Satterfield to Cincinnati?

[appgrad95&97]

[/quote] The main issue is lack of local larger regional corporations to fund us. The corporate partners that are actually located in Boone are awesome but very small businesses. The Mast General Store and the local wireless company may allocate a good amount of their advertising budget to the university but it is still a small budget. Then we have business in Charlotte and WS to try to engage, but their primary engagement will be with hometown institutions.

This article about Western Michigan is interesting as it states that it is donors that pay bulk of Fleck's new salary:

http://www.westernherald.com/sports/art ... 26a72.html

“The majority of coaches' contracts are not from university funding. It’s coming from donors,” said Beauregard. “We have to find donors to help pay for the rest of the contract. You have to have a good group of donors and WMU has that.”
Western Michigan University head football coach P.J. Fleck is the highest paid coach in the Mid-American Conference, with WMU donors accounting for 70 percent of Fleck’s $800,000 contract. The administration said that his contract could increase if Fleck continues to win and gain interest from other football programs. The university pays each athletic coach at WMU a base salary, but the athletic department must rely on donors for the remaining funds of the contract, which, in Fleck’s case, is $575,000."[/quote]

That is a very good reason to not be so dismissive of GA St. and UNCC.

[bigdaddyg]

The main issue is lack of local larger regional corporations to fund us. The corporate partners that are actually located in Boone are awesome but very small businesses. The Mast General Store and the local wireless company may allocate a good amount of their advertising budget to the university but it is still a small budget. Then we have business in Charlotte and WS to try to engage, but their primary engagement will be with hometown institutions.

This article about Western Michigan is interesting as it states that it is donors that pay bulk of Fleck's new salary:

http://www.westernherald.com/sports/art ... 26a72.html

“The majority of coaches' contracts are not from university funding. It’s coming from donors,” said Beauregard. “We have to find donors to help pay for the rest of the contract. You have to have a good group of donors and WMU has that.”
Western Michigan University head football coach P.J. Fleck is the highest paid coach in the Mid-American Conference, with WMU donors accounting for 70 percent of Fleck’s $800,000 contract. The administration said that his contract could increase if Fleck continues to win and gain interest from other football programs. The university pays each athletic coach at WMU a base salary, but the athletic department must rely on donors for the remaining funds of the contract, which, in Fleck’s case, is $575,000."[/quote]

That is a very good reason to not be so dismissive of GA St. and UNCC.[/quote]

Unfortunately you are correct. Very high ceilings for both of those programs. Can't see any major corporations popping up in the high country.

[Yosef10]

I feel like the Cincinnati job is Luke Fickell's if he wants it.

This is what it's kind of sounding like to me, too. Hope he'll take it if offered, sounds like things are heating up there.

Dan Wolken disagrees. Says Fickell is in the mix but it's not his for the taking.

I saw where someone said Satt shouldn't leave unless for a P5 job but as much as I hate to say it the UC job would be a GREAT stepping stone job for Satt or any other CUSA/MAC/SBC coach.

[diehardapp18]

It does still sound like according to their fans Fickell is the most likely option right now. It sounds like he really wants it, too. If I was a Cincinnati fan I'd rather have Satt or Brown. In Fickell's one year as tOSU head coach they went 6-7 and lost to Michigan which has been like the only time in the past 10 years.

[eggers76]

I agree JT. I really think the additional revenue they have generated over a longer period of time gives them an advantage from a budgeting perspective. I also include basketball for Cincy since they do very well there and where we obviously lag far behind, especially with overall winning and fan support.
I think we can eventually become more competitive with coaches salaries but it will take time, continued success, and more alumni/fan support.

[appgrad95&97]

I feel like the Cincinnati job is Luke Fickell's if he wants it.

This is what it's kind of sounding like to me, too. Hope he'll take it if offered, sounds like things are heating up there.

Dan Wolken disagrees. Says Fickell is in the mix but it's not his for the taking.

I saw where someone said Satt shouldn't leave unless for a P5 job but as much as I hate to say it the UC job would be a GREAT stepping stone job for Satt or any other CUSA/MAC/SBC coach.

Full disclosure: I thought about writing this, wrote it, and then thought about actually positing it.

Cincinnati is more than a stepping stone job for Satterfield. Where do you see him stepping up to? He has done a fine job in Boone. I am glad he is our coach and hope he sticks around, but over the past four years, what has he really shown? What are his big wins? Now I'm not knocking the job he has done at all, but he's no Chris Peterson (or at least he has nothing approaching the record Peterson had when he left Boise for Washington). I wouldn't blame him one bit for taking the money and the shot at Cincy, but the idea that his record to date, indicates that job would be a stepping stone for him, I just don't get. Sorry guys.

[diehardapp18]

I feel like the Cincinnati job is Luke Fickell's if he wants it.

This is what it's kind of sounding like to me, too. Hope he'll take it if offered, sounds like things are heating up there.

Dan Wolken disagrees. Says Fickell is in the mix but it's not his for the taking.

I saw where someone said Satt shouldn't leave unless for a P5 job but as much as I hate to say it the UC job would be a GREAT stepping stone job for Satt or any other CUSA/MAC/SBC coach.

Full disclosure: I thought about writing this, wrote it, and then thought about actually positing it.

Cincinnati is more than a stepping stone job for Satterfield. Where do you see him stepping up to? He has done a fine job in Boone. I am glad he is our coach and hope he sticks around, but over the past four years, what has he really shown? What are his big wins? Now I'm not knocking the job he has done at all, but he's no Chris Peterson (or at least he has nothing approaching the record Peterson had when he left Boise for Washington). I wouldn't blame him one bit for taking the money and the shot at Cincy, but the idea that his record to date, indicates that job would be a stepping stone for him, I just don't get. Sorry guys.

What is PJ Fleck's big win at WMU? What were Taggart's big wins at WKU? What were Brian Kelly's big wins at CMU before he left for Cincy? Satterfield has a fantastic record and a rep as being a great recruiter. That's exactly what programs like Cincinnati are looking for.

[Yosef10]

I feel like the Cincinnati job is Luke Fickell's if he wants it.

This is what it's kind of sounding like to me, too. Hope he'll take it if offered, sounds like things are heating up there.

Dan Wolken disagrees. Says Fickell is in the mix but it's not his for the taking.

I saw where someone said Satt shouldn't leave unless for a P5 job but as much as I hate to say it the UC job would be a GREAT stepping stone job for Satt or any other CUSA/MAC/SBC coach.

Full disclosure: I thought about writing this, wrote it, and then thought about actually positing it.

Cincinnati is more than a stepping stone job for Satterfield. Where do you see him stepping up to? He has done a fine job in Boone. I am glad he is our coach and hope he sticks around, but over the past four years, what has he really shown? What are his big wins? Now I'm not knocking the job he has done at all, but he's no Chris Peterson (or at least he has nothing approaching the record Peterson had when he left Boise for Washington). I wouldn't blame him one bit for taking the money and the shot at Cincy, but the idea that his record to date, indicates that job would be a stepping stone for him, I just don't get. Sorry guys.

He's 43 years old and his record as a HC is 31-18, and 19-5 the last 2 years. All while have to completely rebuild the roster. Now SS has struggled a few times in late game clock management and that shouldn't be ignored. But you're a little off base with this Chris Peterson comment. He didn't exactly inherit a bad program, quite the contrary actually. The foundation was laid previously by Dirk Koetter who went 26-10 and Dan Hawkins who went 53-11. So yes Peterson did well but he didn't build that program from the ground up and wasn't the only coach to have success there. Peterson also got hit by the NCAA with "lack of institutional control" while at Boise. The WAC wasn't exactly filled with world beaters either. So while yes SS has a couple coaching faults here and there, he's done an incredible job here so far and I think you'd be on a bit of an island to think SS head coaching potential stops at an AAC school. He's proven to be really damn good at building a program from the ground up.

[appgrad95&97]

Fleck: 22-21 @ Northwestern (this year) and 34-10 @ Illinois (this year), sure they aren't great but that's 2 Big Ten wins.

Taggart: 32-31 @ Kentucky (2012), sure that's Kentucky but it's and SEC win.

Kelly: at Central Michigan for a year, and well...

[EastHallApp]

I feel like the Cincinnati job is Luke Fickell's if he wants it.

This is what it's kind of sounding like to me, too. Hope he'll take it if offered, sounds like things are heating up there.

Dan Wolken disagrees. Says Fickell is in the mix but it's not his for the taking.

I saw where someone said Satt shouldn't leave unless for a P5 job but as much as I hate to say it the UC job would be a GREAT stepping stone job for Satt or any other CUSA/MAC/SBC coach.

Full disclosure: I thought about writing this, wrote it, and then thought about actually positing it.

Cincinnati is more than a stepping stone job for Satterfield. Where do you see him stepping up to? He has done a fine job in Boone. I am glad he is our coach and hope he sticks around, but over the past four years, what has he really shown? What are his big wins? Now I'm not knocking the job he has done at all, but he's no Chris Peterson (or at least he has nothing approaching the record Peterson had when he left Boise for Washington). I wouldn't blame him one bit for taking the money and the shot at Cincy, but the idea that his record to date, indicates that job would be a stepping stone for him, I just don't get. Sorry guys.

What Satt has shown is to lead one of the top two FBS transitions ever. Better than Boise, better than South Florida, better than Central Florida, WAY better than Western Kentucky, and of course, better than Georgia Southern. His record to date is spectacular.

Chris Petersen took over a program that had gone 45-7 the previous four years, with three national top 15 rankings. No comparison between the program he inherited and the one Satt did. Zero.

If Satt goes to Cincy, it will either be a stepping stone or he'll get fired. He won't spend 20 years there. That's not a knock on them, just the reality of being a G5.

[hapapp]

The one mark against him could be the fact that he has no P5 coaching experience. Quite frankly, he has little coaching experience outside of Boone. His brief stops at Toledo and FIU notwithstanding. I'm not saying that prevents him be an attractive candidate but he hasn't coached at the highest level. That may not matter at a place like Cincinnati but his experience is limited. This really doesn't seem like the type of job he would pursue.

[ASUGoose]

From the Winston Salem Journal Article about Moore winning SB Offensive Player of the year; "Head coach Scott Satterfield wasn’t in Boone on Wednesday, but his staff used a pre-practice slideshow to reveal the team’s all-conference recipients. The final slide informed Moore of his honor." I read that right after I read Sat might be considered for the Cincinnati job. Where was he, interviewing? Where else would he have been on a Wednesday????

No one could blame him for pursing that job; I think it would pay over $2 million per year and it's a much higher profile job.

He was likely traveling down to Montgomery as they had media day down there today. Satt is not going to Cincy b/c it makes absolutely no sense to go there from where he is currently. Now USF, maybe, but not Cincy.

[t4pizza]

I don't think any of us have any idea what makes sense to Scott. Different people are motivated by different things and rarely does anybody else, except those closest to them, know what the motivations are. From many outsiders point of view, Cincy would be a step up because the AAC is seen as a better G5 conference which sends more coaches to P5 schools and the money paid to the coach is significantly higher than what he is being paid now. There are some huge advantages that App has, and we all know what they are, but only Scott knows if those advantages outweigh the money and perception of Cincy. I hope he stays but won't fault him if he leaves and will always pull for his success. That being said, I think in a couple to a few more years he can make the jump to P5 from App. He is quickly becoming a top G5 winning coach and its not like App doesn't garner media attention. Who knows, knock of UGA between the hedges, win our home game against Wake and take care of the Sun Belt and we could be the New Years 6 invitee next year. If that happens, the P5 schools will come calling.

[Rick83]

I doubt that Satt would leave for just the money...you never know what motivates someone though. He's got 3 kids whom I imagine are inmeshed into Boone. I've always felt that he wants to get the program to a certain point before leaving...like a NY6 invitation...building a nationally recognized program like a Houston or Boise St...and then leave for the right situation (and money). Usually, the bigger the paycheck means higher expectations which translates to more stress, which translates to less family time and less quality of life. Rich people are some of the unhappiest around.

[boonetown1]

On bearcat banter they said 3 private jets landed in lunken in Cincinnati this morning. One from GSO, one from Chicago and one from Cleveland. I'd say GSO could be satt, but he was at the bowl stuff today right?

[appstate77]

I doubt that Satt would leave for just the money...you never know what motivates someone though. He's got 3 kids whom I imagine are inmeshed into Boone. I've always felt that he wants to get the program to a certain point before leaving...like a NY6 invitation...building a nationally recognized program like a Houston or Boise St...and then leave for the right situation (and money). Usually, the bigger the paycheck means higher expectations which translates to more stress, which translates to less family time and less quality of life. Rich people are some of the unhappiest around.

Agreed. Satt is one of us; black and gold to the core. He has a vision for us to excell and grow. He has kids who are high school age, and a wife who is also an App grad. I don't see Scott leaving for money. He doesn't strike me as being that shallow.
When the kids are gone and App is fighting for NY6 games on a yearly basis, I can see it, maybe. But not now.

[Goapps15]

I doubt that Satt would leave for just the money...you never know what motivates someone though. He's got 3 kids whom I imagine are inmeshed into Boone. I've always felt that he wants to get the program to a certain point before leaving...like a NY6 invitation...building a nationally recognized program like a Houston or Boise St...and then leave for the right situation (and money). Usually, the bigger the paycheck means higher expectations which translates to more stress, which translates to less family time and less quality of life. Rich people are some of the unhappiest around.

Agreed. Satt is one of us; black and gold to the core. He has a vision for us to excell and grow. He has kids who are high school age, and a wife who is also an App grad. I don't see Scott leaving for money. He doesn't strike me as being that shallow.
When the kids are gone and App is fighting for NY6 games on a yearly basis, I can see it, maybe. But not now.

I wouldn't see him taking a 1.5 million dollar increase as being shallow. Hell if I got a raise to quadruple my salary I'd take the money and run with it.

[AppDawg]

On bearcat banter they said 3 private jets landed in lunken in Cincinnati this morning. One from GSO, one from Chicago and one from Cleveland. I'd say GSO could be satt, but he was at the bowl stuff today right?

Could have been Gene Chizik from the hill...

[EastHallApp]

On bearcat banter they said 3 private jets landed in lunken in Cincinnati this morning. One from GSO, one from Chicago and one from Cleveland. I'd say GSO could be satt, but he was at the bowl stuff today right?

Agents?

[asu66]

On bearcat banter they said 3 private jets landed in lunken in Cincinnati this morning. One from GSO, one from Chicago and one from Cleveland. I'd say GSO could be satt, but he was at the bowl stuff today right?

Agents?

Good call. Agents and/or attorneys perhaps representing finalists.