Time management

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppinATL » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:18 pm

NewApp wrote:
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I wanna hear the pathetic reasoning for Satterfields time management at the end of the first half. (He has done this many times) We lose games because when we have chances to gain leads and put teams away we don’t. Anyone who has ever coached at any level or sport knows that the longer you let a team hang around you give them hope and hope late in games leads to adrenaline and legs on a tired team arnt so heavy when they have hope.
Dude.....shutup.....
I don't want to tee anybody off or hurt feelings, but Todd, I agree with you 110%. Sure mistakes were made and things could have been done differently and there are different strategies various coaches and fans would have done differently, but Geez, we won by 21 points to a team which may be almost as good as we are. Some of us had some real fears about not having a good game by being rusty from the lay-off.

Too, we may have shown Charlie Cobb that he made a mistake in leaving our fine program (that he himself helped build). He may feel he likes where he is, but by gosh, he should realize again that there is no place like Boone.
Not to put too fine a point on it but f—- Charlie. He took off because he was wearing out his welcome anyway, most likely. Plus what does it matter? We got a better model in the deal.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by GoBoone » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:27 pm

Charlie was a stepping stone.....for us to get to a class act like DG.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by Goapps15 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:48 pm

Talked with multiple fans at the game at half time about the time management. Many of which are very positive fans. However they agreed with me on the fact that Satts time management wouldn't cut it in the P5.

That being said, glad he is our coach. He thoroughly out coached Shawn.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppinATL » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:05 pm

Goapps15 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:48 pm
Talked with multiple fans at the game at half time about the time management. Many of which are very positive fans. However they agreed with me on the fact that Satts time management wouldn't cut it in the P5.

That being said, glad he is our coach. He thoroughly out coached Shawn.
I agree. I hope we can keep Satterfield for a long long time. But how he handles the end of the first half time and tome again, makes no damn sense. If you’re going to play it safe and run out the clock, fine. Thats a valid decision and up to him. But why call a time out before GSU punts, then run 3 plays that burn clock and waste massive amounts of time in between only to call another timeout? It looks like he cant decide what he wants to do.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppStateMtneer » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:15 pm

Conservative aggressiveness

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Re: Time management

Unread post by 85gradinATL » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:20 pm

The main reason was probably that we hadn't thrown the ball very well to that point and if we throw incomplete passes on 2nd and 3rd down, Ga State gets the ball back. So many people on here think just because you run a hurry up it's always going to work. That's not reality.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:50 pm

It was an extremely conservative approach at the end of the half. I also felt we would have been better off trying to score some points. It’s not like we had any reason to be scared to punt back to them if it came to that. Only thing I could think is that our passing game had been struggling in the first half, so maybe Satt didn’t have confidence to call those plays at that point.

One minor nit: I wouldn’t call that situation a clock management issue. It was more like a conscious decision to just run out the clock rather than trying to score. Same thing we did against GS until Lamb broke the big run.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by App91 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:52 pm

proasu89 wrote:
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it’s negative to ask questions?
On this board it its. The sunshine squad wont allow it.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by App91 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:55 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:56 pm
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Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:48 pm
biggie wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:50 pm
To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
No room for theatrics when you're trying to win a game. No reason to fire the opposition up just to show your butt on the field. It may have been a petty call, but we deserved it. It could have made a difference in the call.
It was a weak call. If a guy stands over a player or does that in someone’s face that’s different. Barely did anything really. As for picking apart coaching. For crying out loud we won and we have 2 games left. Just win 2 more - 9 wins is great any year.
But why do it at all? be better than that. especially a senior leader. Just why?

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Re: Time management

Unread post by appsfan » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:25 pm

3rd wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:32 pm
I wanna hear the pathetic reasoning for Satterfields time management at the end of the first half. (He has done this many times) We lose games because when we have chances to gain leads and put teams away we don’t. Anyone who has ever coached at any level or sport knows that the longer you let a team hang around you give them hope and hope late in games leads to adrenaline and legs on a tired team arnt so heavy when they have hope.
Here's my idea as to why: We were receiving the 2nd half kick off. He was being conservative and was trying to see if we could break a run or two before becoming more aggressive with our play calling. The main thing was to avoid a turnover which could set up a late in the half GaSt score (Especially with a couple of INTs already.) It worked out fine when we scored to open the 3rd quarter.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:38 pm

86App wrote:
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Got a kicker, now we need a punter? I get the rugby thing on a short field, but you need to be able to boom it out of your own end zone.
We have two very good kickers. The difference is one has confidence in his abilities, the other is struggling at the moment.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:01 pm

AppinATL wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:05 pm
Goapps15 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:48 pm
Talked with multiple fans at the game at half time about the time management. Many of which are very positive fans. However they agreed with me on the fact that Satts time management wouldn't cut it in the P5.

That being said, glad he is our coach. He thoroughly out coached Shawn.
I agree. I hope we can keep Satterfield for a long long time. But how he handles the end of the first half time and tome again, makes no damn sense. If you’re going to play it safe and run out the clock, fine. Thats a valid decision and up to him. But why call a time out before GSU punts, then run 3 plays that burn clock and waste massive amounts of time in between only to call another timeout? It looks like he cant decide what he wants to do.
Thinking like a coach here, but you have to think that Ga St is going to play to defend the pass. This might open up a shot for a long run. It didn’t so you have now run the clock down to either get the ball into field goal range, or leave no time on the clock. A lot goes through the mind of the coach during a game and you have to trust that he has a plan.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by CornCobPipes » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:12 pm

86App wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:53 pm
Got a kicker, now we need a punter? I get the rugby thing on a short field, but you need to be able to boom it out of your own end zone.
I AGREE....I second that!
KICK ASS!!!

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Re: Time management

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:18 pm

App91 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:55 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:56 pm
NewApp wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:48 pm
biggie wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:50 pm
To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
No room for theatrics when you're trying to win a game. No reason to fire the opposition up just to show your butt on the field. It may have been a petty call, but we deserved it. It could have made a difference in the call.
It was a weak call. If a guy stands over a player or does that in someone’s face that’s different. Barely did anything really. As for picking apart coaching. For crying out loud we won and we have 2 games left. Just win 2 more - 9 wins is great any year.
But why do it at all? be better than that. especially a senior leader. Just why?
Because sports are supposed to be fun. These kids aren't robots. We want them to play with passion and enjoy themselves.

I get the "Why do it at all?" reaction with borderline plays, but that wasn't even borderline. There was zero reason to expect he would draw a penalty for that. Just a terrible call.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:48 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:18 pm
App91 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:55 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:56 pm
NewApp wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:48 pm
biggie wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:50 pm
To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
No room for theatrics when you're trying to win a game. No reason to fire the opposition up just to show your butt on the field. It may have been a petty call, but we deserved it. It could have made a difference in the call.
It was a weak call. If a guy stands over a player or does that in someone’s face that’s different. Barely did anything really. As for picking apart coaching. For crying out loud we won and we have 2 games left. Just win 2 more - 9 wins is great any year.
But why do it at all? be better than that. especially a senior leader. Just why?
Because sports are supposed to be fun. These kids aren't robots. We want them to play with passion and enjoy themselves.

I get the "Why do it at all?" reaction with borderline plays, but that wasn't even borderline. There was zero reason to expect he would draw a penalty for that. Just a terrible call.
I didn’t see anything in his gesture that it was directed at anyone, or even towards the play. But given the close proximity of the official to Boggs, could he have said something?

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Re: Time management

Unread post by proasu89 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:05 am

85gradinATL wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:20 pm
The main reason was probably that we hadn't thrown the ball very well to that point and if we throw incomplete passes on 2nd and 3rd down, Ga State gets the ball back. So many people on here think just because you run a hurry up it's always going to work. That's not reality.
Understand completely, I think what most are asking is then why call 2 timeouts with the first being with 13 seconds left?

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Re: Time management

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:42 am

proasu89 wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:05 am
85gradinATL wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:20 pm
The main reason was probably that we hadn't thrown the ball very well to that point and if we throw incomplete passes on 2nd and 3rd down, Ga State gets the ball back. So many people on here think just because you run a hurry up it's always going to work. That's not reality.
Understand completely, I think what most are asking is then why call 2 timeouts with the first being with 13 seconds left?
Because at that point you can throw the ball across the middle and hope for a large enough gain to set up Staton for a FG attempt.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by APPRIDE » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:57 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:42 am
proasu89 wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:05 am
85gradinATL wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:20 pm
The main reason was probably that we hadn't thrown the ball very well to that point and if we throw incomplete passes on 2nd and 3rd down, Ga State gets the ball back. So many people on here think just because you run a hurry up it's always going to work. That's not reality.
Understand completely, I think what most are asking is then why call 2 timeouts with the first being with 13 seconds left?
Because at that point you can throw the ball across the middle and hope for a large enough gain to set up Staton for a FG attempt.
Most concise correct answer yet, imo...it's getting aggressive at a time point that can bite you in the a** the least but still have a chance at a payoff...just like kicking the 53 ydr. before the 1/2 in the GS game...
I think we should be more aggressive earlier in the possession if we start at least closer to mid field.

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Re: Time management

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:08 am

App91 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:52 pm
proasu89 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:51 pm
it’s negative to ask questions?
On this board it its. The sunshine squad wont allow it.
As President of the Sunshine Squad I disavow the above statement from my buddy 91 - One item to remember is that I see the glass 3/4 full and 91 sees it as 9/10 empty - :D
Anyway, I think this is a legitimate question - time management - Coach Satterfield is too good a coach to not "to have a clue what he is doing in time management" - I do agree it is not his strongest area - My thought is he just hasn't quite decided on a defined strategy, now this could be because of several factors, such as injuries to RB/WR in a particular game, etc., --- as for yesterday, there did seem to be some confusion as how to approach the situation - As some have mentioned, the one thing NOT to let happen is a turnover and that was accomplished, however I do agree that 20-30 seconds were lost because of (I don't know why) - Anyway, no mistake was made that could have cost the game and the 2nd half was a dominating performance!!! :!:
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Re: Time management

Unread post by ASU3432Mi » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:59 am

biggie wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:50 pm
To be fair the last baseball swing penalty was ridiculous. Never seen that called before.
...and we WERE playing in a converted baseball stadium. I thought Boggs was clever. In no way was that taunting or unsportsmanlike to the Panthers. Terrible call.

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