Tony Petersen stats at previous jobs

[The Rock]

This board may implode next year once we lose 4 starting OL, 3 WRs, and our QB?

Therefore, what may we expect next season? 4-7, 5-6 or worse? If so, you're correct this board will implode.

If App goes 4-7 next season with the highest ranked recruiting class ever, this board SHOULD implode and Tony Peterson, and probably Shawn Clark, should absolutely be fired.

So we aren’t giving time to develop talent any more? Every player we sign next week is expected to come in with the skill, knowledge and body type to not
only compete, but win immediately?
I guess that’s why satterfield went undefeated his first 2 seasons as HC??

Comparing the talent level left for Satt to what we’ve recruited the last three years isn’t in the same stratosphere.

The point was that he had the recruits that would be successful on the roster, but it took a couple years to develop them and become successful

[JMappfan5]

Therefore, what may we expect next season? 4-7, 5-6 or worse? If so, you're correct this board will implode.

If App goes 4-7 next season with the highest ranked recruiting class ever, this board SHOULD implode and Tony Peterson, and probably Shawn Clark, should absolutely be fired.

So we aren’t giving time to develop talent any more? Every player we sign next week is expected to come in with the skill, knowledge and body type to not
only compete, but win immediately?
I guess that’s why satterfield went undefeated his first 2 seasons as HC??

Comparing the talent level left for Satt to what we’ve recruited the last three years isn’t in the same stratosphere.

The point was that he had the recruits that would be successful on the roster, but it took a couple years to develop them and become successful

I agree with you ROCK! If we are depending on true Fr/RS-Fr next year, then we can't expect a 9/10 win season. It takes time for talent to develop and for these kids to get stronger. Some of our fans are delusional...we SHOULD go undefeated every year! LMAO!!!

[Saint3333]

The point is the last two classes have been on campus and should have been developed.

[The Rock]

So is that peterson's fault? he has been here less than a year. Could it be playing time in actual games is where real development happens?

[NavyApp]

So is that peterson's fault? he has been here less than a year. Could it be playing time in actual games is where real development happens?

Some of it I would say is directly Petersen's fault. I remember during one of the preseason media sessions he flat out said he was only giving practice reps to ZT and Jacob. While I understand that rational on the surface, I still was flummoxed. So basically all the other QBs on the roster just watch at practice, the coaching staff essentially has no idea what it has. At some point you have to start developing the future.

Also I don't understand why we are just focusing on the last two recruiting classes, we will have rising juniors and seniors who should be more than capable of keeping this thing rolling!

[Stonewall]

Shawn

For:
Hiring Petersen?
Not taking the play calling duties from him?
Not firing Petersen mid season?

I don't have an opinion on Petersen.The only opinion that counts is that of the Head Coach.He works for Shawn , as do all the staff.I hold Shawn responsible for results - good or bad.I believe we have underperformed and underachieved .That is on him.He would likely tell you the same.

[Stonewall]

So is that peterson's fault? he has been here less than a year. Could it be playing time in actual games is where real development happens?

Some of it I would say is directly Petersen's fault. I remember during one of the preseason media sessions he flat out said he was only giving practice reps to ZT and Jacob. While I understand that rational on the surface, I still was flummoxed. So basically all the other QBs on the roster just watch at practice, the coaching staff essentially has no idea what it has. At some point you have to start developing the future.

Also I don't understand why we are just focusing on the last two recruiting classes, we will have rising juniors and seniors who should be more than capable of keeping this thing rolling!

You would find Napier's system , modeled after Saban's interesting.Everyone gets equal reps at every practice-essentially they have four going at once.

[App91]

It is nice to say that we should have called “other” plays to adjust to our personnel situation. Again there is only so much you can do “in season” that would utilize wrs differently. They have trained a set number of plays and that’s it.... and then it’s about executing those plays better than your opponent. This is where inexperienced players get exposed... going against experienced CB’s and Safeties.

Wait, so you mean to tell me you think the playbook is set beginning of season and not changed throughout the year? It appears that is the case this year, but every other college playbook evolves throughout the year. They aren't trained on a set number of plays and that's it. The WRs are trained on the entire route tree all year.

Regardless, if that was the case, then it is on Petersen still for only giving the players long developing plays in his playbook....

I trust Clark and Petersen will make the changes. They are well aware of what is needed.

It’s ironic. As I read this, I hear Troy Aikman saying on Thursday night football say “the great playcallers really know how to take their offense and adapt it to the personnel on the field”.

With TP we’re heading towards mediocrity. I would be interested to hear what players think.

This is all i have been saying, you gameplan to fit your personnel when you cannot change that personnel to fit your system.

[PhillyApp1]

I think we have gone in full circle.... a couple of times
Tomorrow will tell us more, so we can spin again

We have just 2 more spins before we spin for 8 months, so sad

[ncman071]

I really don't believe Peterson can be completely to blame for inconsistant play calling and execution. Dont people here realize we have been doing play calling by committee for years at App State? I think Clark could very well be telling Peterson to focus heavily on the run at the expense of our passing game..even when the running game is not working. He's a former offensive lineman and really thinks our O line is something great...and they have way underperformed this season.

Now, if Peterson is the only one calling our offense which i dont think is the case, then if we drop in production next year..then its time to go

[asu66]

I don't believe that Zac Thomas has enjoyed playing under Peterson and I seriously doubt that he returns to play for App next season. That means that unless Huesman returns, we'll have a QB with just about zero snaps in a collegiate football game running the show from the get-go. I don't like that look from this seat.

BTW, I'm not a Peterson fan. We can and should do better.

[AppStFan1]

If App goes 4-7 next season with the highest ranked recruiting class ever, this board SHOULD implode and Tony Peterson, and probably Shawn Clark, should absolutely be fired.

So we aren’t giving time to develop talent any more? Every player we sign next week is expected to come in with the skill, knowledge and body type to not
only compete, but win immediately?
I guess that’s why satterfield went undefeated his first 2 seasons as HC??

Comparing the talent level left for Satt to what we’ve recruited the last three years isn’t in the same stratosphere.

The point was that he had the recruits that would be successful on the roster, but it took a couple years to develop them and become successful

I agree with you ROCK! If we are depending on true Fr/RS-Fr next year, then we can't expect a 9/10 win season. It takes time for talent to develop and for these kids to get stronger. Some of our fans are delusional...we SHOULD go undefeated every year! LMAO!!!

I expected 4-5 losses next year, which is why I had put pressure this year and felt we should aim for undefeated or at least finish ranked. We needed another big year because of the likely slide in 2021. If we lose Zac and most of this offense then we will be young and could lose a lot more games.

What will this message board look like if we lose to ECU, Miami, Marshall, Louisiana, CCU, and either Ga Sou, Ga St, or Ark St? We could easily go 6-6 or 5-7 next year if we have to replace so many guys and don't have an all-conf QB. If we have a bad year like that then we lose recruiting momentum. Nobody expected to win the SBC in 2021 but I don't think anyone really expected to lose say 4 games in 2020 prior to what should be a down year in 2021.

[WataugaMan]

I think Clark could very well be telling Peterson to focus heavily on the run at the expense of our passing game..even when the running game is not working. He's a former offensive lineman and really thinks our O line is something great

Interesting you brought this up, at times I've often thought the same, particularly hearing some of SC's comments.

[Yosefus]

Bowl eligible next year will be a win. It will be a rebuilding year. Much worse will raise questions, much better will be promising for the future. Peterson track record is concerning though, don't recall a lot of raised eyebrow when he was hired. We shall see. Looking forward to packed stadiums next season.

[Stonewall]

So we aren’t giving time to develop talent any more? Every player we sign next week is expected to come in with the skill, knowledge and body type to not
only compete, but win immediately?
I guess that’s why satterfield went undefeated his first 2 seasons as HC??

Comparing the talent level left for Satt to what we’ve recruited the last three years isn’t in the same stratosphere.

The point was that he had the recruits that would be successful on the roster, but it took a couple years to develop them and become successful

I agree with you ROCK! If we are depending on true Fr/RS-Fr next year, then we can't expect a 9/10 win season. It takes time for talent to develop and for these kids to get stronger. Some of our fans are delusional...we SHOULD go undefeated every year! LMAO!!!

I expected 4-5 losses next year, which is why I had put pressure this year and felt we should aim for undefeated or at least finish ranked. We needed another big year because of the likely slide in 2021. If we lose Zac and most of this offense then we will be young and could lose a lot more games.

What will this message board look like if we lose to ECU, Miami, Marshall, Louisiana, CCU, and either Ga Sou, Ga St, or Ark St? We could easily go 6-6 or 5-7 next year if we have to replace so many guys and don't have an all-conf QB. If we have a bad year like that then we lose recruiting momentum. Nobody expected to win the SBC in 2021 but I don't think anyone really expected to lose say 4 games in 2020 prior to what should be a down year in 2021.

Agree on expectations and timing.Pretty much the crux of the issue.

[MrCraig]

This board may implode next year once we lose 4 starting OL, 3 WRs, and our QB?

Therefore, what may we expect next season? 4-7, 5-6 or worse? If so, you're correct this board will implode.

If App goes 4-7 next season with the highest ranked recruiting class ever, this board SHOULD implode and Tony Peterson, and probably Shawn Clark, should absolutely be fired.

So we aren’t giving time to develop talent any more? Every player we sign next week is expected to come in with the skill, knowledge and body type to not
only compete, but win immediately?
I guess that’s why satterfield went undefeated his first 2 seasons as HC??

I didn't say they should be undefeated, but 4-7, with the returning talent and new talent coming in would be an abject failure. Also, comparing Satterfield's first two years to Clark's is garbage because they are literally in two completely different situations. Satterfield was guiding a team through an FCS-FBS transition, so he was playing FBS teams with FCS talent. Clark is inheritting a full FBS roster and bringing in the highest rated recruiting class App has ever seen. If you go 4-7 with that, you deserve to lose your job.

Look around the country. I live in Georgia, and a LOT of bulldog fans are losing patience with Kirby Smart because he is consistently bringing in top 5 recruiting classes but not getting top 5 results. Jim Harbaugh is going to be fired from Michigan because he can't beat Ohio State, despite have some pretty successful seasons.

[AppStFan1]

Comparing the talent level left for Satt to what we’ve recruited the last three years isn’t in the same stratosphere.

The point was that he had the recruits that would be successful on the roster, but it took a couple years to develop them and become successful

I agree with you ROCK! If we are depending on true Fr/RS-Fr next year, then we can't expect a 9/10 win season. It takes time for talent to develop and for these kids to get stronger. Some of our fans are delusional...we SHOULD go undefeated every year! LMAO!!!

I expected 4-5 losses next year, which is why I had put pressure this year and felt we should aim for undefeated or at least finish ranked. We needed another big year because of the likely slide in 2021. If we lose Zac and most of this offense then we will be young and could lose a lot more games.

What will this message board look like if we lose to ECU, Miami, Marshall, Louisiana, CCU, and either Ga Sou, Ga St, or Ark St? We could easily go 6-6 or 5-7 next year if we have to replace so many guys and don't have an all-conf QB. If we have a bad year like that then we lose recruiting momentum. Nobody expected to win the SBC in 2021 but I don't think anyone really expected to lose say 4 games in 2020 prior to what should be a down year in 2021.

Agree on expectations and timing.Pretty much the crux of the issue.

And how much talk will there be on here at the end of 2021 that Clark should be on hot seat if that happens? I don't want to see that talk but it will be here and stay until we win the division again. The good news is that Chadwell and Napier likely won't be in SBC in 2022 but anything can happen and they could still return. If Chadwell is back in 2022 then I would venture to guess that he will be a 3-time SBC Champion and we will be forgotten. I don't want to see that!

[BambooRdApp]

The point was that he had the recruits that would be successful on the roster, but it took a couple years to develop them and become successful

I agree with you ROCK! If we are depending on true Fr/RS-Fr next year, then we can't expect a 9/10 win season. It takes time for talent to develop and for these kids to get stronger. Some of our fans are delusional...we SHOULD go undefeated every year! LMAO!!!

I expected 4-5 losses next year, which is why I had put pressure this year and felt we should aim for undefeated or at least finish ranked. We needed another big year because of the likely slide in 2021. If we lose Zac and most of this offense then we will be young and could lose a lot more games.

What will this message board look like if we lose to ECU, Miami, Marshall, Louisiana, CCU, and either Ga Sou, Ga St, or Ark St? We could easily go 6-6 or 5-7 next year if we have to replace so many guys and don't have an all-conf QB. If we have a bad year like that then we lose recruiting momentum. Nobody expected to win the SBC in 2021 but I don't think anyone really expected to lose say 4 games in 2020 prior to what should be a down year in 2021.

Agree on expectations and timing.Pretty much the crux of the issue.

And how much talk will there be on here at the end of 2021 that Clark should be on hot seat if that happens? I don't want to see that talk but it will be here and stay until we win the division again. The good news is that Chadwell and Napier likely won't be in SBC in 2022 but anything can happen and they could still return. If Chadwell is back in 2022 then I would venture to guess that he will be a 3-time SBC Champion and we will be forgotten. I don't want to see that!

I take a different stance. I hope that the other two coaches are still here and we win the conference. Seems to discount our HC ability and/or that we can only maintain or achieve a conference championship if other coaches leave. We have been a winning program for a long time. I hope we continue to be no. matter who is coaching at the other schools.

[asu66]

I don't believe that Zac Thomas has enjoyed playing under Peterson and I seriously doubt that he returns to play for App next season. That means that unless Huesman returns, we'll have a QB with just about zero snaps in a collegiate football game running the show from the get-go. I don't like that image from this seat. Our future is coming at us at warp speed.

BTW, I'm not a Peterson fan. We can and should do better.

[AppStFan1]

I agree with you ROCK! If we are depending on true Fr/RS-Fr next year, then we can't expect a 9/10 win season. It takes time for talent to develop and for these kids to get stronger. Some of our fans are delusional...we SHOULD go undefeated every year! LMAO!!!

I expected 4-5 losses next year, which is why I had put pressure this year and felt we should aim for undefeated or at least finish ranked. We needed another big year because of the likely slide in 2021. If we lose Zac and most of this offense then we will be young and could lose a lot more games.

What will this message board look like if we lose to ECU, Miami, Marshall, Louisiana, CCU, and either Ga Sou, Ga St, or Ark St? We could easily go 6-6 or 5-7 next year if we have to replace so many guys and don't have an all-conf QB. If we have a bad year like that then we lose recruiting momentum. Nobody expected to win the SBC in 2021 but I don't think anyone really expected to lose say 4 games in 2020 prior to what should be a down year in 2021.

Agree on expectations and timing.Pretty much the crux of the issue.

And how much talk will there be on here at the end of 2021 that Clark should be on hot seat if that happens? I don't want to see that talk but it will be here and stay until we win the division again. The good news is that Chadwell and Napier likely won't be in SBC in 2022 but anything can happen and they could still return. If Chadwell is back in 2022 then I would venture to guess that he will be a 3-time SBC Champion and we will be forgotten. I don't want to see that!

I take a different stance. I hope that the other two coaches are still here and we win the conference. Seems to discount our HC ability and/or that we can only maintain or achieve a conference championship if other coaches leave. We have been a winning program for a long time. I hope we continue to be no. matter who is coaching at the other schools.

I did not say that because I think we can't beat them but because I want to see how those programs do when they have turnover like we have had to do. It is easy to talk smack when you don't go through the same things as other programs. That is the only reason I said that. We should continue to be a winning program. I just fear we take a step back next year with Zac Thomas and most of the offense gone. I do expect us back in the hunt for the title in 2022 though.