An L is an L

[Music_man185]

Just so we're all on the same page re: Lamb -

63% completions
321 yards
4 TD
1 Int
9.2 ypa

All that with a patchwork OL, on a night where we rushed for a season-low total and averaged 3.6 yards per carry.

You forgot to mention the fumbles. Turnovers were a very big factor in the outcome of this game. It's hard for any team to win when they keep giving the ball to the other team.

[97grad]

Hard to argue injuries have taken a big toll on offense, but I have yet to see a decent excuse for the defense. Ark St played with less rest than we did by a couple of hours and they had to travel. And the time of possession in this game was not very lopsided (32m vs 28m) so saying the D never got off the field isn't really true either.

[EastHallApp]

Just so we're all on the same page re: Lamb -

63% completions
321 yards
4 TD
1 Int
9.2 ypa

All that with a patchwork OL, on a night where we rushed for a season-low total and averaged 3.6 yards per carry.

You forgot to mention the fumbles. Turnovers were a very big factor in the outcome of this game. It's hard for any team to win when they keep giving the ball to the other team.

No excuse for the botched handoff to Cox, though I assume they share the blame there.

On the scoop and score, sure I'd like to see him secure the ball better and be more aware of the rush. But our left tackle also completely whiffed on his block. When you let a pass rusher get a free run at the QB's blind side, bad things happen.

[SpeedkingATL]

ArkSt played a much tougher early schedule and 3 games without their starting QB. They are a better team than their record indicated and they played a flawless game last night; 1 penalty for 5 yards, no turnovers, good kicking game etc. They were just the better team last night on a night when OL depth and turnovers caught up with App. App still can go 10-2 in their 2nd season in FBS so this transition still looks pretty good from where I sit. They have 2 extra days to get ready for Idaho and then a bye week to heal and rest. I predict a strong finish and who knows, ArkSt could still slip up and we could share the Belt since they don't determine a Champion with a tiebreaker.

[hapapp]

Hard to argue injuries have taken a big toll on offense, but I have yet to see a decent excuse for the defense. Ark St played with less rest than we did by a couple of hours and they had to travel. And the time of possession in this game was not very lopsided (32m vs 28m) so saying the D never got off the field isn't really true either.

Look at the time of possession in the 4th Quarter.

[JTApps1]

Hard to argue injuries have taken a big toll on offense, but I have yet to see a decent excuse for the defense. Ark St played with less rest than we did by a couple of hours and they had to travel. And the time of possession in this game was not very lopsided (32m vs 28m) so saying the D never got off the field isn't really true either.

Ark. State was playing their 4th game in a row while we were playing our 7th. Add to that last week we played a very fast paced Troy team and went into 3OT. Throw in a short week after that game and it makes it even more difficult.

All of that plus, as I mentioned a few weeks ago, we have started taking a lot of hits to our DL. We are down to 3 scholarship guys and a converted walk-on LB playing DE. Every game is won and lost in the trenches, and right now we are very beat up on both sides.

[appst89]

ArkSt played a much tougher early schedule and 3 games without their starting QB. They are a better team than their record indicated and they played a flawless game last night; 1 penalty for 5 yards, no turnovers, good kicking game etc. They were just the better team last night on a night when OL depth and turnovers caught up with App. App still can go 10-2 in their 2nd season in FBS so this transition still looks pretty good from where I sit. They have 2 extra days to get ready for Idaho and then a bye week to heal and rest. I predict a strong finish and who knows, ArkSt could still slip up and we could share the Belt since they don't determine a Champion with a tiebreaker.

It would not have affected the outcome of the game one bit, but I have to say that may have been the worst officiating crew to ever set foot inside KBS.

[Music_man185]

I don't know if it has been mentioned or not, but I felt that there were also a lot of bad/missed calls from the refs. There were many holds I saw by Ark. State that were never called. A false start. And I'm still not sure about the punt that App batted out of the end zone in the air and downed on the 1, yet the refs called it a touch back and gave it to Ark. State on the 25

The whole "false start, delay of game on the DEFENSE" says a lot about the refs in my opinion.

[YesAppCan]

JT, anybody that would yell: "That's what you get for firing Jerry Moore."
is a FN idiot!

[AppinVA]

JT, anybody that would yell: "That's what you get for firing Jerry Moore."
is a FN idiot!

We get a 7-2 record. In negotiations with The U for a home game.

I'll take what we got.

[JTApps1]

JT, anybody that would yell: "That's what you get for firing Jerry Moore."
is a FN idiot!

No doubt about it. We all turned around and started asking who said it but of course nobody claimed it. Most idiotic thing I've heard all season.

[Rick0714]

Hard to argue injuries have taken a big toll on offense, but I have yet to see a decent excuse for the defense. Ark St played with less rest than we did by a couple of hours and they had to travel. And the time of possession in this game was not very lopsided (32m vs 28m) so saying the D never got off the field isn't really true either.

I think the point here is that we had a hude time of possession advantage in the first half. In the second half the defense could not get off the field and the offense could not not stay on it. That's when we got gassed.

[JMappfan5]

Knighten played an almost flawless 2nd half. Ark St was much more physical and more athletic than we thought. Their front 7 on Def was quick and very physical hitters. Their offense was much more diverse than Ga Southern. This game reminded me of the So Alabama game last year. We still are a couple of recruiting classes away from being where we need to be size/athletically. I am optimistic for a strong finish and I am excited for the future!!!

[Apptiger]

I thought Lamb did very well overall. He has trouble throwing under pressure but I cant' think of many QB's that can throw well with no time. He decision making is improving but I would like to see more improvement reading zone coverage and more quick dump off options in the plays. I had almost forgotten he was a sophomore, glad we will have him two more years! Those criticizing him need to go look at the tape. He was picking the snaps up off the ground a lot in the second half and having to start the plays a beat late.

Three games in 14 days is too much. We don't have the depth in place to handle that well. Injuries are part of the game but mix in fatigue and bad things happen. Our line depth and play needs to improve but if you look closely it is easy to see the guys we have are giving their all and playing with a lot of heart and grit. In a lot of cases at and above their potential. We just need more of them. Bigger, stronger and faster would help too.

[Snaggy]

It would be great to have the cameras facing the home side instead of the visitor side. I don't remember seeing total attendance numbers, but do remember seeing a LOT of aluminum while watching on TV. I'm sure there is some rational reason for having the cameras where they are, but it does not do us any favors.

I know our two ESPNU games were on a Thursday night, and I understand it can be harder to fill all the seats on a week night. But it is not a good look in my opinion. The occasional pans of the home side are brief at best. I just think we could be marketing ourselves better in these games when we have a national spotlight.

[T-Dog]

I feel that some App fans get a perverse pleasure out of watching the team lose because they start saying "I told you so!" and "I knew that would catch up to us" and so on.

[AppDawg]

Hard to argue injuries have taken a big toll on offense, but I have yet to see a decent excuse for the defense. Ark St played with less rest than we did by a couple of hours and they had to travel. And the time of possession in this game was not very lopsided (32m vs 28m) so saying the D never got off the field isn't really true either.

Look at the time of possession in the 4th Quarter.

We had a 6 minute edge in time of possession at half time. They flipped it by a full 10 minutes in the second half!

[AppDawg]

Just so we're all on the same page re: Lamb -

63% completions
321 yards
4 TD
1 Int
9.2 ypa

All that with a patchwork OL, on a night where we rushed for a season-low total and averaged 3.6 yards per carry.

This is a case where the box score does not tell the whole story. Yes, those #'s look good and to someone who didn't watch the game, it looks like a close hard fought game. The problem is roughly 80% of his stats Were accomplished in the 1st half (and 1 td drive with 3 min to go). We had 305 total yards at halftime and finished with just 465.

I don't know that I have ever seen a game more "bi-polar" than this one. Perhaps the dreaded JMU game in Harrisonburg years ago. The turning point was Chapman going down.

ArkSt 1st half total yards - 125
ArkSt 2nd half total yards - 392

App 1st half total yards - 305
App 2nd half total yards - 160

[ASUfan6971]

We had 21 pts first half. Practically none after. No offense, screw the stats. We need an 8 yard pass play to keep the drives going.

[appbio91]

We had 21 pts first half. Practically none after. No offense, screw the stats. We need an 8 yard pass play to keep the drives going.

stAte had the same game plan as everyone else we have played this year- stop the run, put pressure on Lamb and make him beat you with his arm. None of the others were good enough to execute that plan. If we palyed stAte a few weeks ago with everyone healthy it might have been a shootout because the 30 yarders were there even at the end. But frankly that was the extent of what we had going consistently on offense. We broke a few runs here and there but not enough to keep drives going. Looked to me like Knighten got a lot more aggressive after the half. That kid runs hard. I am not sure being gassed had as much to do with the defensive problems as we would like to think. I think they were just getting whipped by a bigger deeper more physical group. We still were able to stop them in the red zone in the 4th. A gassed group would have been shoved to the back of the endzone. The play book closes up a little in the red zone and maybe our weaknesses were less exploitable.


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