Top 25 Watch (real thread)

[NavyApp]

JMO, but hierarchy of season goals:

- NY6 bid
- Top 25 ranking
- Sun Belt title/10+ wins
- Bowl win

Not trying to disagree with you but No Sunbelt title/10+ wins coupled with a top 25 ranking there is no shot at NY6. I get you point though.

[ah59396]

JMO, but hierarchy of season goals:

- NY6 bid
- Top 25 ranking
- Sun Belt title/10+ wins
- Bowl win

These are all secondary to the primary goal:

Did we make meaningful friendships along the way?

[InFor6More]

Arguing fringe top 25 rankings and program impact is so much better than the stranglehold we had on the FCS rankings. No joke.

[AppUSMC]

I was in the athletic offices this week and looked all over for our top 25 ranking trophy we got last year. I just couldn’t find the dern thing. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I found 3 National Championship trophies and more conference championship trophies than I could count. Thanks in advance!

[InFor6More]

Look those championships were great and I’ll never forget those times and the great teams and players that we had. However, the progress that this program has made is nothing short of amazing and we are on the cusp of being a perennial top 20-25 team and this era that we’re in is so much more impactful than those days of yesteryear.

[EastHallApp]

JMO, but hierarchy of season goals:

- NY6 bid
- Top 25 ranking
- Sun Belt title/10+ wins
- Bowl win

Not trying to disagree with you but No Sunbelt title/10+ wins coupled with a top 25 ranking there is no shot at NY6. I get you point though.

Right, they’re not mutually exclusive.

[appvette]

I was in the athletic offices this week and looked all over for our top 25 ranking trophy we got last year. I just couldn’t find the dern thing. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I found 3 National Championship trophies and more conference championship trophies than I could count. Thanks in advance!

I doubt we got a trophy for beating Michigan so it must not have been important.

[AppStFan1]

Actually, the more we talk about being ranked, or receiving votes and being close to the Top 25, the better. We need as much good PR as you can get. Combine that with wins and accomplishing our goals, we set ourselves up for a good ranking and NY6 bid. If we go undefeated and don’t get talked about or don’t sniff the 25-35 “rank”, we have zero chance of being relevant.

I know what you are thinking but we all know if we are 7-0 we will be ranked. Even if just 24-25. If we go undefeated we will be ranked in the top 20 for sure and be a NY6 candidate but this talk is completely stupid right now because one loss destroys that.

All we need to worry about is #BeatCoastal #1-0 and keep focus on each opponent. Things will work its way out. No reason to get grey hairs worrying about something even our coaches and players can't control.

[AppStFan1]

I was in the athletic offices this week and looked all over for our top 25 ranking trophy we got last year. I just couldn’t find the dern thing. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I found 3 National Championship trophies and more conference championship trophies than I could count. Thanks in advance!

You are right in that thought except that we did not get one for Michigan but we know the lasting impression. With that said, I'm sure we will have a plaque or trophy made if we finish nationally ranked but having one for the middle of the season is pointless. We have too many fans who worry about things that are pointless considering where our stated goals for the end of the year are.

#BeatCoastal

[EastHallApp]

Actually, the more we talk about being ranked, or receiving votes and being close to the Top 25, the better. We need as much good PR as you can get. Combine that with wins and accomplishing our goals, we set ourselves up for a good ranking and NY6 bid. If we go undefeated and don’t get talked about or don’t sniff the 25-35 “rank”, we have zero chance of being relevant.

I know what you are thinking but we all know if we are 7-0 we will be ranked. Even if just 24-25. If we go undefeated we will be ranked in the top 20 for sure and be a NY6 candidate but this talk is completely stupid right now because one loss destroys that.

All we need to worry about is #BeatCoastal #1-0 and keep focus on each opponent. Things will work its way out. No reason to get grey hairs worrying about something even our coaches and players can't control.

Who’s worrying or getting gray hairs? Some of us think it’s fun and exciting to discuss the prospects of App challenging and reaching new milestones of national prominence. For those who don’t enjoy it, there are threads purely devoted to this week’s game. No need to come on this one and be the fun police.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I think I get what you mean, App is in the top 33?

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Sitting at 32 in the AP and a potential win on Saturday, below are some of the opportunities that may allow us to move up:

Wake Forest is 26 and at Boston College.
#24 Kansas State is at Oklahoma State who is 27.

I don't see SMU losing to USF, Iowa State losing to Baylor, #25 Michigan State losing to Indiana, #23 Texas A&M losing to Arkansas, or #22 UCF losing to UConn, but if any of those happened we would certainly move up.

I think Army is on a bye.

#BeatCoastal

What does this mean? I don't get how we are "ranked" 32 in a top 25 poll. I really don't. To me, you are either ranked or you're not. We are not. This makes me wonder how close to pregnant my wife is, because being ranked is like being pregnant: you either are or you're not. I just don't get it.

No sir ...you're understanding of rankings is waaaaay off. Your not ranked or not ranked. South Alabama and Miami are not the same because they are not ranked. Nor are Clemson and Boise State the same because they are ranked. That ranking comes from number of received votes. We are 32nd in that voting. This thread quite accurately explains things we need to happen to be ranked. It's very normal to speculate when you will be ranked in the top 25.

So our first daughter and my wife's pregnancy was like being ranked in one poll but not both but when we had twins a few years after our first and that would be like being ranked in both the AP and Coaches Poll. I am trying to catch up on the pregnancy simile.

[ah59396]

Actually, the more we talk about being ranked, or receiving votes and being close to the Top 25, the better. We need as much good PR as you can get. Combine that with wins and accomplishing our goals, we set ourselves up for a good ranking and NY6 bid. If we go undefeated and don’t get talked about or don’t sniff the 25-35 “rank”, we have zero chance of being relevant.

I know what you are thinking but we all know if we are 7-0 we will be ranked. Even if just 24-25. If we go undefeated we will be ranked in the top 20 for sure and be a NY6 candidate but this talk is completely stupid right now because one loss destroys that.

All we need to worry about is #BeatCoastal #1-0 and keep focus on each opponent. Things will work its way out. No reason to get grey hairs worrying about something even our coaches and players can't control.

Who’s worrying or getting gray hairs? Some of us think it’s fun and exciting to discuss the prospects of App challenging and reaching new milestones of national prominence. For those who don’t enjoy it, there are threads purely devoted to this week’s game. No need to come on this one and be the fun police.

https://youtu.be/oydv8lFPeIY

[AppStFan1]

Actually, the more we talk about being ranked, or receiving votes and being close to the Top 25, the better. We need as much good PR as you can get. Combine that with wins and accomplishing our goals, we set ourselves up for a good ranking and NY6 bid. If we go undefeated and don’t get talked about or don’t sniff the 25-35 “rank”, we have zero chance of being relevant.

I know what you are thinking but we all know if we are 7-0 we will be ranked. Even if just 24-25. If we go undefeated we will be ranked in the top 20 for sure and be a NY6 candidate but this talk is completely stupid right now because one loss destroys that.

All we need to worry about is #BeatCoastal #1-0 and keep focus on each opponent. Things will work its way out. No reason to get grey hairs worrying about something even our coaches and players can't control.

Who’s worrying or getting gray hairs? Some of us think it’s fun and exciting to discuss the prospects of App challenging and reaching new milestones of national prominence. For those who don’t enjoy it, there are threads purely devoted to this week’s game. No need to come on this one and be the fun police.

There is just too much out of our control for us to be ranked to feel like it is fun to debate. We not only have to win all of our games but we have to win be a respectable margin or we fall, and we need UNC and South Carolina to play fairly well. Even if we are 12-0 if those two teams don't at least make a bowl game the best we can do is 24-27 range unless we have some help. If those teams win 6-8 games or go no worse than 5-7 we could perhaps slide into the 17-20 range maybe. There is just so much we don't control and we have yet to put up what should be a top 25 resume anyway.

Remember hearing Ivy League and NEC people complain when we were in FCS about not getting respect while the CAA and SoCon fans laughed at their champs ever reaching the top 15? We are now in the shoes of the Ivy League and NEC fans but in FBS now. We are in a conference where we can't lose games and must beat P5 teams to get that respect.

UCF has gotten enough respect so when they lost to an unranked team they did not fall all the way out. If we had lost to Pitt we would have no shot of staying ranked. UCF and Boise State can lose 1-2 games and still get that benefit of the doubt. We need to aspire over the next 3-4 years to get to that point where we begin to get that respect.

[AppStFan1]

Great video and love the end. 1-0. That's all that matters. We keep going 1-0 and at the end of the year I hope our team is able to celebrate an impressive ranking.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Arkansas beating Texas A&M in the 3rd

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Actually, the more we talk about being ranked, or receiving votes and being close to the Top 25, the better. We need as much good PR as you can get. Combine that with wins and accomplishing our goals, we set ourselves up for a good ranking and NY6 bid. If we go undefeated and don’t get talked about or don’t sniff the 25-35 “rank”, we have zero chance of being relevant.

I know what you are thinking but we all know if we are 7-0 we will be ranked. Even if just 24-25. If we go undefeated we will be ranked in the top 20 for sure and be a NY6 candidate but this talk is completely stupid right now because one loss destroys that.

All we need to worry about is #BeatCoastal #1-0 and keep focus on each opponent. Things will work its way out. No reason to get grey hairs worrying about something even our coaches and players can't control.

Who’s worrying or getting gray hairs? Some of us think it’s fun and exciting to discuss the prospects of App challenging and reaching new milestones of national prominence. For those who don’t enjoy it, there are threads purely devoted to this week’s game. No need to come on this one and be the fun police.

There is just too much out of our control for us to be ranked to feel like it is fun to debate. We not only have to win all of our games but we have to win be a respectable margin or we fall, and we need UNC and South Carolina to play fairly well. Even if we are 12-0 if those two teams don't at least make a bowl game the best we can do is 24-27 range. If those teams win 6-8 games or go no worse than 5-7 we could perhaps slide into the 17-20 range maybe. There is just so much we don't control and we have yet to put up what should be a top 25 resume anyway.

Remember hearing Ivy League and NEC people complain when we were in FCS about not getting respect while the CAA and SoCon fans laughed at their champs ever reaching the top 15? We are now in the shoes of the Ivy League and NEC fans but in FBS now. We are in a conference where we can't lose games and must beat P5 teams to get that respect.

UCF has gotten enough respect so when they lost to an unranked team they did not fall all the way out. If we had lost to Pitt we would have no shot of staying ranked. UCF and Boise State can lose 1-2 games and still get that benefit of the doubt. We need to aspire over the next 3-4 years to get to that point where we begin to get that respect.

Can you post the cliff notes on this post? I’m sorry, I have A.D.D.

[EastHallApp]

We not only have to win all of our games but we have to win be a respectable margin or we fall, and we need UNC and South Carolina to play fairly well. Even if we are 12-0 if those two teams don't at least make a bowl game the best we can do is 24-27 range.

Dude we finished in the 24-27 range last year at 11-2 with zero P5 wins. Where do you come up with this stuff?

[yosef69]

Arkansas beating Texas A&M in the 3rd

A&M being ranked is a joke at all is a joke. SEC propaganda machine

[AppStFan1]

We not only have to win all of our games but we have to win be a respectable margin or we fall, and we need UNC and South Carolina to play fairly well. Even if we are 12-0 if those two teams don't at least make a bowl game the best we can do is 24-27 range.

Dude we finished in the 24-27 range last year at 11-2 with zero P5 wins. Where do you come up with this stuff?

Go back and look at the week we got ranked last year. We had a lot of help. Did you know we had less points in the AP poll that week than any team who was ranked all year long? That was because teams were losing left and right around us.

SMU passed us in just one week this year because they beat a ranked team.

My point is that we need help to get ranked. We don't move into the top 25 or 26-28 range unless we have a lot of help because we lack top 25 caliber opponents on our schedule.

We really need UNC to win today or at least win the ACC Coastal Division and South Carolina to be a bowl team for us to have people vote us in the top 20 regularly. Go look at all of our votes in the AP poll this week. Everyone voted us 23-25 range. To have a strong ranking you need to be ranked by everyone and have some vote you in the top 20. Over half the voters did not even vote for us.