I feel..... ?

[appvette]

4-6 against FBS teams 2 of the last 3 years. We've gone .500 against SBC teams the past 3 years while having a significant advantage over those programs in brand awareness and program support. Zero championships in 5 years. All while taking over a top 20 team. This is pretty black and white to me.

[appgrad95&97]

“Adversity does not build character, it reveals it”

And insanity is keeping the same coach year after year and expecting different results.

9 wins, 10 wins. 9 wins, 6 wins, 9 wins, 5 wins. You were saying? Look. You don’t have to be happy with the product. You can have an opinion on the trajectory. But when you let the negatives consume your rationale then you are no longer rational.

You forgot 0-2 in conference championships with one of those we only got into on a technicality. You're also neglecting to mention the fact that for at least the first two and maybe even three years, Clark was working with a prior coach's recruits. Most of the players on last year's team and this year's teams are Clark's recruits. And now look at the record that we had last year and this year. There's nothing wrong with being an eternal optimist but don't let that keep you from looking at the current situation objectively. Clark seems like a great guy on a personal level and a solid positional coach. He is not cut out to be a head coach at the FBS level.

Whether you want to believe it or not, I do look at the situation objectively. Just because I don’t agree with other’s conclusions doesn’t mean that it lacks objectivity and contrary to popular belief, I don’t have anymore access to Clark than others that visit Boone of Yosef Club tour stops. I work in audit and risk and understand all problems are caused by factors that aren’t always apparent on the surface. I’ve been back in NC since 2020 and I have invested a great deal of time and passion in this program since returning so I’ve seen what is happening leading up to it. I’m not happy with a 5-6 season but I don’t see the need to blow it up.

I’ve explained my reasoning for retaining him. That’s all I can do. If you and anyone else don’t want to agree that’s fine. If he is let go, then he is let go and I will be all in on the next guy and staff. If he is retained then I will remain all in. I am for App and that means that I support the coaches and players until they aren’t. I’m not going to spend my time tearing down anyone that is representing our university.

This one isn't about your objectivity, people come to different conclusions, based on facts. But you've clearly given him credit for a nine win season that didn't happen.

[appvette]

We let Jason Capel go with a 48% conference winning record. I guess the bar was higher for our basketball program than football is now.

[Saint3333]

“Adversity does not build character, it reveals it”

And insanity is keeping the same coach year after year and expecting different results.

9 wins, 10 wins. 9 wins, 6 wins, 9 wins, 5 wins. You were saying? Look. You don’t have to be happy with the product. You can have an opinion on the trajectory. But when you let the negatives consume your rationale then you are no longer rational.

You're also including an extra season and nine wins for Clark that shouldn't be there.

Explain please.

Seems pretty simple, I’m really trying to be nice here.

Five seasons, not six, the second 9 wins in your listing of six seasons did not happen.

9, 10, 6, 9, 5

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sc ... index.html

[311neers]

And insanity is keeping the same coach year after year and expecting different results.

9 wins, 10 wins. 9 wins, 6 wins, 9 wins, 5 wins. You were saying? Look. You don’t have to be happy with the product. You can have an opinion on the trajectory. But when you let the negatives consume your rationale then you are no longer rational.

You're also including an extra season and nine wins for Clark that shouldn't be there.

Explain please.

2020 9-3
2021 10-4
2022 6-6
2023 9-5
2024 5-6

And the 2020 and 2021 team were not his players/guys. Just like we blame Satt/Drink for not recruiting well enough their last years. Sure, he won 9 and 10 games. But I’m really looking at the last 3….with mostly his guys, coaches, and recruits/portal.

6-6 (4-6 FBS)
9-5 (8-5 FBS)
5-6 (4-6 FBS)

That’s good for 20-17 or 16-17 against FBS. Bad.

[Bootsy]

9 wins, 10 wins. 9 wins, 6 wins, 9 wins, 5 wins. You were saying? Look. You don’t have to be happy with the product. You can have an opinion on the trajectory. But when you let the negatives consume your rationale then you are no longer rational.

You're also including an extra season and nine wins for Clark that shouldn't be there.

Explain please.

2020 9-3
2021 10-4
2022 6-6
2023 9-5
2024 5-6

And the 2020 and 2021 team were not his players/guys. Just like we blame Satt/Drink for not recruiting well enough their last years. Sure, he won 9 and 10 games. But I’m really looking at the last 3….with mostly his guys, coaches, and recruits/portal.

6-6 (4-6 FBS)
9-5 (8-5 FBS)
5-6 (4-6 FBS)

That’s good for 20-17 or 16-17 against FBS. Bad.

This is a valid take. Coaches at other programs have done really well with existing players, then faded as their own recruits joined the program. Dennis Erickson’s tenure at the U immediately comes to mind.

[AppState89]

The call to not go for the FG at the half sums up everything

It wasn't the call to go for it.

It was running up the middle out of shotgun, a play call that has transcended whoever the offensive coordinator is during Clark's tenure.

Put Joey under center and have three tight ends push him in.

Going for it on 4th & goal is not the issue. It's the choice of play calling on 1st, 2nd & 3rd downs AND THEN the horrible decision for a shotgun run up the middle.

What made it worse was seeing the quick snap goal line TD in the 4th...The play is in the play book why didn't you use it then?

If we are going to run it up the middle, put Joey under center and have Marshall push him over the goal line. OR Joey under center with two backs (Castle & Marshall), give it to Castle and let Marshall push him over. Play calling just sucked.

[Howard Street Hooligan]

His first real game as a head coach was against Marshall on CBS. It didn't look like the same App team there and just about every game since then. It was obvious very early he's just not a good coach. Wish the best for the guy but if we don't have $500k to fire him then why did he get an extension in the first place. If we're so strapped for cash then quit giving out extensions without doing much.

[Stonewall]

I’ve had BOT members tell me the extension was pushed hard by Doug , to the point they were made to feel uncomfortable. And that it was a mistake.

[diehardapp18]

Who do we beat next year?

The FCS team

Georgia State

Maybe UNCC?

I feel like next years ceiling is 4 wins.