Haven't seen this posted; so here goes...

[Saint3333]

In our last 5 or 6 years we have had years where we raised 5.7 mil, 5.2, 4.1 and a few over 3 - so congrats on raising over 3? We were raising that WITHOUT the most popular sport in the nation. Think about that for just a second.

You may be confusing total revenue generated vs. booster club donations.

The latest information I have available does show that UNCC generated $5.1M of revenue in 2010.

The 2009 goal for the 49er Club was $1.25M.

http://www.charlotte49ers.com/ViewArtic ... =204862727

Not sure what the current goal is, but your comment about 5 or 6 years and the amounts you have provided is inaccurate. If the 49er Club had raised $5M a year I would imagine that would have made your website as lucheon raising $145k was news worthy.

You may also be including Richardson's capital project donation in your amount. The Yosef Club amount is exclusive of any capital project donations or club seats/suite revenue.

[fjblair]

not going to play them in 2014, Charlotte wants nothing to do with us for the next 3 years, and we sure as hell are not going to play the first game in Charlotte.

So we want nothing to do with App but we are willing to schedule ODU and JMU?

Rather obvious isn't it?

[fjblair]

In our last 5 or 6 years we have had years where we raised 5.7 mil, 5.2, 4.1 and a few over 3 - so congrats on raising over 3? We were raising that WITHOUT the most popular sport in the nation. Think about that for just a second.

You may be confusing total revenue generated vs. booster club donations.

The latest information I have available does show that UNCC generated $5.1M of revenue in 2010.

The 2009 goal for the 49er Club was $1.25M.

http://www.charlotte49ers.com/ViewArtic ... =204862727

Not sure what the current goal is, but your comment about 5 or 6 years and the amounts you have provided is inaccurate. If the 49er Club had raised $5M a year I would imagine that would have made your website as lucheon raising $145k was news worthy.

You may also be including Richardson's capital project donation in your amount. The Yosef Club amount is exclusive of any capital project donations or club seats/suite revenue.

Nice smack down. Wonder what their actual booster club numbers are? Surely their goals exceed 1.25m now.

[appst89]

In our last 5 or 6 years we have had years where we raised 5.7 mil, 5.2, 4.1 and a few over 3 - so congrats on raising over 3? We were raising that WITHOUT the most popular sport in the nation. Think about that for just a second.

You may be confusing total revenue generated vs. booster club donations.

The latest information I have available does show that UNCC generated $5.1M of revenue in 2010.

The 2009 goal for the 49er Club was $1.25M.

http://www.charlotte49ers.com/ViewArtic ... =204862727

Not sure what the current goal is, but your comment about 5 or 6 years and the amounts you have provided is inaccurate. If the 49er Club had raised $5M a year I would imagine that would have made your website as lucheon raising $145k was news worthy.

You may also be including Richardson's capital project donation in your amount. The Yosef Club amount is exclusive of any capital project donations or club seats/suite revenue.

Nice smack down. Wonder what their actual booster club numbers are? Surely their goals exceed 1.25m now.

Facts are pesky little things.

Wonder if he'll be back?

[Saint3333]

Certainly wasn't meant as smack, just wanted to be sure he understands the difference in the numbers he was talking about.

I would be interested in knowing what they raised 2010 until today, football should have helped.

[NWA49]

Certainly wasn't meant as smack, just wanted to be sure he understands the difference in the numbers he was talking about.

I would be interested in knowing what they raised 2010 until today, football should have helped.

The numbers I was quoting was total contributions to the Athletic Foundation.

[Saint3333]

Do you have a link to support them?

How about what the 49er club has raised the last few years?

App raised about $600k just 8 years ago. Things can change quickly. UNCC may have seen a significant increase the last three years. Surely some UNCC fan has the answers.

[ggasu]

In our last 5 or 6 years we have had years where we raised 5.7 mil, 5.2, 4.1 and a few over 3 - so congrats on raising over 3? We were raising that WITHOUT the most popular sport in the nation. Think about that for just a second.

I am also assuming you are talking just football at this point since you are talking support at home and away games and tradition. So you are saying we don't have a history of great fan support during the games that we haven't played? Yup you got us there.

Your record in 2008 was 1.2 million.

http://gmine.blogspot.com/2008/07/49er- ... ecord.html

[Appftw]

This is the only thing I could find before I got bored of searching on google : http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/pr ... l?page=all

11 million dollar athletic budget in 2011. I've seen NWA brag about how their budget dwarfed ours before and forgot to show this to him. We're at 16 million and about to increase over 20. We're also due for facilities upgrades if this moving up thing works out.

Ninernation.net is a fantasy world filled with things about how "App is in our rearview mirror". These guys have no idea.

[JTApps1]

In our last 5 or 6 years we have had years where we raised 5.7 mil, 5.2, 4.1 and a few over 3 - so congrats on raising over 3? We were raising that WITHOUT the most popular sport in the nation. Think about that for just a second.

You may be confusing total revenue generated vs. booster club donations.

The latest information I have available does show that UNCC generated $5.1M of revenue in 2010.

The 2009 goal for the 49er Club was $1.25M.

http://www.charlotte49ers.com/ViewArtic ... =204862727

Not sure what the current goal is, but your comment about 5 or 6 years and the amounts you have provided is inaccurate. If the 49er Club had raised $5M a year I would imagine that would have made your website as lucheon raising $145k was news worthy.

You may also be including Richardson's capital project donation in your amount. The Yosef Club amount is exclusive of any capital project donations or club seats/suite revenue.

Nice find Saint. This is similar to the YC reporting $3 Mil in donations, but generating over $4.2 mil in revenue when factoring in premium seat sells and such. I'm thinking the PSL sales may be getting lumped in with their donations. Either way we will do our thing and be the best we can be, and if Rose ever stops dodging us we will worry about UNCC then. I'm ready for Montana!

[NWA49]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... /finances/

Our 2012 numbers are wrong according to the AD.

[bcoach]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... /finances/

Our 2012 numbers are wrong according to the AD.

So if I read this correctly there are 7 schools in the nation that have athletic programs that are self supporting. I guess that the coaches at those schools just are not making enough money

[moehler]

one of the hardest things to get is an accurate number of a schools athletic revenue/expense budget. Schools are allowed to be "creative" with their accounting, and can make numbers appear a lot better than they actually are. Not saying UNCC is doing anything wrong, but all this confusion about how much they raised thru their athletic club, supports this.

[NWA49]

one of the hardest things to get is an accurate number of a schools athletic revenue/expense budget. Schools are allowed to be "creative" with their accounting, and can make numbers appear a lot better than they actually are. Not saying UNCC is doing anything wrong, but all this confusion about how much they raised thru their athletic club, supports this.

Agreed, and many schools count different funding different than other schools so it is very hard to get apples to apples. I don't think there is really a "right" or "wrong" way, just different ways and I assume as long as your one way is consistent then it fits the accounting needs at each individual school.

App has also had a huge advantage over us in ticket sales. While we won't have 30,000 off the bat our ticket sales revenue will jump from 500,000 to over 1.5M. For me what I look at when I see the numbers is we have done relatively well considering that we didn't have football and our marquee sport has not been to the NCAAs since 2005. For us to see the continued giving and budget that we have points to a bright future.

Gonzo and others keep saying we have such a small fan base and no one cares - so if this is what our small fan base without anyone caring can do, well then if football is successful in turning some non-fans into fans then we have quiet a large population of alums that could turn these numbers into something big.

[Saint3333]

So Judy says the numbers provided by her staff to outsiders are incorrect? This sounds like the Chinese government.

Let me simplify this debate. The original comment related to comparing the Yosef Club to the 49er Club. One raised $3M last year the other raised $1.2M three years ago (the latest information available).

[GlassOnion]

I have no interest in playing uncc. Definitely not in Charlotte. I'd check back in 5 or 6 years. 2014, they'll still be FCS, and when they do make the jump, I have my doubts on exactly how successful they may be. I have a strong feeling they'll be taking the Ga. St path to success.

[NWA49]

So Judy says the numbers provided by her staff to outsiders are incorrect? This sounds like the Chinese government.

Let me simplify this debate. The original comment related to comparing the Yosef Club to the 49er Club. One raised $3M last year the other raised $1.2M three years ago (the latest information available).

It isn't provided by the staff it is retrieved by USA Today. We contacted our AD and they said the numbers were wrong and that they would have it corrected. That was a few months ago, trust me I am not a huge fan of our AD so not sure what is going on there. Just that they have said they are not correct, which I believe given the amount of money I know came in.

As for the debate, it goes back to what I said above. AD count funding, revenue and expenses differently so it is hard to actually make that comparison. Unless we looked at the raw data in Apps books and the raw data in Charlotte's there is no way to know if it is apples to apples. If you want to use those figures fine, but looking at total contributions to me is a better comparison. To each their own though.

[Saint3333]

You are changing the parameters of the original question. Yosef Club vs. 49er Club, that is apples to apples, either you don't have the information or you just don't like the results.

[NWA49]

You are changing the parameters of the original question. Yosef Club vs. 49er Club, that is apples to apples, either you don't have the information or you just don't like the results.

It is based on how each club is reporting their numbers. You want to compare with how we report ours with how you report yours, that is fine. All I am saying is that I don't know what goes into ours or yours. I have no idea if that is based on the same giving parameters. You want to use that as comparison - knock yourself out.

[bcoach]

You are changing the parameters of the original question. Yosef Club vs. 49er Club, that is apples to apples, either you don't have the information or you just don't like the results.

It is based on how each club is reporting their numbers. You want to compare with how we report ours with how you report yours, that is fine. All I am saying is that I don't know what goes into ours or yours. I have no idea if that is based on the same giving parameters. You want to use that as comparison - knock yourself out.

DAMN this ain't tough. How much did east club take in. Not the schools but the clubs. Should be one bottom line for each. THE CLUBS!!! JUST THE CLUBS!!!!


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