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at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:15 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
At one time did we not have a game at Wake on the schedule. I was looking at FBS Schedules and there is nothing mentioning Wake and that goes out to 2033 or some crazy distant future. What happened?

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:04 pm
by 704App
They ducked us with a promise of two return trips.. doubt those return trips happen.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
by Yosef84
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:41 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.
I thought at some point after 2020 we had Wake at Wake set up for 2024. At one point I had a daughter working at Wake and thought I might have an in for tickets. Maybe my memory on that is off a bit.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:01 pm
by NewApp
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:41 pm
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.
I thought at some point after 2020 we had Wake at Wake set up for 2024. At one point I had a daughter working at Wake and thought I might have an in for tickets. Maybe my memory on that is off a bit.
Getting cheap tickets at a Wake home game has never been a prob for me unless I wanted 50 yard line or something.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:17 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
NewApp wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:01 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:41 pm
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.
I thought at some point after 2020 we had Wake at Wake set up for 2024. At one point I had a daughter working at Wake and thought I might have an in for tickets. Maybe my memory on that is off a bit.
Getting cheap tickets at a Wake home game has never been a prob for me unless I wanted 50 yard line or something.
I was thinking cheap as in free cheap and not just cheap cheap.

Back in the 90s Wake would send out info to schools in the Triad about Education Day and I think there was a discount for the App State game.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:54 pm
by Captain Morgan
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.

iirc the ACC didn't cancel non conference games. The gov of NC I think said in-state teams could only play games within NC. Which was just fine since App and Wake's game would qualify. Wake cancelled anyway. They were scared to play us.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:11 pm
by Bootsy
At first glance, WF adding ULL to their 2024 schedule could be perceived by App fans as adding insult to injury.

Take comfort in the truth: after watching us take UNC the distance in three straight seasons, WF wants no part of it.
We'll just continue to let them hide behind their arrogance...

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:59 pm
by AppSt94
Captain Morgan wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:54 pm
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.

iirc the ACC didn't cancel non conference games. The gov of NC I think said in-state teams could only play games within NC. Which was just fine since App and Wake's game would qualify. Wake cancelled anyway. They were scared to play us.
Wake being a private school isn’t subject to the gov of NC’s mandates.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:52 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:59 pm
Captain Morgan wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:54 pm
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.

iirc the ACC didn't cancel non conference games. The gov of NC I think said in-state teams could only play games within NC. Which was just fine since App and Wake's game would qualify. Wake cancelled anyway. They were scared to play us.
Wake being a private school isn’t subject to the gov of NC’s mandates.
Are you sure of this with 100% certainty? ALL schools be they public, private, or religious must enforce vaccination requirements of children. Private schools don't get a pass on that (thank goodness.) This may have been something similar since it was concerning a public health emergency.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:58 pm
by Stonewall
Depending on the order as issued , they may have been subject. I don’t recall. But yes they don’t want us beating up on them .

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:09 pm
by Bigdaddyg1
Every P5 will have a better chance to make the playoffs than us. Good G5's probably need to play one or two good P5's and win their respective conferences in order to be the top ranked G5. A team like a Wake won't want that "bad loss" we would hang on them.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:45 am
by Yosef84
Captain Morgan wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:54 pm
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.

iirc the ACC didn't cancel non conference games. The gov of NC I think said in-state teams could only play games within NC. Which was just fine since App and Wake's game would qualify. Wake cancelled anyway. They were scared to play us.
I don't think this is correct. App is an in-state NC team and would have been subject to the governor's ruling but we played OOC games including Marshall, Campbell and Charlotte . It was a conference decision by the ACC which is why Notre Dame played in the ACC for football for that year only.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:32 am
by AppSt94
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:52 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:59 pm
Captain Morgan wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:54 pm
Yosef84 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Our game at Wake was in 2020 and the ACC cancelled all non-conference games. Don't think it ever got re-scheduled but I thought that was supposed to happen.

iirc the ACC didn't cancel non conference games. The gov of NC I think said in-state teams could only play games within NC. Which was just fine since App and Wake's game would qualify. Wake cancelled anyway. They were scared to play us.
Wake being a private school isn’t subject to the gov of NC’s mandates.
Are you sure of this with 100% certainty? ALL schools be they public, private, or religious must enforce vaccination requirements of children. Private schools don't get a pass on that (thank goodness.) This may have been something similar since it was concerning a public health emergency.
Am I 100% certain? No. But Wake, as a private institution isn’t under any obligation to follow the Governor’s directive. Aside from the fact that from a fiscal standpoint, if you are Wake and are limited in your revenue stream from attendance, you definitely don’t play an App St. in a 3/4 empty stadium when you can fill it up later on.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:03 am
by NewApp
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:58 pm
Depending on the order as issued , they may have been subject. I don’t recall. But yes they don’t want us beating up on them .

Yep, we have beaten them 7 times and lost 15 and tied 1. But all but 1 were on Wake's home field.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:47 am
by Stonewall
Weren’t we historically some of their largest crowds? At least up until the time they stopped scheduling us?

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:37 pm
by NewApp
Stonewall wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:47 am
Weren’t we historically some of their largest crowds? At least up until the time they stopped scheduling us?

Not the largest crowds but always among the largest. I was at everyone ubt the last two.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:33 pm
by Stonewall
In other words, yes.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:35 pm
by Captain Morgan
here you go!

" Appalachian State and Wake Forest have agreed to postpone their nonconference game scheduled for Sept. 11 to a future year. Wake Forest's news release cited the reduced fan capacity for the game between programs separated by 86 miles.

Wake Forest is a member of the Atlantic Coast Conference, which has announced that league teams will play 10 conference games and one nonconference matchup played in the ACC member's home state.

Appalachian State is a member of the Sun Belt Conference, which has announced that league teams will play eight conference games and the option to add as many as four nonconference opponents."
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ame-future




We could have played the game legally but Wake ducked out, claiming the game was too important to play for the state of North Carolina with reduced seating. Part of the agreement included a trip to Boone, which State, Carolina and East Carolina have all scheduled since then.


But 4 years later, the Wake game still has not been scheduled, despite it's importance to the state of North Carolina. They are scared.

Re: at Wake Forest

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:49 pm
by T-Dog
The hope was to have all the games by 2030, but Wake just did a big schedule release and App wasn't mentioned or on it.

The games are still on the future schedules list.