Cox Breaks the Record

[huskie3]

Remind me again which numbers are retired

[SayYesToTheRock]

I am totally against assigning it to someone in the future in a "legends" scenario. That would be okay IF we didn't already have the honor of retiring numbers established.

A legends patch is more of an honor than a sign on the stadium, I think.

For example: Steve Fuller's name and number are present in every Deshaun Watson photo and highlight reel. The name, number and patch are a sign of honor and the history is preserved in a very present way.

Meanwhile, Larry Hand has a black rectangular sign on a wheelchair ramp with his number on it.

I'll take the patch.

[WVAPPeer]

Well they definitely need to display the retired numbers honorees in a much better way than that ---

[App91]

Personally I'm just for retiring the jersey with that player's name on it, never a number. Never has been about the number---It's the one that wears any Appalachian jersey.

Personally, I think the best solution is to make #14 into a "Legends" number that captains on offense may choose to wear, along with a patch honoring the person who "wore it best." Michigan and Clemson do this.

THIS!
This is the best idea we have had. Love it. Montana had one as well. I believe the all are better served if the number is used as a prestige item than retired. We could even have a "14" flag on the flag pole!

[WVAPPeer]

Personally I'm just for retiring the jersey with that player's name on it, never a number. Never has been about the number---It's the one that wears any Appalachian jersey.

Personally, I think the best solution is to make #14 into a "Legends" number that captains on offense may choose to wear, along with a patch honoring the person who "wore it best." Michigan and Clemson do this.

THIS!
This is the best idea we have had. Love it. Montana had one as well. I believe the all are better served if the number is used as a prestige item than retired. We could even have a "14" flag on the flag pole!

What about the retired numbers? You want to unretire them then?

[App91]

Personally I'm just for retiring the jersey with that player's name on it, never a number. Never has been about the number---It's the one that wears any Appalachian jersey.

Personally, I think the best solution is to make #14 into a "Legends" number that captains on offense may choose to wear, along with a patch honoring the person who "wore it best." Michigan and Clemson do this.

THIS!
This is the best idea we have had. Love it. Montana had one as well. I believe the all are better served if the number is used as a prestige item than retired. We could even have a "14" flag on the flag pole!

What about the retired numbers? You want to unretire them then?

Wouldnt even address that, just make 14 the legacy going forward. Since it wouldn't be retired really. Let the captains vote on who wears it. Could even switch from game to game as Michigan does with the Harmon jersey.

[WVAPPeer]

Sorry, I just don't like the legacy thing at all. It puts way too much pressure on a young man to "live up to the greatest". And if AE's 14 is not retired then I would think there will never be another number retired. The Tom Harmon thing is fine, probably few alive who ever saw him play...it's like honoring a previous era. If a previously retired number honoree agrees to have his number brought out of retirement then use the patch.

[WVAPPeer]

Sorry, I just don't like the legacy thing at all. It puts way too much pressure on a young man to "live up to the greatest". And if AE's 14 is not retired then I would think there will never be another number retired. The Tom Harmon thing is fine, probably few alive who ever saw him play...it's like honoring a previous era. If a previously retired number honoree agrees to have his number brought out of retirement then use the patch.

[bigdaddyg]

The combined stats those two guys will end up with has to be near the top all time for a number shared by two players-if that makes sense. Numbers guy!

[Saint3333]

These guys put more pressure of themselves than any jersey/number ever could. They are competitors and honoring a competitor by them wearing a number of two legends isn't going to hurt them.

[WVAPPeer]

These guys put more pressure of themselves than any jersey/number ever could. They are competitors and honoring a competitor by them wearing a number of two legends isn't going to hurt them.

and you are basing your opinion on what? - have you asked any players? - I certainly wouldn't make that kind of blanket statement as 18 year olds have enough pressure as is - to make the travel squad, to make the 2-deep rotation, to make the starting team, to make the plays, to not screw-up and get ridiculed on this board (doubt we have that much influence)
Many couldn't handle it - many times the heart and soul of a team is not the star player/s - maybe not even an all-conference performers - Remember the Pierre Banks, Matt Isenhauers, Matt Clines, Omar Byrum, Scott Suttle, Nic Cardwell, etc. - so theoretically, who is going to wear the "legacy number" - let's say it's #14 - offensive linemen can't wear that number so we have just eliminated members of a group who each year are the heart and soul - I'm just pointing out hurdles for doing that which lie on top of the added pressure of wearing the "legacy number" ---

[Saint3333]

I've asked as many players as you have. Both statements are "blanket".

We aren't going to agree on this nor will we change each others minds on the subject. Happy Thanksgiving.

[WVAPPeer]

DITTO ---

[WVAPPeer]

I have actually witnessed this 3 times and the results are mixed - a dad's number was retired but his son wanted to wear it - that one worked out OK I guess, the father was an All-American and the son was so-so - however he was doing it to honor his father --- as a player another player was asked to wear the number of our all-time great - he agreed and suffered thru the comparisons for 3 years - as a coach, we had a number retired and retiree said it was fine if a certain player wanted to wear his retired number - the certain said in no way he was going to do that ---

[appchicago]

Remind me again which numbers are retired

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

[bcoach]

Remind me again which numbers are retired

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

[WVAPPeer]

4 is an extremely small number of numbers retired - that leaves 190 numbers to be used by future players - don't think we will run out of numbers anytime soon ---

[Rick83]

Remind me again which numbers are retired

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

[Yosef84]

Personally, I like the idea of a "Legends" number where the privilege to wear the number had to be earned. Nobody is forced to wear it...they work to wear it. I don't see the pressure there because it's a carrot, not a stick. Regarding the already retired jerseys, I think the athletic administration should reach out to those who have been honored and ask their preference: Leave the number retired, or have it re-commissioned as a Legends Jersey. The tributes would remain since the "jersey" is still retired....but not the number.

[goapps93]

Can we not honor players without retiring the number?