Problems at UT-K

[AppinVA]

What is he worth? Say he did risk damaging his God-like status in Tennessee and take the hypothetical job... I figure that he'd get a few weeks in, and one day when the alarm rings, he hits snooze and thinks to himself, "$&@(/ this, I have $150 million in the bank. I think I'll go make another Sunday Ticket commercial at the crack of noon.

[HkyMtneer]

IF Peyton Manning wanted to get into coaching - and doing so would be an unusual career path for a player of his stature - I'm not sure why anyone assumes it would be in college anyway.

I believe college coaching would be his best choice (be it as a HC or OC), at least initially, for two reasons.

1.) Recruiting: Peyton just seems to bleed honest exuberance and I think players, and especially their parents, would be begging to sign on the line when Peyton Manning looks them in the eye, in that down-home Cajun drawl, and says "send me your son and I'll take care of him and send him back a better man".

2.) QB's: I find it hard to believe that every pro-style traditional high school QB in the country wouldn't sleep in a barn for 4 years if it meant #18 was the guy molding them every day. And as we all know in today's game...it all starts with the Quarterback.

[EastHallApp]

IF Peyton Manning wanted to get into coaching - and doing so would be an unusual career path for a player of his stature - I'm not sure why anyone assumes it would be in college anyway.

I believe college coaching would be his best choice (be it as a HC or OC), at least initially, for two reasons.

1.) Recruiting: Peyton just seems to bleed honest exuberance and I think players, and especially their parents, would be begging to sign on the line when Peyton Manning looks them in the eye, in that down-home Cajun drawl, and says "send me your son and I'll take care of him and send him back a better man".

2.) QB's: I find it hard to believe that every pro-style traditional high school QB in the country wouldn't sleep in a barn for 4 years if it meant #18 was the guy molding them every day. And as we all know in today's game...it all starts with the Quarterback.

I don't doubt that he'd be effective at that, and fundraising - but that doesn't mean he'd want to expend the time required to those two responsibilities. Plus I think he's just an all-football all the time guy, so I think he'd be better suited to the NFL schedule than dealing with NCAA practice limits and all the other stuff college coaches deal with.

But really, I think it's moot. I think he's more likely to be in a TV studio and/or a boardroom than on a sideline.

[bcoach]

I doubt they'd can Butch, especially after his first 3 recruiting classes in Knoxville but...and a big but at that...should they have to pull the plug amid scandal then who better to enter on short notice and bring instant reputation (save what I believe is an ill-fated attempt to pin the man on the whole HGH deal) than Peyton Manning. I know he has repeatedly said he isn't too interested in coaching (especially being a HC), would want to take some time off, etc. but man...he'd be about as good as it gets from day one. It'd be like the second coming of Johnny Majors in Rocky Top land. It would be akin to calling Roy home to Carolina at a point when Carolina Basketball really needed him.

Bringing Peyton into arguably one of the toughest conferences as a first year coach fresh out of the NFL would be a bad decision in my opinion. Roy coached at a fairly successful Kansas team for 15 years before taking over. I know people in Knoxville love Manning, but that be one hell of a gamble for a program already showing more and more success on the field year after year.

Bringing in Manning to become HC of football at UT-K would be somewhat akin to bringing in Capel to be the HC of ASU Basketball. Manning wouldn't know where to start (just like Capel was totally overwhelmed by the workload and complexity). Just like with Capel (hiring the former HC at GWU to do the real work), UT-K would have to hire a former P5 HC as the lead assistant or associate head coach to do all of the necessary leg-work--with Manning being the back-slapping good 'ol boy to meet and greet UT-Ks big donors and the parents of recruits.

On the football field and doing game strategy work, Manning might keep his head above water until his first clashes with Alabama, Auburn and Clemson.

I'm not saying that I disagree with you on the fact that it would be a stretch to throw Peyton in the SEC fire as a HC...it would be. But, and this is a big but, to compare Peyton Manning in ANY way to Jason Capel is laughable. Truly funny stuff. I can't imagine very many questioning Peyton's intellect whereas we all know that Capel went to UNCheat soooooo. In all seriousness, Peyton would find it a tough climb (though I think he has the fortitude to handle it if given the time and right staff) at first but I imagine the resemblances to the Capel debacle would be very few. The reality is Capel only stumbled into the HC job because of 4 things, in no particular order: 1.) Right place, right time after Fuzz busted to the coast, 2.) Cost - he came cheap, 3.) Baby blue in his background gave him instant "cred" as "knowing something" about basketball...and his family experience certainly didn't hurt, and 4.) Diversity.

There was only one real reason. Incompetence.

[asu66]

IF Peyton Manning wanted to get into coaching - and doing so would be an unusual career path for a player of his stature - I'm not sure why anyone assumes it would be in college anyway.

Yep, what you said. I would think that Manning would want to parlay the body of his career success into a deal that offered him a *salary increase* over his previous high salary--in light of leading his team to a Super Bowl win. He actually took a salary decrease to play in 2015. Denver got a bargain!

I don't automatically assume that this increase would be tied to playing or coaching football. It might be in the private sector and completely out of and away from athletic pursuits.

[HighlandsApp]

Maybe Tennessee does have problems:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2530395

Manning Family cover up....

[Goapps15]

Not shocked that Manning had some dirt on him, but if this is true this is a huge problem UT has on its hands. Sounds very similar to the current situation.

[Rekdiver]

Wow, after reading this I hope Dr. wainwright finds some recourse. This is damning.

[T-Dog]

When it rains it pours.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/ ... /80538668/

[T-Dog]

A monsoon has formed over Knoxville.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/ ... /80851232/

University of Tennessee football coach Butch Jones told one of his players he “betrayed the team” after the wide receiver helped a woman who said she was raped by two other football players, according to a new legal filing in a sweeping lawsuit filed by six women against Tennessee.

Sophomore Drae Bowles “broke down and cried” after speaking with his coach, the lawsuit said.

Jones later called Bowles back to apologize for calling him “a traitor to the team,” according to the suit.

The two calls with Jones came after Bowles was punched in the mouth and bloodied by teammate Curt Maggitt as retribution inside the UT locker room, according to the new filing.

Bowles, who transferred to UT Chattanooga shortly after the November 2014 incidents, provided the account of events in a sworn declaration filed in federal court in Nashville.

A sworn declaration in federal court carries the penalty of perjury if Bowles lied, so it's not looking good on Rocky Top.

[EastHallApp]

Wow. That is ugly stuff.

[HeffnerIV]

I'm not sure Butch makes it to their Labor Day game.


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[GreatAppSt]

In light of all this, I feel maybe App should skip playing there this fall.

[Rekdiver]

Bye Bye Butch.....

[T-Dog]

Butch released a statement defending himself against the attacks on his character and said he even tried to help the young man.

His back is against the wall and he knows it.

Yesterday, Tennessee held a surreal presser with all 16 varsity head coaches (but not the AD) where they defended the culture of the program. All the coaches defended Butch and he even griped that "everything is about the alleged victims". When one reporter asked how young women would view 16 head coaches defending the culture at Tennessee, Butch gave his sympathies for the alleged victims and talked about how he educates his players.

[asu66]

"...and talked about how he educates his players."

[appbio91]

This is very disturbing. I realize the knee jerk reaction on college campuses when it come to sexual assault has swung to the extreme but the fact is to get a prosecutor to file charges there has to be enough evidence that they believe they can get a conviction. Regardless of what we perceive I believe when it comes to campus sexual assault that bar is still pretty high so this is truly a stinky situation. I see a settlement and a firing of a coach in the near future.

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[mikeyosef]

Not only Butch's future and reputation at risk, but also Peytons'. All this coming back up, with Peyton being named in a Federal lawsuit has even utk alum and sec mouthpiece Paul Finebaum talking about this not looking good for the institution, the coach or for Peyton. No way Peyton coaches there anytime soon and Butch is likely done as well. If they had a bad record the last two years and weren't expected to return to the top of the sec next season he would already be gone. And, for those of you who feel otherwise , Federal suits are not brought without careful thought aND consideration. They are, however, often times brought to make a broader point. Finally, as bad as things might have been at one point for us, we were NEVER in jeopardy of such a suit.

[WVAPPeer]

Personally I would be surprised if Butch was let go - they have been struggling in football for several years and been through several coaches - "on the field" it looks as if he has them on the right track - I would imagine there would be great pressure asserted on the powers to be to not send the Vols football back to the Vandy level ---

[bcoach]

Already bought my tickets. Not sure I am going to go. Have to put a lot of thought to this one.