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Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:06 pm
by hapapp
Phil Steele not impressed with the Rock in terms of home field advantage.
http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2014/AU ... ust23.html
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:36 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
I would love to see something analyze what he write predictions with what happens and do so for some years back. How good is he or is his analysis as much of a crap shot as mine would be?
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:47 pm
by IGgreer
Phil Steele is the best in the business. His college football mag is a must have if you are a college football fan. Excited to see a black and gold page in there this year.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:30 pm
by NewApp
What in the Heck?
"The smallest capacity is Idaho’s Kibbie Dome which seated just 16,000 and they received a 0 in that category. The rest of the capacities are done with a simple equation of Capacity-16,000 divided by 15,650. The reason I divide by 15,650 is that Michigan at 109,901-16,000 = 93,901 and 93,901 divided by 6 (0-6 scale) = 15,650. You can figure out what your favorite team is graded in this category by using this simple equation.
The second category is actual attendance reported by the school in 2013. Once again Michigan was at the top with 111,592
and this time the team at the bottom was Eastern Michigan, which averaged just 4,051 fans per game last year.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:31 pm
by GoApps70
Phil Steele cannot even get even simple facts right:
"Georgia St, Idaho and Massachusetts who have won just 3 home games in the last 3 years."
Not true.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:24 pm
by Black Saturday
Without reading Phil's article, I'm not very impressed either over the last few years, we've choked on some easy teams, as well as lost to some big games in which we looked like we had no clue, but more talent. Hoping that'll start to turn over the next few seasons.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:30 pm
by hapapp
Black Saturday wrote:
Without reading Phil's article, I'm not very impressed either over the last few years, we've choked on some easy teams, as well as lost to some big games in which we looked like we had no clue, but more talent. Hoping that'll start to turn over the next few seasons.
Ga Southern is rated significantly higher than we are. And some of his calculations are based on attendance and attendance v. capacity, which would likely be in our favor compared to some who seem to rank higher than we do.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:32 pm
by Gonzo
What a hack. The guys never been to Boone.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:10 pm
by T-Dog
For those who say numbers never lie, that's not true. Any number besides other final score can lie and distort the matte-of-fact truth.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:48 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
IGgreer wrote:Phil Steele is the best in the business. His college football mag is a must have if you are a college football fan. Excited to see a black and gold page in there this year.
The best can still be a POS, just that everyone else is an even bigger POS with predictions.

Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:24 pm
by wncapp78
Just a personal observation. Duke and Temple seem out of place. And i believe our atmosphere as a HFA is equal to Wake and Marshall over the past five years.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:17 pm
by IGgreer
What preseason magazine do you geniuses get all of your info? Maybe I should switch...
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:38 pm
by Rekdiver
This is nice if you have nothing else to talk about. We have no FBS home field advantage to measure anyway. We have to build one starting this year.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:38 am
by NewApp
Rekdiver wrote:This is nice if you have nothing else to talk about. We have no FBS home field advantage to measure anyway. We have to build one starting this year.
We should be able to since some of the teams won't match us on the road attendance wise compared to what we will draw at home.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:49 am
by Maddog1956
I can't buy into a system that ranks Duke over us for home field advantage. We have a over full stadium of screaming students and fans, and the Duke fans are waiting for basketball to get here.
I guess his "magic #" (how it sound on TV) doesn't work for teams that are not on TV or not filmed by the networks "A" team.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:59 am
by EastHallApp
IGgreer wrote:What preseason magazine do you geniuses get all of your info? Maybe I should switch...
People still buy magazines?
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:08 am
by Rekdiver
Thought those were for ammo
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:23 am
by Saint3333
If you used his formula at the end of the 2005-2010 seasons we'd all agree with the formula.
Win home games and the factor goes up.
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:01 am
by Maddog1956
Saint3333 wrote:If you used his formula at the end of the 2005-2010 seasons we'd all agree with the formula.
Win home games and the factor goes up.
I would still question how he factors in w/l record, after any season. If he's trying to decide Home Field Advantage it would seem he would have to consider Home W/L's vs Away W/L's (and really that's about all he would have to consider). How many seats there are or butts in the seats don't really matter if it doesn't translate to more wins at home vs away. Or that's what I understand Home Field Advantage to mean.
I think what he's trying to calculate is "loudest fans/stadium" or something and using a "W's" for some indication that teams with a winning record should be louder or something (which we know isn't necessarily true).
Re: Home Field Advantage
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:25 am
by Rekdiver
Does he factor weather? non of those deep south fellas play in the cold much,,,,,,,,,