Top 25 Watch (real thread)

[AppStFan1]

I’m shocked to see McMurphy ranking is that high but wow, I’ll take it.


I do think we are better than Cincinnati and I’m willing to die on that hill. I have no doubt we would do better than 42-0 against Ohio State. Would we win? Probably not. But damn we wouldn’t get blanked.

I think Ohio State kills us but not 42-0 for sure. I would guess more like 38-14 or 35-17. I'm pretty sure we can't block Chase Young though and I think Sutton and Hennigan would have to play big. OSU has very good corners and just running the go route with speed like Virgil, etc won't move the ball. If we would lose by less than 30 I would be happy though.

[AppStFan1]

Steve Wiseman moves us up 3 spots to #17.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/col ... 10283.html

Several voters are pushing us ahead of Wisconsin. Could we possibly hit #19? Need to see more ballots but it looks 50/50 that we hit 19 right now. I still say it will be 20 but the point totals should be close.

I don't get why people are voting for San Diego State. UNLV is awful and they barely won that game. I expect Boise State to beat SDSU by 2 TDs.

[AppStFan1]

Josh Furlong voted us #22 last week and now has us #19.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46662740/jo ... the-pac-12

[hotrod2001]

I tend to lean the same way, we may break #20 by end of season, finish in the teens with a bowl win. Regardless of an NY6 game or not, my goal for this season was to get ranked by mid-season and stay there until the end. I'll worry more about being the highest ranked G5 another year. I'd love for it to happen, but we have achieved so much each year, I'm OK with the benchmarks we have currently reached. Let's win the Sunbelt and win our Bowl Game, wherever that may be.

Rankings area based on opinions of other people. We just need to win and the cards will fall where they will. I'm with you on goals for this year. We are ranked at half way. And that is a fan's goal, not the Team's goal. Keep winning and stay ranked. That helps us recruit the best athletes we can get. That's how we stay relevant. I don't want to be on this stage for a couple years. I want to be here permanently. Win the Belt. Win the Bowl. We are still very young in this FBS thing and are doing things no other school has ever accomplished. I'll not get too greedy too soon.

Drink can play off the whole "being ranked thing", but that was absolutely a goal of his and most likely was an expectation of DGs when he hired Drink. Drink knows that they need to win the conference and a bowl game to achieve this goal, so that is why he is keeping the team's eyes on the 1-0 mentality.

The end goal is to build sustained success like Boise State. We will have to work hard at changing the national perspective of what App is and it will take a few years for us to be an "auto preseason rank team", but we are well on our way.

No question that Drink saw what we have in talent and felt he could do even better than Satt. He felt this was a top 25 job for sure.

Yeah I’m that first presser he said that this was both a “destination” job, not a stepping stool, and that it’s a top-25 program.

Even if he decides to chase bigger payouts down the road, if he can keep the program firing the way it is, we’ll be well on our way to being another Boise or UCF and not the giant killing underdogs we get made out to be.

[AppStFan1]

Coaches flipped us over Boise State. Points were super close last week so not shocked here. Felt it was 50/50. I really thought we would be #21 but very close. Not playing hurts in the eyes of some voters.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/p ... 019-10-27/

[AppStFan1]

AP Poll Ballot: James Kratch- Had App at 21 last week. Moved App to 20.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019 ... -no-4.html

[AppStFan1]

Jon Wilner's AP Ballot. He had App at #23 last week and now moved up to #22.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/10/27/ ... oma-falls/

[AppStFan1]

#20 in the AP Poll

https://apnews.com/APTop25CollegeFootballPoll

[hapapp]

Two more G5 teams enter the top 25 and Navy just outside.

[ah59396]

I’m fine with 20. We have a chance to make a big statement coming up.

Just my opinion but these next 2-3 weeks of games are arguably some of the biggest in the history of our program.

We very well may be a top 10 team, 3 weeks from this moment. Or we may be just another G5 team. Me oh my.

[TomA415]

I’m fine with 20. We have a chance to make a big statement coming up.

Just my opinion but these next 2-3 weeks of games are arguably some of the biggest in the history of our program.

We very well may be a top 10 team, 3 weeks from this moment. Or we may be just another G5 team. Me oh my.

Even if we blow out our next three opponents we won’t be top 10 unless a ton of teams lose. Going from 20 -> 10 is a lot slower process than 40 -> 20.

[ah59396]

I’m fine with 20. We have a chance to make a big statement coming up.

Just my opinion but these next 2-3 weeks of games are arguably some of the biggest in the history of our program.

We very well may be a top 10 team, 3 weeks from this moment. Or we may be just another G5 team. Me oh my.

Even if we blow out our next three opponents we won’t be top 10 unless a ton of teams lose. Going from 20 -> 10 is a lot slower process than 40 -> 20.

I do agree with you regarding the pace of climb, however looking at the landscape in front of us:

Five 2 loss teams. Any of them lose and they fall beneath us.

Cincinnati will fall beneath us if they lose.
SMU will fall beneath us if they lose.

Utah, Minnesota and Baylor likely all drop hard with a loss as well. Maybe not out, but behind us as Utah has 1 loss already in the weak PAC 12 and the other two, despite being P5 teams, clearly aren’t looked at the same as the blue bloods.


So there’s a pathway to it. Obviously a lot has to happen, but 3 weeks is a long time. The fact that it’s a possibility is absolutely nuts to me.

As long as we remain undefeated, at this point, I can’t see anyone leapfrogging us.

[ah59396]

Who do we cheer for this week??



West Virginia vs #12 Baylor - go ‘neers bros

Maryland vs #14 Michigan - go Terps

Va Tech vs #16 Notre Dame - HOKIES

#8 Georgia vs #6 Florida - I dunno. Fla I guess because I think a 2 loss Georgia is probably right in front of us next week and within stringing distance to pass

U-Dub vs #9 Utah - go Huskies

#11 Auburn vs Ole Miss - go rebels

#17 Cincinnati vs ECU - cmon Pirates don’t suck

#24 Memphis vs #15 SMU - clearly Memphis

[bigdaddyg]

Next 3 games are huge no doubt. If we can climb to 10-0 I doubt if the margins will matter. With the limited number of spots we can realistically move up 3 10 point wins would have to be good enough to get to maybe 15. I can’t see much higher even with 3 20 point wins. If we can climb that high would Cincinnati and SMU be above us? That would be 3 G5’s in the top 15. Hard to imagine but I guess possible. Beat Stink!

[AppStFan1]

Who do we cheer for this week??



West Virginia vs #12 Baylor - go ‘neers bros

Maryland vs #14 Michigan - go Terps

Va Tech vs #16 Notre Dame - HOKIES

#8 Georgia vs #6 Florida - I dunno. Fla I guess because I think a 2 loss Georgia is probably right in front of us next week and within stringing distance to pass

U-Dub vs #9 Utah - go Huskies

#11 Auburn vs Ole Miss - go rebels

#17 Cincinnati vs ECU - cmon Pirates don’t suck

#24 Memphis vs #15 SMU - clearly Memphis

The last thing we need is for any team ranked 21-35 range to get a top 25 win right now.
We need to widen the gap in votes. I also don't think any top 10 team's results matter for us.

Here is how I think an ideal weekend would go for us.

We win by more than the spread along with a loss for Minnesota and Cincinnati. A loss or super close win by Boise State, Kansas State, and Wake Forest will help us get a gap. A win by Notre Dame so VT can't sneak up close to us like Kansas State just did. Memphis game can help and hurt regardless of what happens. If SMU loses they probably drop behind us but Memphis has the schedule where they could pass us if they keep winning and SMU would not be totally done. If SMU wins now it eliminates Memphis and then we would want SMU to lose 2 games over in November to ensure we are ahead of both.

Remember, we can't get any top 25 wins so if a P5 team is 8-3 or 7-4 with 1-2 top 25 wins they will likely be ahead of us in the CFP.

[ah59396]

Who do we cheer for this week??



West Virginia vs #12 Baylor - go ‘neers bros

Maryland vs #14 Michigan - go Terps

Va Tech vs #16 Notre Dame - HOKIES

#8 Georgia vs #6 Florida - I dunno. Fla I guess because I think a 2 loss Georgia is probably right in front of us next week and within stringing distance to pass

U-Dub vs #9 Utah - go Huskies

#11 Auburn vs Ole Miss - go rebels

#17 Cincinnati vs ECU - cmon Pirates don’t suck

#24 Memphis vs #15 SMU - clearly Memphis

We need teams on the brink of rankings or in 21-25 to lose so we can get a wider gap between us and them. We only need for teams ahead of us to lose to unranked teams with losing records. A VT win might help us in poll position for now but VT is then just another win in a row away from passing us with a win over ND.

We passed Boise State because the votes were so close. We need that gap. So with that said here is how I think the perfect weekend would look for us.

No game in the top 10 matters for us right now. We aren't close enough. We need to win by more than the spread and have the following happen to gain about 300 or so points and move up 3-4 spots.

Va Tech vs #16 Notre Dame - We want Notre Dame to win for now. Virginia Tech is 5-3 and would take some votes from us if they win. We need ranked teams to lose to teams who are not even receiving votes and have losing records. Then we need Notre Dame to lose to Duke or Navy the week after.

Washington vs #9 Utah - Actually we want Utah for now. If Utah wins it eliminates all votes for Washington. There are voters who have them ahead of us. If Utah loses they will still be ahead of us and then Washington would skyrocket up and take votes from us.

#24 Memphis vs #15 SMU - We should want SMU for now unless you want Memphis to immediately lose the following week. We still need Memphis to take another loss to feel good about being ahead of them.

Remember, we can't get any top 25 wins. If a P5 team is say 8-3 or 7-4 with 1-2 top 25 wins they will likely be ahead of us in the CFP because our SOS is low.

I disagree with almost everything you’ve said here. But oh well. Go App.

[AppStFan1]

Who do we cheer for this week??



West Virginia vs #12 Baylor - go ‘neers bros

Maryland vs #14 Michigan - go Terps

Va Tech vs #16 Notre Dame - HOKIES

#8 Georgia vs #6 Florida - I dunno. Fla I guess because I think a 2 loss Georgia is probably right in front of us next week and within stringing distance to pass

U-Dub vs #9 Utah - go Huskies

#11 Auburn vs Ole Miss - go rebels

#17 Cincinnati vs ECU - cmon Pirates don’t suck

#24 Memphis vs #15 SMU - clearly Memphis

The last thing we need is for any team ranked 21-35 range to get a top 25 win right now.
We need to widen the gap in votes. I also don't think any top 10 team's results matter for us.

Here is how I think an ideal weekend would go for us.

We win by more than the spread along with a loss for Minnesota and Cincinnati. A loss or super close win by Boise State, Kansas State, and Wake Forest will help us get a gap. A win by Notre Dame so VT can't sneak up close to us like Kansas State just did. Memphis game can help and hurt regardless of what happens. If SMU loses they probably drop behind us but Memphis has the schedule where they could pass us if they keep winning and SMU would not be totally done. If SMU wins now it eliminates Memphis and then we would want SMU to lose 2 games over in November to ensure we are ahead of both.

Remember, we can't get any top 25 wins so if a P5 team is 8-3 or 7-4 with 1-2 top 25 wins they will likely be ahead of us in the CFP.

I disagree with almost everything you’ve said here. But oh well. Go App.

I edited my post. Reread and I think you may get where I am coming from better.

You are 100% right in that right now it helps us if those games happen like you said. However, if that happens we then have to pull against Memphis, Virginia Tech, etc. We need ranked teams to lose to unranked teams and need teams 21-30 range to take another loss so we don't have to worry about them passing on us ballots.

Go look at the AP ballots on that website when they come out. Kansas State is ahead of us on some ballots. If Kansas State or Memphis wins out that hurts us. I rather eliminate them right now then have to keep pulling against them.

If Memphis beats SMU, we still need SMU to lose one more time because if they win out the CFP will likely vault them ahead of us.

For example, we NEED Boise State to lose one more game.

Here is their schedule: https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... te-broncos

If they win out they will have a win over a ranked SDSU in MWC title game, RV Wyoming, and Utah State team who has received votes. They could pass us again if we play some close games and they clobber their remaining schedule.

[ASU3432Mi]

Just beat the Stink!

[Black Saturday]

Are we ranked higher than North Dakota St yet?

[AppStFan1]

Just beat the Stink!

That is most important. We just have to keep winning. I will truly worry about who is losing if we make it to 10-0. A lot of this stuff such as the 4 AAC teams so high, 2 MWC teams ranked, VT, ND, Iowa, Wake Forest, and the cluster of ACC teams will work its way out over the next 4 weeks. No reason to worry about anything other than beating GSU for now!