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When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:11 am
by 8993
I know that Georgia Southern is planning on expanding before official Sun Belt Conference play begins. Do we have the same intentions? Are we at least going to get rid of the track before we move to the SBC? With more TV games, that thing needs to go.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:16 am
by Gonzo
As far as I know, there isn't a date set at this point. It's definitely on the to-do list according to the Athletics Strategic Plan.
https://admin.xosn.com/pdf8/1328986.pdf ... 0206170020
(Huge file, beware)
If I was a betting man, I'd say the track will be gone and additional seating will be added in between the 2013-14 seasons.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:24 am
by asutrnr81
There was a break point in the fund raising at which time the University would start implementing the Capital plan...I remember the talk about the number but do not remember the number.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:31 am
by asumike83
Saw today where the Campaign for Appalachian has raised $155M of the $200M goal. Of that, I believe $25M is dedicated to athletic facilities but I'm not sure when they can begin to spend those funds.
IMO, there are three facilities upgrades that should take priority:
1) Relocation of the track
2) Permanent seating in the North end zone
3) Expansion of the baseball stadium. I love the Beav but it is tiny.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:37 am
by 8993
There area also those plans to build a new soccer stadium. App State Athletics needs to prioritize, but I guess they can't really do that without stepping on a team's toes.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:43 am
by appgrouch
Gonzo wrote:As far as I know, there isn't a date set at this point. It's definitely on the to-do list according to the Athletics Strategic Plan.
https://admin.xosn.com/pdf8/1328986.pdf ... 0206170020
(Huge file, beware)
If I was a betting man, I'd say the track will be gone and additional seating will be added in between the 2013-14 seasons.
No site has been identified for a new track as of yet. That will have to happen first and the track would need to be in place before the end of Feb. to allow for the start of track season.
*Comment Meant to Cause Anger*
*Not serious*
We shouldn't force the most successful sports (# conf champs indiv/team) to not have a facility but to the expansion for a current transitional sport.
End of rage baiting
If they could get the track up and running by Feb 2014, we could see temp stands and a covered track for 2014 and the start of the permanent stands in 2015.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:46 am
by appgrouch
8993 wrote:There area also those plans to build a new soccer stadium. App State Athletics needs to prioritize, but I guess they can't really do that without stepping on a team's toes.
They are in the process of building a new Field Hockey Stadium were the old soccer stadium.
Building a new soccer stadium after all the money that App spent on the current complex would be a complete waste.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:36 am
by hapapp
appgrouch wrote:8993 wrote:There area also those plans to build a new soccer stadium. App State Athletics needs to prioritize, but I guess they can't really do that without stepping on a team's toes.
They are in the process of building a new Field Hockey Stadium were the old soccer stadium.
Building a new soccer stadium after all the money that App spent on the current complex would be a complete waste.
What percentage of the cost did ASU contribute?
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:29 am
by appgrouch
hapapp wrote:appgrouch wrote:8993 wrote:There area also those plans to build a new soccer stadium. App State Athletics needs to prioritize, but I guess they can't really do that without stepping on a team's toes.
They are in the process of building a new Field Hockey Stadium were the old soccer stadium.
Building a new soccer stadium after all the money that App spent on the current complex would be a complete waste.
What percentage of the cost did ASU contribute?
% I don't know off hand but they did contribute the Locker Rooms/Concession and gave enough to the field turf of the main field that there is a massive Block A in the center of it.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:46 am
by ASU-FTW
I wonder how much debt we have left to pay off from the previous facilities upgrades. If we knew that, it would allow us to more accurately predict when we can upgrade.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:52 am
by moehler
If you guys want to see what our stadium would look like without the track, go take a look at the new renivations at Texas State. The" before" pictures shows a track, stadium looks horrible, second rate, cheap. Now, no track, seating added in its place, and the stadium looks incrediable, first class, doesnt even look like the same stadium 5 years ago. Makes me jealous, a program that has done absolutely nothing has a stadium that nice.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:00 pm
by GlassOnion
moehler wrote:Makes me jealous, a program that has done absolutely nothing has a stadium that nice.
They did do something, they dumped the FCS. We should have done the same years ago.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:30 pm
by Appftw
I really don't think the track is going anywhere. Sure, they'll build another track somewhere else, but there are a few things that lead me to believe that we are planning to simply build on top of the existing one. For one, the architectural render showed us doing just that and if they wanted to take it out of the picture they would have. Also, the rumors of an underground stream/bedrock/ancient indian burial ground beneath the field seem to corroborate this.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:36 pm
by Gonzo
Appftw wrote:I really don't think the track is going anywhere. Sure, they'll build another track somewhere else, but there are a few things that lead me to believe that we are planning to simply build on top of the existing one. For one, the architectural render showed us doing just that and if they wanted to take it out of the picture they would have. Also, the rumors of an underground stream/bedrock/ancient indian burial ground beneath the field seem to corroborate this.

funny stuff
They will be moving it though. It says so in the strategic plan.
https://admin.xosn.com/pdf8/1328986.pdf ... 0206170020
From pages 18 and 19
II. Goal: Expand Kidd Brewer Stadium’s capacity and enhance the overall fan experience.
• Add premium seating and general seating as required by ticket sales and attendance
• Expand digital and video opportunities
• Identify a space for game day promotional events
- Responsibility: Associate Athletics Director for Facilities,
Director of Game Operations, IMG Staff
- Key Components: Funding, space, university support
- Time Frame: Fall 2012 – Ongoing
....
V. Goal: Find a home for the track and field and field hockey programs.
• Design, construct, acquire space and fund permanent facilities
- Responsibility: Associate Athletics Director for Facilities, Coaches, Director of Athletics
- Key Components: Determination of Kidd Brewer expansion, determination of location on University-owned land
- Time Frame: Fall 2012 – Ongoing as funds allow
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:52 pm
by asumike83
Appftw wrote:I really don't think the track is going anywhere. Sure, they'll build another track somewhere else, but there are a few things that lead me to believe that we are planning to simply build on top of the existing one. For one, the architectural render showed us doing just that and if they wanted to take it out of the picture they would have. Also, the rumors of an underground stream/bedrock/ancient indian burial ground beneath the field seem to corroborate this.
I do agree that it is highly unlikely that they do any digging to lower the field. I expect they will remove the track, put permanent seating in the North end zone and do some landscaping where the track currently is.
This is a page from the pamphlet given out at last year's Yosef Club Spring Tour event (sorry for the crappy quality). Along with the widely distributed rendering, there is one in the middle that does not appear to have a track and is along the lines of what I'm expecting. Because they used an actual game day picture on the other rendering, I'd guess they kept the track in the photo to make it look more realistic and not have to draw over or around the teams on the sidelines.

Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:00 pm
by Saint3333
I do not like the design in that picture.
If we are adding we need to do it right, it's starting to look like an erector set stadium.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:05 pm
by asumike83
Saint3333 wrote:I do not like the design in that picture.
If we are adding we need to do it right, it's starting to look like an erector set stadium.
As long as the track is removed, I think it will be an improvement but I'd prefer they did not add a third level on the East side. Instead, it would be great to add those extra seats by connecting the North end zone seats to the East/West sides and have a horseshoe design.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:15 pm
by Gonzo
asumike83 wrote:Saint3333 wrote:I do not like the design in that picture.
If we are adding we need to do it right, it's starting to look like an erector set stadium.
As long as the track is removed, I think it will be an improvement but I'd prefer they did not add a third level on the East side. Instead, it would be great to add those extra seats by connecting the North end zone seats to the East/West sides and have a horseshoe design.
I've also wondered about that third deck on the "State" side. The second deck that exists now already damn near hangs over stadium drive. Will they have to add spiral ramps to reach that level?
The administration needs to be leaking every single render they come up with. THAT is how you hype up this FBS jump and garner Yosef Club donations. But as usual, crickets from the top of the Mountain.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:37 pm
by Appftw
Gonzo wrote:Appftw wrote:I really don't think the track is going anywhere. Sure, they'll build another track somewhere else, but there are a few things that lead me to believe that we are planning to simply build on top of the existing one. For one, the architectural render showed us doing just that and if they wanted to take it out of the picture they would have. Also, the rumors of an underground stream/bedrock/ancient indian burial ground beneath the field seem to corroborate this.

funny stuff
They will be moving it though. It says so in the strategic plan.
https://admin.xosn.com/pdf8/1328986.pdf ... 0206170020
From pages 18 and 19
II. Goal: Expand Kidd Brewer Stadium’s capacity and enhance the overall fan experience.
• Add premium seating and general seating as required by ticket sales and attendance
• Expand digital and video opportunities
• Identify a space for game day promotional events
- Responsibility: Associate Athletics Director for Facilities,
Director of Game Operations, IMG Staff
- Key Components: Funding, space, university support
- Time Frame: Fall 2012 – Ongoing
....
V. Goal: Find a home for the track and field and field hockey programs.
• Design, construct, acquire space and fund permanent facilities
- Responsibility: Associate Athletics Director for Facilities, Coaches, Director of Athletics
- Key Components: Determination of Kidd Brewer expansion, determination of location on University-owned land
- Time Frame: Fall 2012 – Ongoing as funds allow
I don't see anything in there about demolishing the current track. Not to be a debbie downer, I just don't want you to get your hopes up. Plenty of FBS schools still have tracks around their stadium.
Re: When will stadium expansion start again?
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:39 pm
by Gonzo
Appftw wrote:Gonzo wrote:Appftw wrote:I really don't think the track is going anywhere. Sure, they'll build another track somewhere else, but there are a few things that lead me to believe that we are planning to simply build on top of the existing one. For one, the architectural render showed us doing just that and if they wanted to take it out of the picture they would have. Also, the rumors of an underground stream/bedrock/ancient indian burial ground beneath the field seem to corroborate this.

funny stuff
They will be moving it though. It says so in the strategic plan.
https://admin.xosn.com/pdf8/1328986.pdf ... 0206170020
From pages 18 and 19
II. Goal: Expand Kidd Brewer Stadium’s capacity and enhance the overall fan experience.
• Add premium seating and general seating as required by ticket sales and attendance
• Expand digital and video opportunities
• Identify a space for game day promotional events
- Responsibility: Associate Athletics Director for Facilities,
Director of Game Operations, IMG Staff
- Key Components: Funding, space, university support
- Time Frame: Fall 2012 – Ongoing
....
V. Goal:
Find a home for the track and field and field hockey programs.
• Design, construct, acquire space and fund permanent facilities
- Responsibility: Associate Athletics Director for Facilities, Coaches, Director of Athletics
- Key Components: Determination of Kidd Brewer expansion, determination of location on University-owned land
- Time Frame: Fall 2012 – Ongoing as funds allow
I don't see anything in there about demolishing the current track. Not to be a debbie downer, I just don't want you to get your hopes up. Plenty of FBS schools still have tracks around their stadium.
I've bolded it in the previous quote.