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Camellia $100,000 - the lowest of all Bowl games. This is something that needs to be fixed if this is Apps permanent destination. I would be embarrassed if I was on that bowl committee.

Doesn't matter, all bowl money goes to the conference and then is split.

It all goes into conference coffers and everyone gets a share so it doesn't matter. Keying same time sorry.

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Camellia $100,000 - the lowest of all Bowl games. This is something that needs to be fixed if this is Apps permanent destination. I would be embarrassed if I was on that bowl committee.

It's tough being in a conference with teams in Louisiana, Arkansas, and Alabama, and three of the tie ins being in Louisiana and Alabama. On the bright side, bowl money goes to a pool that is distributed across the conference.

Repeat, but I took time to type it, so posted it anyways.

Six Sun Belt teams going bowling...more money in our pockets and SBC showing positive signs of improvements. Wish we had at least one P5 bowl match-up and an AAC match-up for the Conference.

Still believe that an individual bowl should be responsible for providing a payout greater than the expenses an institution will incur participating in such bowl. App may not take a loss on this due to playoff and other bowl revenue, but at minimum should not have to spend that money to finance its own bowl trip.

The bowls are about them making money not us. We ( the conference ) just need to negotiate better deals. We need to get better as a conference to do that. That is why I want all the teams to be successful regardless of how I feel about them individually. ( GS )

JMappfan5 wrote:Six Sun Belt teams going bowling...more money in our pockets and SBC showing positive signs of improvements. Wish we had at least one P5 bowl match-up and an AAC match-up for the Conference.

StAte has an AAC matchup with UCF.

JMappfan5 wrote:Six Sun Belt teams going bowling...more money in our pockets and SBC showing positive signs of improvements. Wish we had at least one P5 bowl match-up and an AAC match-up for the Conference.

The Cure Bowl is our AAC matchup.

We do need a P5 matchup though, preferably vs the ACC - in Charleston, SC.

I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

JTApps1 wrote:I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

Yes - now the Sun Belt is attached to the Dollar General Bowl.

AppSC wrote:

JTApps1 wrote:I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

Yes - now the Sun Belt is attached to the Dollar General Bowl.

Same bowl that's been around for years as a Sun Belt tie-in, just a different name. And yes, it's a bad one (the name, not the game).

Look, we get it - you wish App was still FCS. We aren't, and we aren't going back. It's time to either move on or stop caring about App football. We've had one of the most successful transitions of any program ever to move from FCS to FBS. You could wait until we're playing on New Year's to jump back on the bandwagon, but then you'd miss the climb. It's been a great ride so far, come join us.

EastHallApp wrote:

AppSC wrote:

JTApps1 wrote:I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

Yes - now the Sun Belt is attached to the Dollar General Bowl.

Same bowl that's been around for years as a Sun Belt tie-in, just a different name. And yes, it's a bad one (the name, not the game).

Look, we get it - you wish App was still FCS. We aren't, and we aren't going back. It's time to either move on or stop caring about App football. We've had one of the most successful transitions of any program ever to move from FCS to FBS. You could wait until we're playing on New Year's to jump back on the bandwagon, but then you'd miss the climb. It's been a great ride so far, come join us.

Wrong. You don't know me; don't put words in my mouth. The Yosef Club has received a check from me for fifteen + years in a row, and that will continue. I will miss my annual phone calls from Gerald.

The Sun Belt sucks. The same conference as Idaho - yeah, that's a great regional rivalry. They're going to a bowl game this year. AND THEN MOVING BACK TO FCS.

If you're happy with us being in a crappy conference with a crappy bowl slotting system, good on you.

AppSC wrote:

EastHallApp wrote:

AppSC wrote:

JTApps1 wrote:I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

Yes - now the Sun Belt is attached to the Dollar General Bowl.

Same bowl that's been around for years as a Sun Belt tie-in, just a different name. And yes, it's a bad one (the name, not the game).

Look, we get it - you wish App was still FCS. We aren't, and we aren't going back. It's time to either move on or stop caring about App football. We've had one of the most successful transitions of any program ever to move from FCS to FBS. You could wait until we're playing on New Year's to jump back on the bandwagon, but then you'd miss the climb. It's been a great ride so far, come join us.

Wrong. You don't know me; don't put words in my mouth. The Yosef Club has received a check from me for fifteen + years in a row, and that will continue. I will miss my annual phone calls from Gerald.

The Sun Belt sucks. The same conference as Idaho - yeah, that's a great regional rivalry. They're going to a bowl game this year. AND THEN MOVING BACK TO FCS.

If you're happy with us being in a crappy conference with a crappy bowl slotting system, good on you.

Sun Belt isn't the AAC, but its better than CUSA and MAC from top to bottom. Our 6th place bowl team beat the MWC champ for the second straight year. I really think there is no difference in the G5 leagues minus the top teams in the AAC.

You bring up Idaho who is in a much different situation than us, and the league is kicking them and NMSU out because they are so far away. We came into FBS during a time of transition for every league so fans have to be patient while everything gets sorted out.

All I know is we are having a ton of success, accomplishing things that no other transitional team has ever done, and we're in a much better place than before. Like East said lets just enjoy the ride and see where we go from here.

Let's not forget that this "crappy" league was the only on willing to give us a chance, and if it weren't for them home games against Miami and Wake would never happen.

AppSC wrote:

EastHallApp wrote:

AppSC wrote:

JTApps1 wrote:I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

Yes - now the Sun Belt is attached to the Dollar General Bowl.

Same bowl that's been around for years as a Sun Belt tie-in, just a different name. And yes, it's a bad one (the name, not the game).

Look, we get it - you wish App was still FCS. We aren't, and we aren't going back. It's time to either move on or stop caring about App football. We've had one of the most successful transitions of any program ever to move from FCS to FBS. You could wait until we're playing on New Year's to jump back on the bandwagon, but then you'd miss the climb. It's been a great ride so far, come join us.

Wrong. You don't know me; don't put words in my mouth. The Yosef Club has received a check from me for fifteen + years in a row, and that will continue. I will miss my annual phone calls from Gerald.

The Sun Belt sucks. The same conference as Idaho - yeah, that's a great regional rivalry. They're going to a bowl game this year. AND THEN MOVING BACK TO FCS.

If you're happy with us being in a crappy conference with a crappy bowl slotting system, good on you.

Every single post you make (in rapid succession) is complaining about bowl games, the Sun Belt, etc., and pining for the days of playing for a national championship.

We're still new to this FBS thing. Would I have liked to move directly into the ACC and be playing in the Orange or Peach Bowl right away? Sure, but for some reason that call didn't come, so we took what we could get, which is the same route every single program that's ever moved up has done. Boise State at this stage was still looking for their first bowl appearance. Have a little patience and try to enjoy winning 10 games a year.

Believe it or not, it has not escaped everyone's notice but yours that the Sun Belt isn't very good, that it is too regionally spread out, and that its bowl selection process is flawed. It's just that whereas everyone else prefers to discuss how those issues can be improved, your response to everything so far has been to complain that things aren't like they used to be. That's your prerogative, but again, we aren't going backward.

AppSC wrote:

EastHallApp wrote:

AppSC wrote:

JTApps1 wrote:I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

Yes - now the Sun Belt is attached to the Dollar General Bowl.

Same bowl that's been around for years as a Sun Belt tie-in, just a different name. And yes, it's a bad one (the name, not the game).

Look, we get it - you wish App was still FCS. We aren't, and we aren't going back. It's time to either move on or stop caring about App football. We've had one of the most successful transitions of any program ever to move from FCS to FBS. You could wait until we're playing on New Year's to jump back on the bandwagon, but then you'd miss the climb. It's been a great ride so far, come join us.

Wrong. You don't know me; don't put words in my mouth. The Yosef Club has received a check from me for fifteen + years in a row, and that will continue. I will miss my annual phone calls from Gerald.

The Sun Belt sucks. The same conference as Idaho - yeah, that's a great regional rivalry. They're going to a bowl game this year. AND THEN MOVING BACK TO FCS.

If you're happy with us being in a crappy conference with a crappy bowl slotting system, good on you.

Just give it time, things may not always stay the same. The way college football is changing I don't expect the G5 to look anywhere close to the way it looks now in 10 years.

Are we really discussing this again?!?!?

AppSC wrote:

EastHallApp wrote:

AppSC wrote:

JTApps1 wrote:I'm just glad the Sun Belt has 5 bowls now. Just a few years ago the conference had 2. The conference is growing in every way, and we are a big part of that success.

Yes - now the Sun Belt is attached to the Dollar General Bowl.

Same bowl that's been around for years as a Sun Belt tie-in, just a different name. And yes, it's a bad one (the name, not the game).

Look, we get it - you wish App was still FCS. We aren't, and we aren't going back. It's time to either move on or stop caring about App football. We've had one of the most successful transitions of any program ever to move from FCS to FBS. You could wait until we're playing on New Year's to jump back on the bandwagon, but then you'd miss the climb. It's been a great ride so far, come join us.

Wrong. You don't know me; don't put words in my mouth. The Yosef Club has received a check from me for fifteen + years in a row, and that will continue. I will miss my annual phone calls from Gerald.

The Sun Belt sucks. The same conference as Idaho - yeah, that's a great regional rivalry. They're going to a bowl game this year. AND THEN MOVING BACK TO FCS.

If you're happy with us being in a crappy conference with a crappy bowl slotting system, good on you.

I've said this before but it seems like a good time to repeat. The Sun Belt is the perfect conference for us to transition into the FBS with. Let's say by some weird alignment of the stars we went straight from the Southern Conference to a P5 conference...the result would be an initiation of a downward spiral of losing seasons in which fan interest would drop off and consequently interest from potential recruits would drop as well, we'd be staring at financial catastrophe, which would probably take decades to rebuild from. Based on the G5 conferences as they are now, the only one that carries more significance IMO is the AAC which would also mean more losses for us as we transition and with their geographic dispersion it would most likely be a financial issue for us at this time. It's much, MUCH better to be where we are now as a program. We've been to bowls 2 years in a row now, conference champion in our 3rd year. Setting various Sun Belt records in just 3 years, came within a skipped heartbeat of beating Tennessee. We've won an amazing amount of games looking back over the last 25 games...winning begats winning. Our program is building because we're able to keep winning. I think you'll see realignment of G5 and P5 in the not too distant future and we'll have a winning program in place with momentum for whatever opportunities lie ahead. Even if we stay in the Sun Belt long term, assuming our program continues to improve the Sun Belt could give the AAC a run for its money and be the strongest G5 on a consistent basis, who knows. Once the Sun Belt establishes the divisions and championship game (2018), it will add to the conference excitement as well.

Appersrule wrote:Still believe that an individual bowl should be responsible for providing a payout greater than the expenses an institution will incur participating in such bowl. App may not take a loss on this due to playoff and other bowl revenue, but at minimum should not have to spend that money to finance its own bowl trip.

Bowl expenses come from a championship budget. This budget is for all athletic team's expenses for travel to conference championship tournaments and in this case, a bowl game. It's not as if this is a surprise and we are scrambling to find funds. The football program will spend well over $100,000 on this trip. Well over. Closer to 3-4x as much as that. MealS, Rooms, Buses, Charter Flights, Gear - all for around 200ppl.

SayYesToTheRock wrote:

JMappfan5 wrote:Six Sun Belt teams going bowling...more money in our pockets and SBC showing positive signs of improvements. Wish we had at least one P5 bowl match-up and an AAC match-up for the Conference.

The Cure Bowl is our AAC matchup.

We do need a P5 matchup though, preferably vs the ACC - in Charleston, SC.

Yeah, we don't need multiple G5 matchups likes of MAC and USA