Unretired?
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:11 pm
G.O.A.T.McLeansvilleAppFan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:11 pmhttps://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1503147141795045378
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Re: Unretired?
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:12 pm
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Re: Unretired?
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:22 pm
Hey - who knew - that is one thing we agree onappstate24 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:12 pmG.O.A.T.McLeansvilleAppFan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:11 pmhttps://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1503147141795045378
Let’s Goooooooo
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:46 pm
So this morning his last touchdown pass football sold for over $500K tonight it is worth about 50 bucks.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:24 pm
He probably thought of another way he could cheat during his days off.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:16 am
And just how has he cheated?
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:46 am
You mean other than working with the equipment staff to deflate the balls?
Or using stolen/illegal film to prepare? With some people saying Brady specifically requested the illegal video.
Or skirting the COVID-19 laws and hosting his own workouts at a local high school/park?
Or meeting with the coaching staff before the start of OTAs?
Just to name a few -- his most known two and his most recent two. But there are several more with his time with Bill Belicheat.
No doubt, he's talented and among (if not the) the best ever. But, if you don't think he hasn't cheated to gain an advantage, you're actively trying to not see it. There is WAY too much evidence on WAY too many occasions for it to just be happenstance every time.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:09 am
Sorry you are a hater - try recent disclosures
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/02/07/ ... -new-book/
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/02/07/ ... -new-book/
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:12 am
Where is your rebuttal for all other accusations? Again, it's happened WAY too often with WAY too much evidence to continually put it off as happenstance.WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:09 amSorry you are a hater - try recent disclosures
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/02/07/ ... -new-book/
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:33 am
Whatever - he was disciplined and sat out 4 games for doing nothing - I'm sure that video of coaches hand signals led him to another Super Bowl - the Patriots got caught and were disciplined - I don't take up for anything the Pats did - the other stuff is nit-picking - This isn't even in the same universe of something like Barry Bonds
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:46 am
For doing nothing? Because it's perfectly normal to completely destroy a 3 week old phone when it's requested to be looked at..WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:33 amWhatever - he was disciplined and sat out 4 games for doing nothing - I'm sure that video of coaches hand signals led him to another Super Bowl - the Patriots got caught and were disciplined - I don't take up for anything the Pats did - the other stuff is nit-picking - This isn't even in the same universe of something like Barry Bonds
I didn't read your link because it's behind a paywall. It's clear as day he contacted the equipment team to get the balls deflated.
The other stuff is not nit-picking. It's against the rules of the league. He's been caught doing that kind of stuff his entire career but has never been penalized for it. However, multiple others have been penalized for it during the same time. The league picks and chooses who and what they punish. They choose, majority of the time, to not punish their poster boys (Brady, Rodgers, etc).
Again, he's talented and deserves to be in the conversation of best ever. But, to say he hasn't cheated his entire career is the definition of naive.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:15 am
It wasn't behind any paywall on my pc - never subscribed to this anything close -
In January 2015, Deflategate exploded from a quiet league investigation into a nationwide story thanks to an erroneous ESPN report claiming 11 of the 12 footballs the Patriots used in the AFC Championship Game were underinflated by at least two pounds.
The report was later debunked, but it nonetheless sparked an immediate wildfire of controversy that enveloped the Patriots and later the league. The NFL levied unprecedented punishments against the team and Tom Brady for allegedly deflating game footballs, despite the fact that, following the Ideal Gas Law, the air pressure inside the balls would naturally decrease during games played in cold weather.
According to a released excerpt of an upcoming book, “Playmakers: How the NFL Really Works (And Doesn’t),” NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent leaked that initial misinformation to ESPN.
The book, written by NBC Sports’ Mike Florio, doesn’t state whether Vincent knowingly lied to ESPN. It does, however, provide more evidence that league sought to punish the Patriots instead of conducting an honest and scientific investigation.
Because the following season, the NFL started conducting air-pressure checks at the halftime of various games. None of the data collected was ever made public. According to Florio, that was intentional.
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From his reporting: “Per a source with knowledge of the situation, and as reported in Playmakers, the NFL expunged the numbers. It happened at the direct order, per the source, of NFL general counsel Jeff Pash.
“Why would the league delete the numbers? It’s simple. For cold days, the numbers were too close to the actual numbers generated by the New England footballs at halftime of the playoff game against the Colts. Which means that the numbers generated at halftime of the January 2015 AFC Championship were not evidence of cheating, but of the normal operation of air pressure inside a rubber bladder when the temperature drops. Just as it was expected.”
Florio later writes he emailed the league offering an opportunity to respond to his reporting. The NFL allegedly did not reply.
Of course you might remember he put up something like 50 points in the 2nd half with the "non-altered" balls
In January 2015, Deflategate exploded from a quiet league investigation into a nationwide story thanks to an erroneous ESPN report claiming 11 of the 12 footballs the Patriots used in the AFC Championship Game were underinflated by at least two pounds.
The report was later debunked, but it nonetheless sparked an immediate wildfire of controversy that enveloped the Patriots and later the league. The NFL levied unprecedented punishments against the team and Tom Brady for allegedly deflating game footballs, despite the fact that, following the Ideal Gas Law, the air pressure inside the balls would naturally decrease during games played in cold weather.
According to a released excerpt of an upcoming book, “Playmakers: How the NFL Really Works (And Doesn’t),” NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent leaked that initial misinformation to ESPN.
The book, written by NBC Sports’ Mike Florio, doesn’t state whether Vincent knowingly lied to ESPN. It does, however, provide more evidence that league sought to punish the Patriots instead of conducting an honest and scientific investigation.
Because the following season, the NFL started conducting air-pressure checks at the halftime of various games. None of the data collected was ever made public. According to Florio, that was intentional.
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From his reporting: “Per a source with knowledge of the situation, and as reported in Playmakers, the NFL expunged the numbers. It happened at the direct order, per the source, of NFL general counsel Jeff Pash.
“Why would the league delete the numbers? It’s simple. For cold days, the numbers were too close to the actual numbers generated by the New England footballs at halftime of the playoff game against the Colts. Which means that the numbers generated at halftime of the January 2015 AFC Championship were not evidence of cheating, but of the normal operation of air pressure inside a rubber bladder when the temperature drops. Just as it was expected.”
Florio later writes he emailed the league offering an opportunity to respond to his reporting. The NFL allegedly did not reply.
Of course you might remember he put up something like 50 points in the 2nd half with the "non-altered" balls
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:18 am
Nobody deflated the balls. This has been debunked by multiple scientists. I don't care about Brady one way or the other, but the balls were not deflated by anything other than weather and the NFL went a long way out of their way to make it look like they were.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:00 pm
Thanks for debunking that bovine feces. My question is, and I hope it is "yes," is Gronkowski coming back as well?WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:15 amIt wasn't behind any paywall on my pc - never subscribed to this anything close -
In January 2015, Deflategate exploded from a quiet league investigation into a nationwide story thanks to an erroneous ESPN report claiming 11 of the 12 footballs the Patriots used in the AFC Championship Game were underinflated by at least two pounds.
The report was later debunked, but it nonetheless sparked an immediate wildfire of controversy that enveloped the Patriots and later the league. The NFL levied unprecedented punishments against the team and Tom Brady for allegedly deflating game footballs, despite the fact that, following the Ideal Gas Law, the air pressure inside the balls would naturally decrease during games played in cold weather.
According to a released excerpt of an upcoming book, “Playmakers: How the NFL Really Works (And Doesn’t),” NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent leaked that initial misinformation to ESPN.
The book, written by NBC Sports’ Mike Florio, doesn’t state whether Vincent knowingly lied to ESPN. It does, however, provide more evidence that league sought to punish the Patriots instead of conducting an honest and scientific investigation.
Because the following season, the NFL started conducting air-pressure checks at the halftime of various games. None of the data collected was ever made public. According to Florio, that was intentional.
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From his reporting: “Per a source with knowledge of the situation, and as reported in Playmakers, the NFL expunged the numbers. It happened at the direct order, per the source, of NFL general counsel Jeff Pash.
“Why would the league delete the numbers? It’s simple. For cold days, the numbers were too close to the actual numbers generated by the New England footballs at halftime of the playoff game against the Colts. Which means that the numbers generated at halftime of the January 2015 AFC Championship were not evidence of cheating, but of the normal operation of air pressure inside a rubber bladder when the temperature drops. Just as it was expected.”
Florio later writes he emailed the league offering an opportunity to respond to his reporting. The NFL allegedly did not reply.
Of course you might remember he put up something like 50 points in the 2nd half with the "non-altered" balls
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:01 pm
Thanks for clarifying that, 89. Maybe that will quell the haters on here.appst89 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:18 amNobody deflated the balls. This has been debunked by multiple scientists. I don't care about Brady one way or the other, but the balls were not deflated by anything other than weather and the NFL went a long way out of their way to make it look like they were.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:42 pm
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:00 pm
If the NFL were run like NASCAR, the balls would have been confiscated or brought up to the correct pressure and there would have been no scandal.
NASCAR driver Richard Petty, in a 1972 newspaper article, was said to have once remarked, “If you ain’t trying to cheat a little, you ain’t likely to win much.” Also in 1972, a television character (a rodeo rider) had as his motto, “If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t trying’.” The saying became popular by the early 1990s.
NASCAR driver Richard Petty, in a 1972 newspaper article, was said to have once remarked, “If you ain’t trying to cheat a little, you ain’t likely to win much.” Also in 1972, a television character (a rodeo rider) had as his motto, “If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t trying’.” The saying became popular by the early 1990s.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:02 pm
I m to the point that I just take bending the rules, changing the rules of all sports to the benefit of the offense, and outright cheating as part of professional sports these days. To some degree they are all doing something to get ahead.
nba--carrying, no hand check, you can't breathe on star players, euro step, gather step, james harden bunny hopping 5 times without dribbling and nothing is called.
nfl has castrated defenses with all the rule changes. illegal videos, steroids/hgh, sticky fly paper receiver gloves that let a toddler make 1 handed grabs.
mlb--doctoring the ball, glove, and bat. lowering the mound, pine tar, stealing signals, mlb itself making a livelier ball. all the body armor letting batters crowd the pate, and of course the steroids/hgh that still get used.
it all just is what it is.
nba--carrying, no hand check, you can't breathe on star players, euro step, gather step, james harden bunny hopping 5 times without dribbling and nothing is called.
nfl has castrated defenses with all the rule changes. illegal videos, steroids/hgh, sticky fly paper receiver gloves that let a toddler make 1 handed grabs.
mlb--doctoring the ball, glove, and bat. lowering the mound, pine tar, stealing signals, mlb itself making a livelier ball. all the body armor letting batters crowd the pate, and of course the steroids/hgh that still get used.
it all just is what it is.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:09 pm
Then there is the NHL who doesn't have all those problems.appdaze wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:02 pmI m to the point that I just take bending the rules, changing the rules of all sports to the benefit of the offense, and outright cheating as part of professional sports these days. To some degree they are all doing something to get ahead.
nba--carrying, no hand check, you can't breathe on star players, euro step, gather step, james harden bunny hopping 5 times without dribbling and nothing is called.
nfl has castrated defenses with all the rule changes. illegal videos, steroids/hgh, sticky fly paper receiver gloves that let a toddler make 1 handed grabs.
mlb--doctoring the ball, glove, and bat. lowering the mound, pine tar, stealing signals, mlb itself making a livelier ball. all the body armor letting batters crowd the pate, and of course the steroids/hgh that still get used.
it all just is what it is.
Re: Unretired?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:23 pm
Were you being serious or sarcastic?bcoach wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:09 pmThen there is the NHL who doesn't have all those problems.appdaze wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:02 pmI m to the point that I just take bending the rules, changing the rules of all sports to the benefit of the offense, and outright cheating as part of professional sports these days. To some degree they are all doing something to get ahead.
nba--carrying, no hand check, you can't breathe on star players, euro step, gather step, james harden bunny hopping 5 times without dribbling and nothing is called.
nfl has castrated defenses with all the rule changes. illegal videos, steroids/hgh, sticky fly paper receiver gloves that let a toddler make 1 handed grabs.
mlb--doctoring the ball, glove, and bat. lowering the mound, pine tar, stealing signals, mlb itself making a livelier ball. all the body armor letting batters crowd the pate, and of course the steroids/hgh that still get used.
it all just is what it is.