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Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:01 pm
by T-Dog
Before anyone gets mad, this is not an extra timeout, according to other reports, and should get rid of a PAT-timeout-kickoff-timeout.

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2024/4/19/med ... tball.aspx

In games involving Football Bowl Subdivision teams, each school will have the option to use coach-to-player communications through the helmet to one player on the field. That player will be identified by having a green dot on the back midline of the player's helmet.

The communication from the coach to the player will be turned off with 15 seconds remaining on the play clock or when the ball is snapped, whichever comes first.

For all three divisions, teams have the option of using tablets to view in-game video only. The video can include the broadcast feed and camera angles from the coach's sideline and coach's end zone.

Teams can have up to 18 active tablets for use in the coaching booth, sideline and locker room. Tablets cannot be connected to other devices to project larger additional images and cannot include analytics, data or data access capability or other communication access. All team personnel will be allowed to view the tablets during the game. 


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The panel approved adding an automatic timeout when two minutes remain in the second and fourth quarters. 

This rules change synchronizes all timing rules, such as 10-second runoffs and stopping the clock when a first down is gained in bounds, which coincides with the two-minute timeout.

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Commence discussion about how the game is ruined.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:41 pm
by appdaze
College is so painfully far behind on incorporating technology to the sport.

Better communication leads to less miscommunication on plays that lead to busted plays that lead to injuries. Put the mics in all the helmets so position coaches can talk to the players between posessions. This could lower the need for timeouts and help players fix fundamental issues mid game decreasing injury potential.

There is no good reason their ipads shouldn't be hooked up to video, data,stats and other info they are saying they shouldn't be. This is 2024 not 1924.

Shoot, give the coaches meta quests for augmented reality. Let them see stats hovering above players heads. Coaches could see lines on the fields where players should be running for each play etc...

We aren't quite to it yet but we aren't far away from having players visors be augmented reality with lines showing them their routes. Even if you didn't use them in games, use them in practices. Embrace the tech to make players better.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:52 pm
by AppSt94
appdaze wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:41 pm
College is so painfully far behind on incorporating technology to the sport.

Better communication leads to less miscommunication on plays that lead to busted plays that lead to injuries. Put the mics in all the helmets so position coaches can talk to the players between posessions. This could lower the need for timeouts and help players fix fundamental issues mid game decreasing injury potential.

There is no good reason their ipads shouldn't be hooked up to video, data,stats and other info they are saying they shouldn't be. This is 2024 not 1924.

Shoot, give the coaches meta quests for augmented reality. Let them see stats hovering above players heads. Coaches could see lines on the fields where players should be running for each play etc...

We aren't quite to it yet but we aren't far away from having players visors be augmented reality with lines showing them their routes. Even if you didn't use them in games, use them in practices. Embrace the tech to make players better.
Do we reach a point where we are asking “ how much is too much?” The implementation of analytics into decision-making and strategy is luke warm and frustrating to some.

As to the extra timeouts. Have the networks signed off on this?

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:11 pm
by MrCraig
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:52 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:41 pm
College is so painfully far behind on incorporating technology to the sport.

Better communication leads to less miscommunication on plays that lead to busted plays that lead to injuries. Put the mics in all the helmets so position coaches can talk to the players between posessions. This could lower the need for timeouts and help players fix fundamental issues mid game decreasing injury potential.

There is no good reason their ipads shouldn't be hooked up to video, data,stats and other info they are saying they shouldn't be. This is 2024 not 1924.

Shoot, give the coaches meta quests for augmented reality. Let them see stats hovering above players heads. Coaches could see lines on the fields where players should be running for each play etc...

We aren't quite to it yet but we aren't far away from having players visors be augmented reality with lines showing them their routes. Even if you didn't use them in games, use them in practices. Embrace the tech to make players better.
Do we reach a point where we are asking “ how much is too much?” The implementation of analytics into decision-making and strategy is luke warm and frustrating to some.

As to the extra timeouts. Have the networks signed off on this?
Anyone "Luke warm" about using statistics and analytics to guide decisions is foolish. Why would you not use statistical data to improve team performance?

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:11 pm
by mike87
Why even play the game? We could run simulations based on the statistical inputs and watch virtual reality games. No more NIL too.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:29 pm
by AppSt94
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:11 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:52 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:41 pm
College is so painfully far behind on incorporating technology to the sport.

Better communication leads to less miscommunication on plays that lead to busted plays that lead to injuries. Put the mics in all the helmets so position coaches can talk to the players between posessions. This could lower the need for timeouts and help players fix fundamental issues mid game decreasing injury potential.

There is no good reason their ipads shouldn't be hooked up to video, data,stats and other info they are saying they shouldn't be. This is 2024 not 1924.

Shoot, give the coaches meta quests for augmented reality. Let them see stats hovering above players heads. Coaches could see lines on the fields where players should be running for each play etc...

We aren't quite to it yet but we aren't far away from having players visors be augmented reality with lines showing them their routes. Even if you didn't use them in games, use them in practices. Embrace the tech to make players better.
Do we reach a point where we are asking “ how much is too much?” The implementation of analytics into decision-making and strategy is luke warm and frustrating to some.

As to the extra timeouts. Have the networks signed off on this?
Anyone "Luke warm" about using statistics and analytics to guide decisions is foolish. Why would you not use statistical data to improve team performance?
I completely agree. Just some people equate the execution as the result of the call.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:46 pm
by Mjohn1988
mike87 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:11 pm
Why even play the game? We could run simulations based on the statistical inputs and watch virtual reality games. No more NIL too.
Sounds crazy but it’s not going to really shock me to see it happen. People are losing interest in reality.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:53 pm
by Black Saturday
Wouldn’t surprise me that the highly successful P5 teams have already been covertly communicating with electronics to players during games.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:28 pm
by scatman77
Black Saturday wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:53 pm
Wouldn’t surprise me that the highly successful P5 teams have already been covertly communicating with electronics to players during games.
Regarding the use of devices not being connected to other/larger ones: the NFHS has allowed that in the high schools for 10 years or more. My school had tablets and flat screen TVs on the sidelines. The TVs got feeds from the tablets on top of the press box.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:18 pm
by Cro-Magnon App
And Johnny Unitas called his own plays - drew them up on the field sometimes. Fun to watch.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:22 am
by Black Saturday
scatman77 wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:28 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:53 pm
Wouldn’t surprise me that the highly successful P5 teams have already been covertly communicating with electronics to players during games.
Regarding the use of devices not being connected to other/larger ones: the NFHS has allowed that in the high schools for 10 years or more. My school had tablets and flat screen TVs on the sidelines. The TVs got feeds from the tablets on top of the press box.
I'm saying these cheaters use them during live play.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:19 pm
by Bootsy
Is it just me, or is it tragic that a sign-stealing scandal involving a major P5 program had to happen before FBS programs were permitted to utilize in-helmet comms?

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:25 pm
by T-Dog
Helmet comm was already on the road to approval before the Michigan controversy. It was tested in bowl season.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:06 pm
by ericsaid
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:18 pm
And Johnny Unitas called his own plays - drew them up on the field sometimes. Fun to watch.
Patrick Mahomes does this with Kelce. Brady used to do it with Gronkowski. How do you think two guys get open so easily, so often? They just run to an open spot, Mahomes or Brady get's it there, and they run for 40 yards. It's backyard football.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:12 pm
by bcoach
ericsaid wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:06 pm
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:18 pm
And Johnny Unitas called his own plays - drew them up on the field sometimes. Fun to watch.
Patrick Mahomes does this with Kelce. Brady used to do it with Gronkowski. How do you think two guys get open so easily, so often? They just run to an open spot, Mahomes or Brady get's it there, and they run for 40 yards. It's backyard football.
and fun.

Re: Two minute warning, helmet comm approved

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:25 pm
by Pikapp79
Wear them young men.