College Game Day

[AppStFan1]

On a side note. How many non App, Sun Belt folks have asked why we were 6-6 this year? I’m guessing it was fewer than those that bring up beating Michigan or A&M.

Agreed but we don’t want to be known as the program who had 15 minutes of fame twice and couldn’t do anything else. If we don’t continue to win then those memories will fade. I personally want to override those wins with some big NY6 or playoff wins in the next 5-7 years. We are in a tough league that is almost guaranteed to get in with our champion by 2024.

[BambooRdApp]

I care about winning and what millions think about our season. If millions care and/or casually care about App. St....may help brand and potentially help to get more showings on main networks of the mothership....which helps the football program in recruiting, etc if a kid thinks they have more opportunities to be on TV.
On a side note, I did like that NFL Network showed several college games last year. Hope we get one of those spots next year.

If we don’t win then they will eventually stop caring.

Thanks Captain Obvious

[AppStFan1]

I care about winning and what millions think about our season. If millions care and/or casually care about App. St....may help brand and potentially help to get more showings on main networks of the mothership....which helps the football program in recruiting, etc if a kid thinks they have more opportunities to be on TV.
On a side note, I did like that NFL Network showed several college games last year. Hope we get one of those spots next year.

If we don’t win then they will eventually stop caring.

Thanks Captain Obvious

You made the comment that you care what millions think of us and that few probably noticed how we finished. What they think won’t always be good though. If we win too much, millions won’t like us and want to see someone upset us. Look at Alabama for that example. I don’t care what they think about us as long as we win.

And when it was brought up whether people noticed this year they certainly did notice. I had a few people who messaged me weekly asking what happened and more who mentioned they could not believe we could not even get in a bowl game.

[BambooRdApp]

I care about winning and what millions think about our season. If millions care and/or casually care about App. St....may help brand and potentially help to get more showings on main networks of the mothership....which helps the football program in recruiting, etc if a kid thinks they have more opportunities to be on TV.
On a side note, I did like that NFL Network showed several college games last year. Hope we get one of those spots next year.

If we don’t win then they will eventually stop caring.

Thanks Captain Obvious

You made the comment that you care what millions think of us and that few probably noticed how we finished. What they think won’t always be good though. If we win too much, millions won’t like us and want to see someone upset us. Look at Alabama for that example. I don’t care what they think about us as long as we win.

And when it was brought up whether people noticed this year they certainly did notice. I had a few people who messaged me weekly asking what happened and more who mentioned they could not believe we could not even get in a bowl game.

Your comment is factually incorrect...I did not say "and that few probably noticed how we finished"..I could care less what you think or who is messaging as you are not the millions that I am referring to.

[AppStFan1]

I care about winning and what millions think about our season. If millions care and/or casually care about App. St....may help brand and potentially help to get more showings on main networks of the mothership....which helps the football program in recruiting, etc if a kid thinks they have more opportunities to be on TV.
On a side note, I did like that NFL Network showed several college games last year. Hope we get one of those spots next year.

If we don’t win then they will eventually stop caring.

Thanks Captain Obvious

You made the comment that you care what millions think of us and that few probably noticed how we finished. What they think won’t always be good though. If we win too much, millions won’t like us and want to see someone upset us. Look at Alabama for that example. I don’t care what they think about us as long as we win.

And when it was brought up whether people noticed this year they certainly did notice. I had a few people who messaged me weekly asking what happened and more who mentioned they could not believe we could not even get in a bowl game.

Your comment is factually incorrect...I did not say "and that few probably noticed how we finished"..I could care less what you think or who is messaging as you are not the millions that I am referring to.

What about my comment is incorrect? Many people don’t like Alabama because they win a lot and I did hear from several that were surprised we are not in a bowl game. They asked me what happened. Did you not have friends who pull for other teams ask you the same thing?

The millions you refer to who don’t notice are not noticing because we aren’t relevant unless we win, which Gillin has said before that we must win to be relevant.

I don’t care what millions think of us but I care if they notice us and the only way for that to happen is if we win. Game Day was good and all but honestly I would trade that whole experience to win 11-12 games and be Sun Champs. Winning titles matters way more than just being on Game Day. The winning is what got us on there and honestly winning big is the only way we can ever get them to come back.

[BambooRdApp]

If we don’t win then they will eventually stop caring.

Thanks Captain Obvious

You made the comment that you care what millions think of us and that few probably noticed how we finished. What they think won’t always be good though. If we win too much, millions won’t like us and want to see someone upset us. Look at Alabama for that example. I don’t care what they think about us as long as we win.

And when it was brought up whether people noticed this year they certainly did notice. I had a few people who messaged me weekly asking what happened and more who mentioned they could not believe we could not even get in a bowl game.

Your comment is factually incorrect...I did not say "and that few probably noticed how we finished"..I could care less what you think or who is messaging as you are not the millions that I am referring to.

What about my comment is incorrect? Many people don’t like Alabama because they win a lot and I did hear from several that were surprised we are not in a bowl game. They asked me what happened. Did you not have friends who pull for other teams ask you the same thing?

The millions you refer to who don’t notice are not noticing because we aren’t relevant unless we win, which Gillin has said before that we must win to be relevant.

I don’t care what millions think of us but I care if they notice us and the only way for that to happen is if we win. Game Day was good and all but honestly I would trade that whole experience to win 11-12 games and be Sun Champs. Winning titles matters way more than just being on Game Day. The winning is what got us on there and honestly winning big is the only way we can ever get them to come back.

Dude, move on. It is evident your reading comprehension skills are lacking and just want to continue with your "War and Peace" lengthy replies..

[AppStFan1]

Thanks Captain Obvious

You made the comment that you care what millions think of us and that few probably noticed how we finished. What they think won’t always be good though. If we win too much, millions won’t like us and want to see someone upset us. Look at Alabama for that example. I don’t care what they think about us as long as we win.

And when it was brought up whether people noticed this year they certainly did notice. I had a few people who messaged me weekly asking what happened and more who mentioned they could not believe we could not even get in a bowl game.

Your comment is factually incorrect...I did not say "and that few probably noticed how we finished"..I could care less what you think or who is messaging as you are not the millions that I am referring to.

What about my comment is incorrect? Many people don’t like Alabama because they win a lot and I did hear from several that were surprised we are not in a bowl game. They asked me what happened. Did you not have friends who pull for other teams ask you the same thing?

The millions you refer to who don’t notice are not noticing because we aren’t relevant unless we win, which Gillin has said before that we must win to be relevant.

I don’t care what millions think of us but I care if they notice us and the only way for that to happen is if we win. Game Day was good and all but honestly I would trade that whole experience to win 11-12 games and be Sun Champs. Winning titles matters way more than just being on Game Day. The winning is what got us on there and honestly winning big is the only way we can ever get them to come back.

Dude, move on. It is evident your reading comprehension skills are lacking and just want to continue with your "War and Peace" lengthy replies..

I guess when some are challenged on a comment of what is not factual they want to move on instead of defending it. I will try to shorten my replies in this new year though.

One last thing. All of us here want to win, obviously. I hope Shawn can turn it around and make us relevant but if he can’t improve us this year then someone else will be given the chance. I hope Shawn can get it done but if we have another 6-6 season I won’t care who actually does it as long as it gets done. Lol.

[goapps93]

On a side note. How many non App, Sun Belt folks have asked why we were 6-6 this year? I’m guessing it was fewer than those that bring up beating Michigan or A&M.

Agreed but we don’t want to be known as the program who had 15 minutes of fame twice and couldn’t do anything else. If we don’t continue to win then those memories will fade. I personally want to override those wins with some big NY6 or playoff wins in the next 5-7 years. We are in a tough league that is almost guaranteed to get in with our champion by 2024.

We had a lot more than 15 minutes of fame. Many just prefer to see the glass as half full rather than half empty. Either way the glass can be refilled.

[AppStFan1]

On a side note. How many non App, Sun Belt folks have asked why we were 6-6 this year? I’m guessing it was fewer than those that bring up beating Michigan or A&M.

Agreed but we don’t want to be known as the program who had 15 minutes of fame twice and couldn’t do anything else. If we don’t continue to win then those memories will fade. I personally want to override those wins with some big NY6 or playoff wins in the next 5-7 years. We are in a tough league that is almost guaranteed to get in with our champion by 2024.

We had a lot more than 15 minutes of fame. Many just prefer to see the glass as half full rather than half empty. Either way the glass can be refilled.

It was great for a couple of weeks with long lasting effects but regardless this season was a letdown. A lot of other schools had College Game Day as well and I would gladly trade that one win in to win the league title. If we don’t win the division, conference, and a bowl then we fell short on our goals. 2022 was a failure despite Game Day and I’m looking ahead to 2023 instead of dwelling on that weekend, which our coaching staff is as well.

I also don’t agree with some who think this is the start of a downward trend for us. We can definitely turn things around and I hope we do in 2023. We will see.

[bcoach]

I don't agree that we are looking at a downward trend at this point. I have to see another year. A year farther away from COVID. A year farther from extra years of eligibility. A year farther from previous recruiting, and another year of portal and nil. As far as Gameday nobody outside of us remembers we were on it. What matters is a winning record. Gameday does not show up in the record book. EVERYTHING is winning. Butts in seats, recruiting, sponsorships, donations. It is all about winning. Gameday is just a fun day for the fans every, well maybe just that one time. Great day but in the scope of things just a fun day. If you doubt that try this the next time someone asks you what happened to us this year. " Well we didn't do very well but we were on Gameday".

[AppStFan1]

I don't agree that we are looking at a downward trend at this point. I have to see another year. A year farther away from COVID. A year farther from extra years of eligibility. A year farther from previous recruiting, and another year of portal and nil. As far as Gameday nobody outside of us remembers we were on it. What matters is a winning record. Gameday does not show up in the record book. EVERYTHING is winning. Butts in seats, recruiting, sponsorships, donations. It is all about winning. Gameday is just a fun day for the fans every, well maybe just that one time. Great day but in the scope of things just a fun day. If you doubt that try this the next time someone asks you what happened to us this year. " Well we didn't do very well but we were on Gameday".

I agree with you here on the trend part. That’s why I said some think we are but I don’t think we have to be. This could just be one bad season. If 2023 is a repeat of 2022 though we will see a reset within the program.

The rest you said is pretty much fact. I couldn’t tell you who else was on GD this year, mainly because I don’t care, and I don’t mark the schools they go to. Nobody but our fans remembers. I honestly don’t care if we are on there again but I care if we win titles. We can’t make things like one upset and GD define us. We are a championship program and that’s our goal. Anything shy of a title and we didn’t meet all of our goals.

[WVAPPeer]

Does GameDay choose each site the prior week based on who sucks the most? - Who is on a downward trend? - No - they go to when winners play and/or extremely important games -
I strongly agree that we are NOT on a downward trend - However, I strongly disagree with statements that seem to suggest GameDay/Highlights on ESPN/ Plays of the Year mean nothing because our record was 6-6 - If you think football fans nationwide - real college football fans - don't know about APP and Boone you are highly mistaken and they didn't get that info from watching WXII, etc.

[Appmountaineers19]

Since we are talking about #'s and winning - Did you know that since 2020 SC's first year APP has the 24th best winning percentage at 65.8%.

Did you know APP has the 16th most wins at 25 since that time? MUST be inspite of him right?

[Stonewall]

One year is not a trend , two not really , three yeah .Are we trending without a championship , yes. A winning program , no.So we have a winning program at present , but not a championship program.As I see it anyway from my burrow.

[PhillyApp1]

Since we are talking about #'s and winning - Did you know that since 2020 SC's first year APP has the 24th best winning percentage at 65.8%.

Did you know APP has the 16th most wins at 25 since that time? MUST be inspite of him right?

Great news!! Really

Now tell me what App record is against teams with winning records for the last 2 years?

And tell me if you think our players are progressing/developing on the field?

Last last half of 2021 and all of 2022 have been hard to watch as a 28 year App fan.... 2023 needs to show improvement or ???? Just saying.... I am hoping thing trend back to Winning against both losing teams and most Winning teams

[Appmountaineers19]

Since we are talking about #'s and winning - Did you know that since 2020 SC's first year APP has the 24th best winning percentage at 65.8%.

Did you know APP has the 16th most wins at 25 since that time? MUST be inspite of him right?

Great news!! Really

Now tell me what App record is against teams with winning records for the last 2 years?

And tell me if you think our players are progressing/developing on the field?

Last last half of 2021 and all of 2022 have been hard to watch as a 28 year App fan.... 2023 needs to show improvement or ???? Just saying.... I am hoping thing trend back to Winning against both losing teams and most Winning teams

Again I'm not here to convince you of what to think. 9-3 10-4 6-6. Sh%t was not great this year. Lots of factors involved. On paper recruiting has gotten better. Need more $$$ to retain coaches. 12-1 11-2 gonna be hard to attain every year if things aren't rectified behind the scenes. AND yes SC needs to continue to get better as well

[Stonewall]

Money.For coaches, and everything else that championship FBS requires.It is the time of year to write that check , or make that pledge.

[PhillyApp1]

I have a coaching question....... Are there well qualified winning coaches in FCS that would be able to be quality APP coaches?

Why does the coach we need have to cost P5 money?

[AppStateNews]

I have a coaching question....... Are there well qualified winning coaches in FCS that would be able to be quality APP coaches?

Why does the coach we need have to cost P5 money?

There are, but they'll leave the moment about 75% of the other programs call because they can pay more...

We were near the bottom of assistants salary pool. It's been increased but I'm not sure how much or how it compares.

[Appmountaineers19]

I have a coaching question....... Are there well qualified winning coaches in FCS that would be able to be quality APP coaches?

Why does the coach we need have to cost P5 money?

I don't thinks is even about P5 money. It's about being competitive with upper G5's more so.