APP MBB vs. UTC

[8993]

I believe Capel's record this season speaks for itself. 4 and 13. That's far from a typo. I understand having a down season or two, but three or four is a little extreme. Capel recruited these guys, not Buzz or Houston. If you can't handle the heat, which he obviously cannot, get the hell out of the kitchen.

First, do not throw your players under the bus to the media. That is not only unprofessional, but that pisses your players off and wards away future recruits. Why would a player want to come here if his coach could potentially talk **** about him to the media?

Second, if you aren't prepared to take the court, don't do it. Sit your ass at home and let one of your assistant coaches take the reins the rest of the season.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but Capel is not only a sorry coach, but he has a piss poor attitude when it comes to basketball. We don't need that kind of attitude in front of the media after every game. I'm not one to call for the firing of an employee, but if we want to get serious about competing at the highest level, get rid of him.

Just to remind you all: this seasons record: 4-13
Capel's overall record: 48-61, and we aren't even finished with this season.

[MountainMan]

Team started off with some spark, hit some baskets, and played some defense. Then, the wheels came off. Couldn't hit a shot, couldn't get a rebound, couldn't stop the Mocs. And Capel looked lost, the players seemed to ignore him, ...... game was over before the half.

Why why why, is Frank Eaves shooting so many 3 pointers? He's about 20% on the year and 1-5 tonight. Tab Hamilton 1-5 on threes tonight. Capel throws Baskin under the bus, but only plays him about 10 minutes. Spagnolo never looks polished, but I thought he played tough and hustled tonight, fought for rebounds and banged on Chatty's best player about as good as could be expected. Capel can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

Capel may be a nice guy, but he is as lost as a blind puppy in the jungle. Counting down the games till season end and Capel gets to clean out his office.

[MAD Doctor]

"You are what your record says your are."- Bill Parcells

[Goapps15]

Capel and Houston had similar records through the first three years of their coaching careers. After the second half of last season Capel deserved the chance to coach this season. It will be over after this year. Support the guys for the rest of the season they deserve it.

[Kgfish]

Capel and Houston had similar records through the first three years of their coaching careers. After the second half of last season Capel deserved the chance to coach this season. It will be over after this year. Support the guys for the rest of the season they deserve it.

There can be no comparison between Capel's four years and what HF had to deal with.

[AppDawg]

Just to remind you all: this seasons record: 4-13, 0-13 against D-I competition, including the last place rated school in D-I RPI

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[AppDawg]

Capel and Houston had similar records through the first three years of their coaching careers. After the second half of last season Capel deserved the chance to coach this season. It will be over after this year. Support the guys for the rest of the season they deserve it.

The records may be similar, but the situations were very different. HF was cleaning house after years of questionable characters brought in by buzzard. He was working to clean the program up and lay a solid foundation.

Capel has simply lost control (if he ever had it) and allowed the program to utterly fall flat on its face.

[appgrouch]

Let me try to catch up and address everything above.

1) Tommy is a SR. and played hard every time he was in there.

2) For what ever reason Baskin did not play the second half.

3) Lack of fundamentals is generally a sign that the coach did not work on the right things in preseason. It bit Houston once the year the started allowing team practices in preseason.

4) Capel/Houston:
A) Houston had a pattern, 2 -3 good years, 1 -2 disappointing, rebuilding years. If it was Houston we would be challenging of a north title this year.
B) The 2000 - 2001 team only had one really questionable character who influenced one other member of the team. We also lost Rufus that summer. We had a couple that didn't work out. But the core of that team (Noah Brown, Matt Jones, Donald Payne & Josh Shehan) was strong. The next year we added Bunn, Carson, Hall & McFarland and we had turned the corner.
C) Houston WON the North Title his 3rd year (02-03)

[hapapp]

We saw what throwing players under the bus did for the women's team last year. It is a sure way to lose the team, if that hasn't already happened.

We need a coach who is going to put a fundamentally sound team on the floor. I don't care if he is an experienced coach or a young guy working his way up. If the team can play fundamentally sound basketball, they will compete. We haven't had that for a while. I don't doubt Capel's effort or desire, I'm not sure we can judge that from a distance but the results speak for themselves. We need a new direction. That said, I see no point in disparaging the person. We do need to keep some perspective.

[YesAppCan]

Wow. Did anyone catch Capel's postgame talk with Randy Jackson? He threw Baskin under the bus, stopped back up, and rolled right over him again. Said that seniors have to lead, that UTC's senior put the team on his back, that we only have one, and he acted like he didn't want to play. He didn't want to talk to Randy and was looking everywhere but at him during the interview. He really needs to go. I know he's frustrated, but that was a piss poor attitude to take with the media.

The wheels have come off the bus, it has gone thru the guardrail and over the cliff. These kids no longer want to play for this guy. Tige commented how the guys were looking to the bench to see if they should foul in the last few minutes. That tells me Capel has brow beat these guys to such an extent they are afraid to do anything without his prompting. That is stuff you learn in Sat Rec League.

"Fish", I have to agree... I think the kids are so brow beat they are losing THEIR own instincts. It is a fundamentals problem---but one that has been driven into their heads that they are to do what coach says. BTW, Capel should have been directing what he wanted them to do anyway---every coach does it.

[T-Dog]

At least Fancher had a near-100% graduation rate with his 50% win record.

Also, Fancher gets a mulligan for his first year with what happened to Rufus plus the aftermath and the "five and eight rule" that has since been scrapped.

[Bowie89]

Glad to see Coach Fancher getting a little respect on here. As I've read the posts describing what App needs as a head coach I keep thinking, "we had that." As was earlier pointed out, Fancher regularly competed for conference titles. I think at this level that is what we should hope for. 1 or 2 years on top of the conference, 2 or 3 years to rebuild another group that plays together. Combine that with being a fantastic person and running a great program I think Fancher was great for ASU. And then compounding that dismissal with the blatant disrespect to McMahon, seems like all the troubles go back to one person.

[JTApps1]

Capel and Houston had similar records through the first three years of their coaching careers. After the second half of last season Capel deserved the chance to coach this season. It will be over after this year. Support the guys for the rest of the season they deserve it.

The records may be similar, but the situations were very different. HF was cleaning house after years of questionable characters brought in by buzzard. He was working to clean the program up and lay a solid foundation.

Capel has simply lost control (if he ever had it) and allowed the program to utterly fall flat on its face.

Not to mention the best returning player died in the off season before Houston even got started. To make things worse the NCAA had the 8-5 rule in place then so we didn't have 13 scholarship players for his first 2 years.

Capel on the other hand had the majority of a 24 win team coming back, and had back to back Pre-Season POY candidates to work with.

[Seattleapp]

Capel and Houston had similar records through the first three years of their coaching careers. After the second half of last season Capel deserved the chance to coach this season. It will be over after this year. Support the guys for the rest of the season they deserve it.

you couldn't be more wrong. This isn't a Y league