This ones on the coaches

[Rekdiver]

Coaches know it’s on them. Don’t need us to tell ‘em.

[hapapp]

In the first 20 seconds of Drinks' postgame presser, he says that they made their field goal and we didn't and equated it to being the one we wished we had back. I absolutely hated that comment. The kick, which still should have been made, was in the middle of the third quarter and there was alot of ball played after that. I don't get why he said that as his first blame comment, especially considering GaSo missed the exact same kick in the fourth quarter. It's not as simple as we missed a field goal and lost by three.

Also, I don't think Drink respected the rivalry the way he needed to.

I Agree. The way the wind was blowing, I thought all day that kicking/punting would be impossible. Subostch had another rough punting day IMO, and that wasn’t mentioned. Can’t see blaming the kicker on a night with 40mph winds.
I have asked this question before, and I still wonder; who is the “hype man” on the coaching staff? Look at the passion that we lost in the sidelines. Ivey, Ledford, Iron Mike, Cardwell. Those guys knew how to get players ready to play. Who does that now? I still am in disbelief on how flat and uninterested our team seemed for most of the game. You are playing your most hated rival at home a year after they knocked you out of the top 25. There was no emotion. To me, that is on the coaches.

I agree the “Hype Coach” factor is not as intense this year.
I also believe Howell “Freshman All American” should be punting.

Howell won the job over Subostch last year and was great. Howell had 1 bad punt against ETSU and was benched. Subostch has been inconsistent this year with bad games coming in the most critical games such as ULL and another tough game against South Al. Obviously the coaches see the performances every day in practice, but sometimes better performance in practice don’t always translate to better performances in real game situations.

Just watch these guys in warm ups and tell me who punts better. It isn't Howell. Subostch didn't have a great game but who would under the circumstances. With S punting thus far this year, the opposition is getting little to no yardage on return. Teams are averaging .9 yards per punt return this season and he is averaging 42.3 yds/punt.

I'm sure they are in an ongoing competition for the job. We have a coach who works with them every day. I trust his judgment.

[The Rock]

In the first 20 seconds of Drinks' postgame presser, he says that they made their field goal and we didn't and equated it to being the one we wished we had back. I absolutely hated that comment. The kick, which still should have been made, was in the middle of the third quarter and there was alot of ball played after that. I don't get why he said that as his first blame comment, especially considering GaSo missed the exact same kick in the fourth quarter. It's not as simple as we missed a field goal and lost by three.

Also, I don't think Drink respected the rivalry the way he needed to.

I Agree. The way the wind was blowing, I thought all day that kicking/punting would be impossible. Subostch had another rough punting day IMO, and that wasn’t mentioned. Can’t see blaming the kicker on a night with 40mph winds.
I have asked this question before, and I still wonder; who is the “hype man” on the coaching staff? Look at the passion that we lost in the sidelines. Ivey, Ledford, Iron Mike, Cardwell. Those guys knew how to get players ready to play. Who does that now? I still am in disbelief on how flat and uninterested our team seemed for most of the game. You are playing your most hated rival at home a year after they knocked you out of the top 25. There was no emotion. To me, that is on the coaches.

I agree the “Hype Coach” factor is not as intense this year.
I also believe Howell “Freshman All American” should be punting.

Howell won the job over Subostch last year and was great. Howell had 1 bad punt against ETSU and was benched. Subostch has been inconsistent this year with bad games coming in the most critical games such as ULL and another tough game against South Al. Obviously the coaches see the performances every day in practice, but sometimes better performance in practice don’t always translate to better performances in real game situations.

Just watch these guys in warm ups and tell me who punts better. It isn't Howell. Subostch didn't have a great game but who would under the circumstances. With S punting thus far this year, the opposition is getting little to no yardage on return. Teams are averaging .9 yards per punt return this season and he is averaging 42.3 yds/punt.

I'm sure they are in an ongoing competition for the job. We have a coach who works with them every day. I trust his judgment.

As I said earlier, being the better in practice or warmups doesn’t necessarily equate to best in game action.
Let’s look at the last few games from him:
GS-7 punts 38.6 avg yds, 0 inside the 20
USA- 6-38.3, 0 inside 20.
ULM-4-48.3 0 inside 20 (good avg)
ULL- 6-41, 0 inside 20.

Kicking hard or far is only part of the equation. Having the finesse and skill to pin someone deep in their own territory is a huge part of it.

[hapapp]

I Agree. The way the wind was blowing, I thought all day that kicking/punting would be impossible. Subostch had another rough punting day IMO, and that wasn’t mentioned. Can’t see blaming the kicker on a night with 40mph winds.
I have asked this question before, and I still wonder; who is the “hype man” on the coaching staff? Look at the passion that we lost in the sidelines. Ivey, Ledford, Iron Mike, Cardwell. Those guys knew how to get players ready to play. Who does that now? I still am in disbelief on how flat and uninterested our team seemed for most of the game. You are playing your most hated rival at home a year after they knocked you out of the top 25. There was no emotion. To me, that is on the coaches.

I agree the “Hype Coach” factor is not as intense this year.
I also believe Howell “Freshman All American” should be punting.

Howell won the job over Subostch last year and was great. Howell had 1 bad punt against ETSU and was benched. Subostch has been inconsistent this year with bad games coming in the most critical games such as ULL and another tough game against South Al. Obviously the coaches see the performances every day in practice, but sometimes better performance in practice don’t always translate to better performances in real game situations.

Just watch these guys in warm ups and tell me who punts better. It isn't Howell. Subostch didn't have a great game but who would under the circumstances. With S punting thus far this year, the opposition is getting little to no yardage on return. Teams are averaging .9 yards per punt return this season and he is averaging 42.3 yds/punt.

I'm sure they are in an ongoing competition for the job. We have a coach who works with them every day. I trust his judgment.

As I said earlier, being the better in practice or warmups doesn’t necessarily equate to best in game action.
Let’s look at the last few games from him:
GS-7 punts 38.6 avg yds, 0 inside the 20
USA- 6-38.3, 0 inside 20.
ULM-4-48.3 0 inside 20 (good avg)
ULL- 6-41, 0 inside 20.

Kicking hard or far is only part of the equation. Having the finesse and skill to pin someone deep in their own territory is a huge part of it.

Well, if one consistently outperforms the others in practice or warmups, then why would you use the punter who is more inconsistent in those settings. In every pregame, S consistently has more distance and longer hang time than Howell. I'm assuming the same is taking place daily in practice. If that wasn't the case, I don't believe Link would go with S. HIs last two outings have been his worst (though its hard to complain about the GS game). so maybe before the season's end, Howell will win back the job but I don't think he wins it because he was the better punter last year.

[Yosef10]

I agree with several here who think Drinkwitz is struggling with the tug of war from the HC and OC perspectives. I'm sure it's tough for him, and it's tough to watch sometimes too.

Not sure if it was just me, but Drink looked very uncomfortable on the sideline last night. He’s obviously not acclimated to the Boone winter weather yet and it impacted his play calling.

Do some of y’all actually believe the horseshit you type on this website?

[appvette]

On our side: the student section was filled today. The sold seats looked half empty, and the bandwagon fans left in the 3rd. This is bad football culture. I understand people having their reasons to leave, but SO many people left after that second touchdown in the third. Nothing makes me angrier.

We didn’t get there until mid-first half. Walking to the stadium we passed students who were already leaving. Pathetic.

You missed a good portion of the game yet you're criticizing people for leaving early?

[scatman77]

On our side: the student section was filled today. The sold seats looked half empty, and the bandwagon fans left in the 3rd. This is bad football culture. I understand people having their reasons to leave, but SO many people left after that second touchdown in the third. Nothing makes me angrier.

We didn’t get there until mid-first half. Walking to the stadium we passed students who were already leaving. Pathetic.

You missed a good portion of the game yet you're criticizing people for leaving early?

Whoa...time out Sparky. I was waiting on my son to arrive at our VRBO. He didn't get to leave home until 4:00 and it was a 3:45 drive. By the time he got there, we drove to town, parked in the Library Deck, and walked to the stadium it was mid-first half, maybe into the second quarter. I'm a former student athletic trainer from the Brakefield years in the 70's, long-time Yosef Club member and Former Athletes Association board member, and I stayed until the bitter cold end hoping for a miracle finish. I don't need a lecture.

[The Rock]

I agree the “Hype Coach” factor is not as intense this year.
I also believe Howell “Freshman All American” should be punting.

Howell won the job over Subostch last year and was great. Howell had 1 bad punt against ETSU and was benched. Subostch has been inconsistent this year with bad games coming in the most critical games such as ULL and another tough game against South Al. Obviously the coaches see the performances every day in practice, but sometimes better performance in practice don’t always translate to better performances in real game situations.

Just watch these guys in warm ups and tell me who punts better. It isn't Howell. Subostch didn't have a great game but who would under the circumstances. With S punting thus far this year, the opposition is getting little to no yardage on return. Teams are averaging .9 yards per punt return this season and he is averaging 42.3 yds/punt.

I'm sure they are in an ongoing competition for the job. We have a coach who works with them every day. I trust his judgment.

As I said earlier, being the better in practice or warmups doesn’t necessarily equate to best in game action.
Let’s look at the last few games from him:
GS-7 punts 38.6 avg yds, 0 inside the 20
USA- 6-38.3, 0 inside 20.
ULM-4-48.3 0 inside 20 (good avg)
ULL- 6-41, 0 inside 20.

Kicking hard or far is only part of the equation. Having the finesse and skill to pin someone deep in their own territory is a huge part of it.

Well, if one consistently outperforms the others in practice or warmups, then why would you use the punter who is more inconsistent in those settings. In every pregame, S consistently has more distance and longer hang time than Howell. I'm assuming the same is taking place daily in practice. If that wasn't the case, I don't believe Link would go with S. HIs last two outings have been his worst (though its hard to complain about the GS game). so maybe before the season's end, Howell will win back the job but I don't think he wins it because he was the better punter last year.

I get your point, but if the person who performs best in practice starts making a habit of not performing the same way in the game, shouldn’t you give the person who has proven themself to perform at a high rate another shot?
And more distance and hang time does not always equate to a better punt. Burying someone deep in their territory is better than a 5 second punt that lands in the end zone .
It’s not that he has done terrible, but I just felt like Howell did a great job last year and performed better overall last year than Subostch has this year.

[AppAlum1]

I could not disagree more with the title of this post. The outcome of the game was NOT on the coaches. Here is what I saw (and I sat through the entire game):

1) the weather appeared to affect App's game (passes to set up the run) more than it did GaSo's game;

2) Zac's passes appeared to be knuckling in the wind, ESPECIALLY when we were going toward's the new field house. ALL the scoring occurred (except for the lone field goal) in the horseshoe end of the stadium, because that is the direction the wind was blowing. The wind was constant, and it got stronger as the game went on, with fierce gusts at the end. The knuckling effect seemed to explain why normally sure handed receivers dropped some passes that hit them in the hands. It also explains the couple times the pass hit the defender in the chest and they did not intercept it.

3) App's run game ran into trouble when GaSo could count on a shortened passing game & could load the box. GaSo's defense of the run was very good. We really needed a bruiser of a back; we sorely missed Peoples.

4) App's D took some time to get oriented to the option game. I am sure the short week did not help. The two long runs appeared to me to be on the inside LBs who were out of place. But, then in the 4th qtr., App's D stopped GaSo and gave us a chance to tie or win.

5) Kicking game. I thought we had made that field goal. GaSo made theirs with a miracle. The wind going that direction (towards the construction) was just too much. And, punting, there were a few punts going towards the horseshoe end where Sobatch looked to me like he kicked it too low. Had he punted it up higher, the wind might have carried it out of the stadium.

Anyway, that is what I saw. It was not on the coaches. They made the best of what we had in front of us. And, we did have a chance there at the end. If I had to blame this loss on any one thing, it would be Peoples' injury. His strong, quick, and speedy runs is what we lacked. Don't get me wrong, Evans is a great RB, but his strength is speed; we need a bruiser, and from what I saw last year, that's Peoples.

[hapapp]

Howell won the job over Subostch last year and was great. Howell had 1 bad punt against ETSU and was benched. Subostch has been inconsistent this year with bad games coming in the most critical games such as ULL and another tough game against South Al. Obviously the coaches see the performances every day in practice, but sometimes better performance in practice don’t always translate to better performances in real game situations.

Just watch these guys in warm ups and tell me who punts better. It isn't Howell. Subostch didn't have a great game but who would under the circumstances. With S punting thus far this year, the opposition is getting little to no yardage on return. Teams are averaging .9 yards per punt return this season and he is averaging 42.3 yds/punt.

I'm sure they are in an ongoing competition for the job. We have a coach who works with them every day. I trust his judgment.

As I said earlier, being the better in practice or warmups doesn’t necessarily equate to best in game action.
Let’s look at the last few games from him:
GS-7 punts 38.6 avg yds, 0 inside the 20
USA- 6-38.3, 0 inside 20.
ULM-4-48.3 0 inside 20 (good avg)
ULL- 6-41, 0 inside 20.

Kicking hard or far is only part of the equation. Having the finesse and skill to pin someone deep in their own territory is a huge part of it.

Well, if one consistently outperforms the others in practice or warmups, then why would you use the punter who is more inconsistent in those settings. In every pregame, S consistently has more distance and longer hang time than Howell. I'm assuming the same is taking place daily in practice. If that wasn't the case, I don't believe Link would go with S. HIs last two outings have been his worst (though its hard to complain about the GS game). so maybe before the season's end, Howell will win back the job but I don't think he wins it because he was the better punter last year.

I get your point, but if the person who performs best in practice starts making a habit of not performing the same way in the game, shouldn’t you give the person who has proven themself to perform at a high rate another shot?
And more distance and hang time does not always equate to a better punt. Burying someone deep in their territory is better than a 5 second punt that lands in the end zone .
It’s not that he has done terrible, but I just felt like Howell did a great job last year and performed better overall last year than Subostch has this year.

No argument on your last point.

[nomadb]

100% of play calls fail when the players fail to execute.

Adjustments can and should be made if the defense is taking something away from you, but you still have to execute.

Our team did not execute.

[NewApp]

100% of play calls fail when the players fail to execute.

Adjustments can and should be made if the defense is taking something away from you, but you still have to execute.

Our team did not execute.

Yep. Good point.

[APPdiesel]

GS is in the past. Move on to South Carolina.

[WataugaMan]

Agreed, a new streak begins Saturday.