Respect

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No doubt!

Gonzo wrote:Respect

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Reading the comments some of the Bama folks thought Western played dirty.

Herbstreit is an idiot and a dork. I stopped watching Gameday years ago, his opinions being much of the reason. I'm glad Speir said this, and I'm sure that the whole "cupcake" episode from 2007 factored in to his comments.

BeauFoster wrote:Herbstreit is an idiot and a dork. I stopped watching Gameday years ago, his opinions being much of the reason. I'm glad Speir said this, and I'm sure that the whole "cupcake" episode from 2007 factored in to his comments.

You are so right. He is such an elitist. Coach Speir's comments were spot on.

WOW! Speir is stepping his game way up. Way to roll Mark!

I don't understand what's so controversial about this. Herbstreit has an opinion that millions of others share. Don't agree with him? Okay. I don't necessarily think he's completely wrong, either. WCU only played Bama because WCU needs money and Bama needed a game that was as close to a bye-week as possible. I am friends with Bama season ticket holders and they didn't even think twice about going to this game. Bama fans don't want these games. Is it really a big deal to say these games shouldn't happen? I know we benefited from money games when we were in the SoCon but I just don't understand the outrage people have when Herbstreit says FBS shouldn't play FCS.

APPARJ wrote:I don't understand what's so controversial about this. Herbstreit has an opinion that millions of others share. Don't agree with him? Okay. I don't necessarily think he's completely wrong, either. WCU only played Bama because WCU needs money and Bama needed a game that was as close to a bye-week as possible. I am friends with Bama season ticket holders and they didn't even think twice about going to this game. Bama fans don't want these games. Is it really a big deal to say these games shouldn't happen? I know we benefited from money games when we were in the SoCon but I just don't understand the outrage people have when Herbstreit says FBS shouldn't play FCS.

To me its not that he said FCS shouldn't play FBS. Its that he openly mocks FCS schools and those he deems unworthy to play on the holy grounds of major college football. I agree with Speir. He coaches kids who are there to get an education but are being belittled on national TV by a bully who has never coached on been in Westerns position. Don't forget that app still falls under his umbrella of those unworthy to play the major schools. It bugs me the most when I turn on sports center and I see the same power 5 replays all day long. Go back an look at how uninterested the "gameday" announcers are in fargo. they don't care about NDSU their producers wanted that location. I would love to see whats going on with other schools and even be filled in on the FCS playoffs if they had the time.

I also am glad Mark ripped into Cupcake. He's never coached, is 0-for against Michigan (ASU is 1-1) and as others stated he has his "holier than thou" attitude towards FCS schools in general. Sure, we're now FBS now but say what you will: we established ourselves in the FCS world and I dare anyone to pooh-pooh the SoCon titles, national titles, and the rings that go with that.

It's all about respect for opponents. I've always said that ASU should take on anyone, anytime, anywhere. Never disrespect or underestimate an opponent or it will bite you on the arse. Just ask Clemson basketball about WInthrop and Gardner-Webb!

Way to go Coach Speir!!! - I love it!!! --- this is going to make my wife's day when she reads it - She held a sign during the 3rd Championship Game which said - HAVE YOU HEARD OF US NOW - HERBIE ---
She was yelling at him yesterday when he was making those comments ---

APPARJ wrote:I don't understand what's so controversial about this. Herbstreit has an opinion that millions of others share. Don't agree with him? Okay. I don't necessarily think he's completely wrong, either. WCU only played Bama because WCU needs money and Bama needed a game that was as close to a bye-week as possible. I am friends with Bama season ticket holders and they didn't even think twice about going to this game. Bama fans don't want these games. Is it really a big deal to say these games shouldn't happen? I know we benefited from money games when we were in the SoCon but I just don't understand the outrage people have when Herbstreit says FBS shouldn't play FCS.

If you want App to continue playing at the highest level you should be concerned. ESPN has started a somewhat salient compaign to get their wish of a P5 only division. They downgrade all G5s and lump them with the FCS. Next year they will start giving more love to the FCS TV with an "FCS" kickoff game. They will dangle a carrot in a few years for us to relive the late 70's early 80's.

NEVER FORGET WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!!!!

hapapp wrote:

Gonzo wrote:Respect

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Reading the comments some of the Bama folks thought Western played dirty.

I guess BAMA & The SEC play like angels?

Saint3333 wrote:

APPARJ wrote:I don't understand what's so controversial about this. Herbstreit has an opinion that millions of others share. Don't agree with him? Okay. I don't necessarily think he's completely wrong, either. WCU only played Bama because WCU needs money and Bama needed a game that was as close to a bye-week as possible. I am friends with Bama season ticket holders and they didn't even think twice about going to this game. Bama fans don't want these games. Is it really a big deal to say these games shouldn't happen? I know we benefited from money games when we were in the SoCon but I just don't understand the outrage people have when Herbstreit says FBS shouldn't play FCS.

If you want App to continue playing at the highest level you should be concerned. ESPN has started a somewhat salient compaign to get their wish of a P5 only division. They downgrade all G5s and lump them with the FCS. Next year they will start giving more love to the FCS TV with an "FCS" kickoff game. They will dangle a carrot in a few years for us to relive the late 70's early 80's.

I have been saying this for a while and it's only more blatant with the recent formation or reshaping of the college football landscape. There is a cartel or money grab between the 3 & 4 letter networks/ P5s. If you are not one of them, tough shilooski sniffing the BIG money or a Championship, it ain't happening. If you aren't P5, you are a bastard child in the college football world. Just let the networks tell you how great the P5 is, the SEC especially.

APP is much better off than being in the SmallCon, but I sure miss being able to play for a national championship

The problem is not that Herbstreit has an unpopular opinion. No, fans of P5 schools don't want the games. The problem is the way he denigrates the smaller programs and just his general level of douchebaggery.

APPARJ wrote:I don't understand what's so controversial about this. Herbstreit has an opinion that millions of others share. Don't agree with him? Okay. I don't necessarily think he's completely wrong, either. WCU only played Bama because WCU needs money and Bama needed a game that was as close to a bye-week as possible. I am friends with Bama season ticket holders and they didn't even think twice about going to this game. Bama fans don't want these games. Is it really a big deal to say these games shouldn't happen? I know we benefited from money games when we were in the SoCon but I just don't understand the outrage people have when Herbstreit says FBS shouldn't play FCS.

When he speaks on this matter, I hear a commentator that either speaks from a position of being without knowledge or knowing all of the facts and omitting the ones that don't help his case. We all know that these games exist to help support smaller programs fund their athletic budgets and Corso brought that up. Herbie's solution was to pay the schools toff and not play the game. He either is an elitist or he is stupid for not understanding the picture. I think that it would be a great grass roots effort to write Arthur Blank at Home Depot and tell him that we will no longer watch Gameday or support his company has long as they sponsor the show. If money drives the bus that would certainly make the point.

AppSt94 wrote:

APPARJ wrote:I don't understand what's so controversial about this. Herbstreit has an opinion that millions of others share. Don't agree with him? Okay. I don't necessarily think he's completely wrong, either. WCU only played Bama because WCU needs money and Bama needed a game that was as close to a bye-week as possible. I am friends with Bama season ticket holders and they didn't even think twice about going to this game. Bama fans don't want these games. Is it really a big deal to say these games shouldn't happen? I know we benefited from money games when we were in the SoCon but I just don't understand the outrage people have when Herbstreit says FBS shouldn't play FCS.

When he speaks on this matter, I hear a commentator that either speaks from a position of being without knowledge or knowing all of the facts and omitting the ones that son't help his case. We all know that these games exist to help support smaller programs fund their athletic budgets and Corso brought that up. Herbie's solution was to pay the schools toff and not play the game. He either is an elitist or he is stupid for not understanding the picture. I think that it would be a great grass roots effort to write Arthur Blank at Home Depot and tell him that we will no longer watch Gameday or support his company has long as they sponsor the show. If money drives the bus that would certainly make the point.

Gameday has steadily lost viewers in the last 5 or so years. I looked it up earlier this season in reference to corporate sponsorship $. They've tried some new things to spice it up, this may be another thing dictated from the top. Kirk may be told to say controversial things to drum up viewers.

Sadly you may be right. It is a shame that sensationalism and controversy are the tools of the trade is digital media.

hapapp wrote:

Gonzo wrote:Respect

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Reading the comments some of the Bama folks thought Western played dirty.

Their probably juts mad that Western actually made them play

Herbsteit wasn't told to do anything.... comments just stand on their own.. Stupid is as stupid does. He should keep his pie hole shut until he's actually been a coach. Now I've gone and insulted perfectly good pie holes....