CBS Rates First Year Coaches
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:48 pm
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hapapp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:48 pmhttps://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... at-baylor/
Shawn received a B grade.
Given what they inherited, I'm guessing that Missouri outperformed what was expected. The record alone doesn't determine the job done.NewApp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:40 pmhapapp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:48 pmhttps://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... at-baylor/
Shawn received a B grade.
Missouri
Eliah Drinkwitz 5-5 Missouri was competitive in the SEC East and made a brief appearance in the Top 25. Not bad for a coach who only had one year of experience prior to taking over the Tigers. A-
Drinkwitz got an A- with a 5-5 record????? While Coach Clark got a B with a 9-3 record?? Does this make sense?
Absolutely makes sense.NewApp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:40 pmhapapp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:48 pmhttps://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... at-baylor/
Shawn received a B grade.
Missouri
Eliah Drinkwitz 5-5 Missouri was competitive in the SEC East and made a brief appearance in the Top 25. Not bad for a coach who only had one year of experience prior to taking over the Tigers. A-
Drinkwitz got an A- with a 5-5 record????? While Coach Clark got a B with a 9-3 record?? Does this make sense?
Good post. It was a great year coupled with some of the sloppiest and most undisciplined play I’ve seen since mid 2000s. Clean that up and we will be a force!BeauFoster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:08 pmI think B is probably fair. I’d be interested to know how coach grades himself.
I believe that coming into season, we thought defense would be more of the liability and offense would be top of conference. Offense was not good especially against good teams. With offense that returned, we may not have went U defeated but we should have been near perfect. Just personal opinion. I do not believe we will be a one loss or two loss team every year. However, with no P5s on schedule, thought expectations would be higher. So B seems reasonable.t4pizza wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:00 amI think that a "B" is the grade I would give as well. All in all, most schools consider 9-3 with a bowl win to be a great season, but we are not most schools. It is a good season but I will remember it more for missed opportunities due to self inflicted injuries and a lot of that falls on the coaching staff. So all and all I think a B is the appropriate grade.
Statistically speaking, special teams was similar in 2020 to what itwas in 2019. Our kickoff return average was slightly better last year 24 to 22 this year. Punt returns were 1 yard better last year 9.6 to 8.6. Our KO coverage was better this year by about a yard and punt return coverage was almost identical. Our net punting was up about a yard better this year, FG and XP were identical.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:46 pmThe penalties that killed drives or extended opponents drives this year, some causing the difference in the ballgame, were frustrating, and that is a DIRECT reflection on the staff.
A poster on the Peterson thread did a comparison of stats over this season and last season, it would be interesting to see a penalties comparison too. The false start that backs you up or the holding that kills a big play or the unnecessary late hit, etc. all these add up to cost you in a game, discipline.
Another area is special teams play - how do you compare that except with an eye test? I thought we were behind the previous season there too.
There's room for overall improvement, step 1 is on the way to Champaign.
Thanks for finding that info, all the stats you found says we weren't much different in '19 and '20, without seeing them I thought we a lot had more penalties in '20.hapapp wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:38 amStatistically speaking, special teams was similar in 2020 to what itwas in 2019. Our kickoff return average was slightly better last year 24 to 22 this year. Punt returns were 1 yard better last year 9.6 to 8.6. Our KO coverage was better this year by about a yard and punt return coverage was almost identical. Our net punting was up about a yard better this year, FG and XP were identical.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:46 pmThe penalties that killed drives or extended opponents drives this year, some causing the difference in the ballgame, were frustrating, and that is a DIRECT reflection on the staff.
A poster on the Peterson thread did a comparison of stats over this season and last season, it would be interesting to see a penalties comparison too. The false start that backs you up or the holding that kills a big play or the unnecessary late hit, etc. all these add up to cost you in a game, discipline.
Another area is special teams play - how do you compare that except with an eye test? I thought we were behind the previous season there too.
There's room for overall improvement, step 1 is on the way to Champaign.
Im actually okay with some discipline issues if it fits our game. What I mean to say is that football is about getting nasty, it’s no gentleman’s game.
Agree with you about the type of penalties. Dont really mind the late hit after the whistle as long as its not dirty. Penalty yards do not tell the story. Its the type and timing that matter. I cannot understand a false start, everyone knows when the ball is to be snapped! Dumb- trash talking and unsportsman like are killers as well. These two types are discipline issues, other types you are going to have when playing hard.ah59396 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:36 amIm actually okay with some discipline issues if it fits our game. What I mean to say is that football is about getting nasty, it’s no gentleman’s game.
I grew up playing hockey and often some of my best impact teammates were also the most penalized. They touted that very thin line between effective enforcement/back checking/forechecking and down right stupid decisions.
But you need those guys because they make the other team think twice. Get them off their game.
A LB with a nasty streak can make that WR think twice about his slant route before he runs it. Same goes for the work in the trenches.
Now there were times this year when we were heavily penalized and looked largely apathetic. Which to me suggests penalties born of laziness. That has to be cleaned up.
But I can live with a higher than average penalty yards metric if it translates into the other team not being able to execute like they want to. That’s football.
Amen.ah59396 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:36 amIm actually okay with some discipline issues if it fits our game. What I mean to say is that football is about getting nasty, it’s no gentleman’s game.
I grew up playing hockey and often some of my best impact teammates were also the most penalized. They touted that very thin line between effective enforcement/back checking/forechecking and down right stupid decisions.
But you need those guys because they make the other team think twice. Get them off their game.
A LB with a nasty streak can make that WR think twice about his slant route before he runs it. Same goes for the work in the trenches.
Now there were times this year when we were heavily penalized and looked largely apathetic. Which to me suggests penalties born of laziness. That has to be cleaned up.
But I can live with a higher than average penalty yards metric if it translates into the other team not being able to execute like they want to. That’s football.