Top 25 Watch (real thread)

[BeauFoster]

I guess this is my point (and I'll admit I may be wrong). If there is no G5 team in the final AP poll and we win the Sunbelt and finish with the most votes outside the top 25, do we get the auto NY6 bid?

I'm not sure what the process is if no G5 team is ranked. I'd imagine that the committee would "select" someone, but that's a total guess.

[appgrad95&97]

I guess this is my point (and I'll admit I may be wrong). If there is no G5 team in the final AP poll and we win the Sunbelt and finish with the most votes outside the top 25, do we get the auto NY6 bid?

I'm not sure what the process is if no G5 team is ranked. I'd imagine that the committee would "select" someone, but that's a total guess.

That makes sense. But the committee would be under no obligation to "select" the G5 conference champion with the most votes. There is a real distinction between the 25th ranked team and the highest among "others receiving votes".

[Rick83]

It's the same concept that the committee doesn't have to select the top 4 teams in the AP poll for the playoffs, it's their judgement. So, they'd pick the top G5 team from the 5 G5 champions, based on their judgement.

[appgrad95&97]

It's the same concept that the committee doesn't have to select the top 4 teams in the AP poll for the playoffs, it's their judgement. So, they'd pick the top G5 team from the 5 G5 champions, based on their judgement.

They would not have too. If there is no ranked G5 champion, there might not be a G5 rep in the NY6.

[AppAlum1]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

Aw, come on man. Yer not as dumb as yer lettin' on. It's like the transitive, except slower.

I did not take all those statistics classes for nuttin.

[Rick83]

It's the same concept that the committee doesn't have to select the top 4 teams in the AP poll for the playoffs, it's their judgement. So, they'd pick the top G5 team from the 5 G5 champions, based on their judgement.

They would not have too. If there is no ranked G5 champion, there might not be a G5 rep in the NY6.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that there is a guaranteed spot for a G5 conference champion. The "rankings" used are the committee's ranking, not the AP top 25 ranking. But, like I said, I could be wrong.

[EastHallApp]

It's the same concept that the committee doesn't have to select the top 4 teams in the AP poll for the playoffs, it's their judgement. So, they'd pick the top G5 team from the 5 G5 champions, based on their judgement.

They would not have too. If there is no ranked G5 champion, there might not be a G5 rep in the NY6.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that there is a guaranteed spot for a G5 conference champion. The "rankings" used are the committee's ranking, not the AP top 25 ranking. But, like I said, I could be wrong.

This is correct. AP and coaches polls have no direct influence on the NY6. It's totally determined by the CFP rankings.

[EastHallApp]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

Funniest part about this is you are getting all pedantic about the word "ranked" and putting quotes around it... but that word does not appear at all in the post you quoted.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

Funniest part about this is you are getting all pedantic about the word "ranked" and putting quotes around it... but that word does not appear at all in the post you quoted.

[Seattleapp]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

I bet you are a blast at parties.

He’s not wrong. It’s nothing personal against you but some folks don’t love this topic.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

I bet you are a blast at parties.

He’s not wrong. It’s nothing personal against you but some folks don’t love this topic.

I didn't take it personal, just making an observation on his delivery. What's great is that we have the choice to choose which threads to read and comment on.

[appgrad95&97]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

No sir ...you're understanding of rankings is waaaaay off. Your not ranked or not ranked. South Alabama and Miami are not the same because they are not ranked. Nor are Clemson and Boise State the same because they are ranked. That ranking comes from number of received votes. We are 32nd in that voting. This thread quite accurately explains things we need to happen to be ranked. It's very normal to speculate when you will be ranked in the top 25.

That is my point. We are not "ranked" 32. There is no such thing in a top 25. Two more wins and I think we will be ranked. But we are not now.

[AppinATL]

The last time we did this we went out and got spanked by southern.

You think that was the reason we got spanked?

That game had so many reasons that piled up that you can’t say any one reason did it, but it was certainly a contributing factor. Those guys were so geeked up about having us walk in there as the first Top 25 team to visit Paulson, and well, it being us, just made them drool.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

No sir ...you're understanding of rankings is waaaaay off. Your not ranked or not ranked. South Alabama and Miami are not the same because they are not ranked. Nor are Clemson and Boise State the same because they are ranked. That ranking comes from number of received votes. We are 32nd in that voting. This thread quite accurately explains things we need to happen to be ranked. It's very normal to speculate when you will be ranked in the top 25.

That is my point. We are not "ranked" 32. There is no such thing in a top 25. Two more wins and I think we will be ranked. But we are not now.

The AP Top 25 AP poll publishes the poll with a list of others receiving votes in order from how many votes they received. App is in the 32nd spot (but not ranked). The intent of the post was to see what needs to happen in order for us to get into the top 25. I agree we are not currently ranked as you define it, but I disagree with your position that we are not 32nd. Or else why have the others receiving votes included in vote total order? And we're not pregnant, just practicing a lot!

[Rick83]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

No sir ...you're understanding of rankings is waaaaay off. Your not ranked or not ranked. South Alabama and Miami are not the same because they are not ranked. Nor are Clemson and Boise State the same because they are ranked. That ranking comes from number of received votes. We are 32nd in that voting. This thread quite accurately explains things we need to happen to be ranked. It's very normal to speculate when you will be ranked in the top 25.

That is my point. We are not "ranked" 32. There is no such thing in a top 25. Two more wins and I think we will be ranked. But we are not now.

The AP Top 25 AP poll publishes the poll with a list of others receiving votes in order from how many votes they received. App is in the 32nd spot (but not ranked). The intent of the post was to see what needs to happen in order for us to get into the top 25. I agree we are not currently ranked as you define it, but I disagree with your position that we are not 32nd. Or else why have the others receiving votes included in vote total order? And we're not pregnant, just practicing a lot!

Hey, Practice makes perfect!

[appstatealum]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

No sir ...you're understanding of rankings is waaaaay off. Your not ranked or not ranked. South Alabama and Miami are not the same because they are not ranked. Nor are Clemson and Boise State the same because they are ranked. That ranking comes from number of received votes. We are 32nd in that voting. This thread quite accurately explains things we need to happen to be ranked. It's very normal to speculate when you will be ranked in the top 25.

That is my point. We are not "ranked" 32. There is no such thing in a top 25. Two more wins and I think we will be ranked. But we are not now.

We got it. The reality is, the AP poll doesn’t mean squat for anyone. So, by your rationale, it doesn’t matter that Clemson is ranked number 1.

For football fans, there are polls all over the place ranking most relevant teams, and sometimes all of the teams. As far as the AP is concerned, we are 32. People only focus on the Top 25, but they aren’t the only ones literally ranked. Here is a link for you:

https://collegepolltracker.com/football/

[appgrad95&97]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

I bet you are a blast at parties.

He’s not wrong. It’s nothing personal against you but some folks don’t love this topic.

I didn't take it personal, just making an observation on his delivery. What's great is that we have the choice to choose which threads to read and comment on.

I don't take anything on a message board personally. I just, in good faith, don't think a team can be "ranked" outside the top 25. Others may disagree, in what I assume is good faith.

My only point is that polls are what they are. They are a consensus opinion. And there is not currently a consensus that App is a top 25 team.

[EastHallApp]

The last time we did this we went out and got spanked by southern.

You think that was the reason we got spanked?

That game had so many reasons that piled up that you can’t say any one reason did it, but it was certainly a contributing factor. Those guys were so geeked up about having us walk in there as the first Top 25 team to visit Paulson, and well, it being us, just made them drool.

Sounds like the solution is for us never to get ranked again, just to make sure we never give an opponent extra motivation.

[Yosefus]

No mention of Memphis. They could pass us up. They have a very doable schedule to win out as well

[AppStFan1]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

Obviously the fact someone did this last year is not why we got spanked but it did happen. I think the injuries hurt us but we were going to get ranked anyway. Our team was not focused. It reminded me of when we beat Michigan.

I'm with others. Let's just keep winning and not waste threads speculating. None of what you said matters if we lose. I also think Memphis should have been mentioned.

We should only care if we finish the season ranked and it is a long way to go. We have 4-5 games we could possibly lose. I'll be mad if we lose them but we have opponents worthy of our respect. I don't know about you but being ranked in one week in October is not my concern. I want to have a long streak of it and be known as a consistently ranked team who finishes the season there.