Brown introduced the the black helmet. Jerry Moore used a mixed bag in 1989 & 90 (gold pants with white/black tops, all black, all white and black pants white tops) before settling on all black as our standard home uniform in 1991, with black/white & white/white on the road.

I don't object an occasional deviation on special days but prefer we stick to a traditional look 99% of the time. I'm not thrilled with the Tron look of these, esp the lettering and numbers font. It seems we are trying to be like Oregon in a lot of ways.
Today's jerseys are head and shoulders above the outdated jerseys from almost a decade ago, much less when you're referring to 1989 & 1990. I think the athletic department along with nike have a pretty firm grasp on our apparel and are doing a damn good job. Looking on twitter during recruiting kids loved the facility and the uniforms. For those who interact with the generation currently playing college football, I don't think it's a bad thing in the least bit if we have an Oregon approach to uniforms. By the way our uniforms are nowhere near as flashy as oregons...unfortunately
If the uniforms are a deal breaker....then that is sad as it shows a certain extent of vanity.
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Unread post by Kgfish » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:15 am

Yosef10 wrote:
Kgfish wrote:
skjellyfetti wrote:
CornCobPipes wrote: I just wish we would make a decision to go with the uni style we had through the 3Champ run and keep them going forward and establish tradition with those, keeping the gold jersey in the mix with the black and white of course.
We can't. Those were "stylish" uniforms from the early 2000s (see: Miami 2001). They look simply outdated. Not old enough to be "classic" or "traditional", too old to look good on their own.

Our uniform tradition is change. Plain and simple.
I understand what you're saying but most of the changes have more to do with logos, stripes and styles. There have been relatively few deviations in the basic uniform during the modern era. Other than 1982 when white pants (home and road) were used the only real change from gold pants with black/white tops was when Mack Brown introduced the the black helmet. Jerry Moore used a mixed bag in 1989 & 90 (gold pants with white/black tops, all black, all white and black pants white tops) before settling on all black as our standard home uniform in 1991, with black/white & white/white on the road.

I don't object an occasional deviation on special days but prefer we stick to a traditional look 99% of the time. I'm not thrilled with the Tron look of these, esp the lettering and numbers font. It seems we are trying to be like Oregon in a lot of ways.
Today's jerseys are head and shoulders above the outdated jerseys from almost a decade ago, much less when you're referring to 1989 & 1990. I think the athletic department along with nike have a pretty firm grasp on our apparel and are doing a damn good job. Looking on twitter during recruiting kids loved the facility and the uniforms. For those who interact with the generation currently playing college football, I don't think it's a bad thing in the least bit if we have an Oregon approach to uniforms. By the way our uniforms are nowhere near as flashy as oregons...unfortunately
I didn't say App's uniforms were as "flashy" as Oregon's and I'm glad they aren't. I admit to being a traditionalist. I despise all the constant change and believe all it does is blur who you are. A little change this year, a little change next year and ten years down the road you have become what the uniform company wants, not what you're supposed to be. These companies try to outshine each other in order to promote their latest fabric. Their designers have to come up with something different every couple of years. It's all part of their marketing plan to promote their products. It has nothing to do with Appalachian or any other school. We signed a deal and are at their mercy. I have a hard time allowing uniform design subject to the whims of a new coach, or in the case of App football the equipment guy. IMO, the university should develop a basic design and stick with it throughout the department. When that team is on the field or court, people should be able to instantly realize what school they represent.

Before responding please apply some common sense to my last statement. Don't go off on some tangent about App not having the national awareness to be instantly recognizable by the uniform our teams wear. Think on a regional, conference scale and not nationally.
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Unread post by AppHoops » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:51 am

Meh I personally don't like them. I think we're trying too hard.

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