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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am

AppStateTailgate wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:32 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:21 am
Back to the hires. We should start to see some movement soon. Interviews likely occur at the AFCA convention in Charlotte. Who wants to hang around the hotel in Charlotte and spy on Shawn? We are looking for a DC and one other spot. We have some flexibility with DiBastiani in that he can coach either LB spot or DL.

From a chess match perspective, we need to find someone that can cover holes in the recruiting areas of Atl and whatever else Dale was responsible for. Previous DC experience preferred but not required. And if they are going to cover Georgia, I guess political affiliation will need to be a factor to satisfy the Twitter Mob.
To be fair, Dale Jones was on an official recruiting trip, pictured in App State clothing, standing next to a Republican candidate so hated even freaking Georgia wouldn’t elect him, tweeting out to vote for him. The next DC can be a Republican in his private life he just can’t do THAT.
I agree with you. I just question If he had been pictured with anyone else, right, wrong, or indifferent, would it have illicit the same backlash.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:51 am

AppStateTailgate wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:32 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:21 am
Back to the hires. We should start to see some movement soon. Interviews likely occur at the AFCA convention in Charlotte. Who wants to hang around the hotel in Charlotte and spy on Shawn? We are looking for a DC and one other spot. We have some flexibility with DiBastiani in that he can coach either LB spot or DL.

From a chess match perspective, we need to find someone that can cover holes in the recruiting areas of Atl and whatever else Dale was responsible for. Previous DC experience preferred but not required. And if they are going to cover Georgia, I guess political affiliation will need to be a factor to satisfy the Twitter Mob.
To be fair, Dale Jones was on an official recruiting trip, pictured in App State clothing, standing next to a Republican candidate so hated even freaking Georgia wouldn’t elect him, tweeting out to vote for him. The next DC can be a Republican in his private life he just can’t do THAT.
Don't know if he was hated but certainly not supported by half the voters. Point is though, nobody should be endorsing anyone while representing the university. In fact I don't believe any employee, student, or athlete should be endorsing any person or product in university recognized clothing.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by Saint3333 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:14 am

Republicans buy shoes too was a famous saying from Jordan in the 90s.

Moral - leave politics out of your business.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:36 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am
AppStateTailgate wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:32 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:21 am
Back to the hires. We should start to see some movement soon. Interviews likely occur at the AFCA convention in Charlotte. Who wants to hang around the hotel in Charlotte and spy on Shawn? We are looking for a DC and one other spot. We have some flexibility with DiBastiani in that he can coach either LB spot or DL.

From a chess match perspective, we need to find someone that can cover holes in the recruiting areas of Atl and whatever else Dale was responsible for. Previous DC experience preferred but not required. And if they are going to cover Georgia, I guess political affiliation will need to be a factor to satisfy the Twitter Mob.
To be fair, Dale Jones was on an official recruiting trip, pictured in App State clothing, standing next to a Republican candidate so hated even freaking Georgia wouldn’t elect him, tweeting out to vote for him. The next DC can be a Republican in his private life he just can’t do THAT.
I agree with you. I just question If he had been pictured with anyone else, right, wrong, or indifferent, would it have illicit the same backlash.
If he had been pictured with Warnock and said he would vote for him…I’m SURE no one would have raised an eyebrow🙄

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:40 am

Rekdiver wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am
AppStateTailgate wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:32 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:21 am
Back to the hires. We should start to see some movement soon. Interviews likely occur at the AFCA convention in Charlotte. Who wants to hang around the hotel in Charlotte and spy on Shawn? We are looking for a DC and one other spot. We have some flexibility with DiBastiani in that he can coach either LB spot or DL.

From a chess match perspective, we need to find someone that can cover holes in the recruiting areas of Atl and whatever else Dale was responsible for. Previous DC experience preferred but not required. And if they are going to cover Georgia, I guess political affiliation will need to be a factor to satisfy the Twitter Mob.
To be fair, Dale Jones was on an official recruiting trip, pictured in App State clothing, standing next to a Republican candidate so hated even freaking Georgia wouldn’t elect him, tweeting out to vote for him. The next DC can be a Republican in his private life he just can’t do THAT.
I agree with you. I just question If he had been pictured with anyone else, right, wrong, or indifferent, would it have illicit the same backlash.
If he had been pictured with Warnock and said he would vote for him…I’m SURE no one would have raised an eyebrow🙄
That’s my point. It would have still been inappropriate, but no one would really care.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by Seattleapp » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:31 pm

AppStateTailgate wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:32 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:21 am
Back to the hires. We should start to see some movement soon. Interviews likely occur at the AFCA convention in Charlotte. Who wants to hang around the hotel in Charlotte and spy on Shawn? We are looking for a DC and one other spot. We have some flexibility with DiBastiani in that he can coach either LB spot or DL.

From a chess match perspective, we need to find someone that can cover holes in the recruiting areas of Atl and whatever else Dale was responsible for. Previous DC experience preferred but not required. And if they are going to cover Georgia, I guess political affiliation will need to be a factor to satisfy the Twitter Mob.
To be fair, Dale Jones was on an official recruiting trip, pictured in App State clothing, standing next to a Republican candidate so hated even freaking Georgia wouldn’t elect him, tweeting out to vote for him. The next DC can be a Republican in his private life he just can’t do THAT.
Riddle me this. Had he been standing next to Warnock are you making this post? Not taking a political position but when’s the last time there was any kind of outrage when it showed a coach standing next to a candidate wearing a blue tie. The double standard is pretty obvious

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:44 pm

Appstate88 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:29 am
We have three openings. OL, DL, LB coach positions. Either the DL or LB coach will be DC I assume.

For all three positions required:

1- Be younger than head coach (<45)
2- Very smart Football mind - technically competent - schemes well - mitigates team weaknesses and exploits opponents
3- Keen eye in evaluating talent and character
4- Played HS and/or College Football in the Southeast
5- Displays a lot of energy to coach, recruit and motivate those around him.
6- Good with Social Media, interacts well with younger generation and can quickly build trust with future players and HS Coaches.
7- Knows how to develop position players - has a process - detail oriented - execution focused
8- Wants to be here but does not want to retire here - Likes Mountains - Team Player - Family Man
9- Has relationships with JUCO programs
10- App State ties (former player or coach) desired but not required like 1-9.
#1 isn’t a deal breaker for me. #9 would be great but not a deal breaker if one isn’t. One that isn’t mentioned is that have to have an understanding of what we are trying to do. We aren’t changing from the current scheme so an understanding of it is key.

One that I wouldn’t mind, but I doubt he gets it is Cort Braswell. He’s young, bright, the kids respond to him and he understands the system.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by Appstate88 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:18 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:44 pm
Appstate88 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:29 am
We have three openings. OL, DL, LB coach positions. Either the DL or LB coach will be DC I assume.

For all three positions required:

1- Be younger than head coach (<45)
2- Very smart Football mind - technically competent - schemes well - mitigates team weaknesses and exploits opponents
3- Keen eye in evaluating talent and character
4- Played HS and/or College Football in the Southeast
5- Displays a lot of energy to coach, recruit and motivate those around him.
6- Good with Social Media, interacts well with younger generation and can quickly build trust with future players and HS Coaches.
7- Knows how to develop position players - has a process - detail oriented - execution focused
8- Wants to be here but does not want to retire here - Likes Mountains - Team Player - Family Man
9- Has relationships with JUCO programs
10- App State ties (former player or coach) desired but not required like 1-9.
#1 isn’t a deal breaker for me. #9 would be great but not a deal breaker if one isn’t. One that isn’t mentioned is that have to have an understanding of what we are trying to do. We aren’t changing from the current scheme so an understanding of it is key.

One that I wouldn’t mind, but I doubt he gets it is Cort Braswell. He’s young, bright, the kids respond to him and he understands the system.
Good recommendations 94. Updated. Do others have recommendations or do we have it covered.

For all three positions:
1- Younger than head coach (<45) preferred
2- Very smart Football mind - technically competent - schemes well - mitigates team weaknesses and exploits opponents
3- Understands our system/scheme, experience preferred
4- Keen eye in evaluating talent and character
5- Played HS and/or College Football in the Southeast
6- Displays a lot of energy to coach, recruit and motivate those around him.
7- Good with Social Media, interacts well with younger generation and can quickly build trust with future players and HS Coaches.
8- Knows how to develop position players - has a process - detail oriented - execution focused
9- Wants to be here but does not want to retire here - Likes Mountains - Team Player - Family Man
10- Has relationships with JUCO programs preferred
11- App State ties (former player or coach) preferred
GIVE 'EM HELL APPS!

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:52 pm

I don't understand 1 and 8

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by MrCraig » Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:40 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am
AppStateTailgate wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:32 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:21 am
Back to the hires. We should start to see some movement soon. Interviews likely occur at the AFCA convention in Charlotte. Who wants to hang around the hotel in Charlotte and spy on Shawn? We are looking for a DC and one other spot. We have some flexibility with DiBastiani in that he can coach either LB spot or DL.

From a chess match perspective, we need to find someone that can cover holes in the recruiting areas of Atl and whatever else Dale was responsible for. Previous DC experience preferred but not required. And if they are going to cover Georgia, I guess political affiliation will need to be a factor to satisfy the Twitter Mob.
To be fair, Dale Jones was on an official recruiting trip, pictured in App State clothing, standing next to a Republican candidate so hated even freaking Georgia wouldn’t elect him, tweeting out to vote for him. The next DC can be a Republican in his private life he just can’t do THAT.
I agree with you. I just question If he had been pictured with anyone else, right, wrong, or indifferent, would it have illicit the same backlash.
If he had been pictured with Warnock and said he would vote for him…I’m SURE no one would have raised an eyebrow🙄
That’s my point. It would have still been inappropriate, but no one would really care.
You don’t think right leaning App fans would’ve been up in arms if Dale Jones had publicly endorsed Raphael Warnock on Twitter? Because every right wing person I know would’ve probably thrown a fit.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by NewApp » Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm

Appstate88 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:29 am
We have three openings. OL, DL, LB coach positions. Either the DL or LB coach will be DC I assume.

For all three positions required:

1- Be younger than head coach (<45)
2- Very smart Football mind - technically competent - schemes well - mitigates team weaknesses and exploits opponents
3- Keen eye in evaluating talent and character
4- Played HS and/or College Football in the Southeast
5- Displays a lot of energy to coach, recruit and motivate those around him.
6- Good with Social Media, interacts well with younger generation and can quickly build trust with future players and HS Coaches.
7- Knows how to develop position players - has a process - detail oriented - execution focused
8- Wants to be here but does not want to retire here - Likes Mountains - Team Player - Family Man
9- Has relationships with JUCO programs
10- App State ties (former player or coach) desired but not required like 1-9.
Not a priority. There are relatively few Junior College programs except Community Colleges out west.
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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:23 pm

bcoach wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:52 pm
Numbers changes. Why younger than 45 and why not someone who wants to retire here?
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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:27 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:40 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am
AppStateTailgate wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:32 am


To be fair, Dale Jones was on an official recruiting trip, pictured in App State clothing, standing next to a Republican candidate so hated even freaking Georgia wouldn’t elect him, tweeting out to vote for him. The next DC can be a Republican in his private life he just can’t do THAT.
I agree with you. I just question If he had been pictured with anyone else, right, wrong, or indifferent, would it have illicit the same backlash.
If he had been pictured with Warnock and said he would vote for him…I’m SURE no one would have raised an eyebrow🙄
That’s my point. It would have still been inappropriate, but no one would really care.
You don’t think right leaning App fans would’ve been up in arms if Dale Jones had publicly endorsed Raphael Warnock on Twitter? Because every right wing person I know would’ve probably thrown a fit.
One side seems to handle different opinions better than others.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:28 pm

NewApp wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm
Appstate88 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:29 am
We have three openings. OL, DL, LB coach positions. Either the DL or LB coach will be DC I assume.

For all three positions required:

1- Be younger than head coach (<45)
2- Very smart Football mind - technically competent - schemes well - mitigates team weaknesses and exploits opponents
3- Keen eye in evaluating talent and character
4- Played HS and/or College Football in the Southeast
5- Displays a lot of energy to coach, recruit and motivate those around him.
6- Good with Social Media, interacts well with younger generation and can quickly build trust with future players and HS Coaches.
7- Knows how to develop position players - has a process - detail oriented - execution focused
8- Wants to be here but does not want to retire here - Likes Mountains - Team Player - Family Man
9- Has relationships with JUCO programs
10- App State ties (former player or coach) desired but not required like 1-9.
Not a priority. There are relatively few Junior College programs except Community Colleges out west.
Completely disagree. In the new world of the transfer portal and the rules around it, JuCo players are going to become more attractive.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AppStateNews » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:33 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:27 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:40 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am


I agree with you. I just question If he had been pictured with anyone else, right, wrong, or indifferent, would it have illicit the same backlash.
If he had been pictured with Warnock and said he would vote for him…I’m SURE no one would have raised an eyebrow🙄
That’s my point. It would have still been inappropriate, but no one would really care.
You don’t think right leaning App fans would’ve been up in arms if Dale Jones had publicly endorsed Raphael Warnock on Twitter? Because every right wing person I know would’ve probably thrown a fit.
One side seems to handle different opinions better than others.
Eh.. not really.
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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:06 pm

AppStateNews wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:33 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:27 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:40 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:36 am


If he had been pictured with Warnock and said he would vote for him…I’m SURE no one would have raised an eyebrow🙄
That’s my point. It would have still been inappropriate, but no one would really care.
You don’t think right leaning App fans would’ve been up in arms if Dale Jones had publicly endorsed Raphael Warnock on Twitter? Because every right wing person I know would’ve probably thrown a fit.
One side seems to handle different opinions better than others.
Eh.. not really.
I have to say you are wrong. One side wants to shut you up and put you out of business. I do like Chik-fil-a.

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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by AppStateNews » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:09 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:06 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:33 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:27 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:40 am


That’s my point. It would have still been inappropriate, but no one would really care.
You don’t think right leaning App fans would’ve been up in arms if Dale Jones had publicly endorsed Raphael Warnock on Twitter? Because every right wing person I know would’ve probably thrown a fit.
One side seems to handle different opinions better than others.
Eh.. not really.
I have to say you are wrong. One side wants to shut you up and put you out of business.
Deleted because this isn't a political thread...
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Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:39 pm

Here we go.
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Re: Dale Jones out - Footballscoop

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:32 pm

An old coach that has a lot of experience that just wants to coach and avoid the issues a head coach has to deal with - what’s wrong with that? Valuable experience cannot be overstated. Maybe even a former head coach that now just wants to coach a position. Very valuable asset.

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Unread post by spacemonkey » Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:29 pm

Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:32 pm
An old coach that has a lot of experience that just wants to coach and avoid the issues a head coach has to deal with - what’s wrong with that? Valuable experience cannot be overstated. Maybe even a former head coach that now just wants to coach a position. Very valuable asset.
I was thinking the same thing. I want some experience at DC. I know I am better at my job now than when I started. I think we should be looking at people that are on their way down but have proven they can do the job. There are so many p5 jobs that are impossible. If they were good in G5 took a dc job or head coach job at a dead end p5 job (DUKE). I would take Satterfield back in a heartbeat as OC or HC even if he went 1-11 next year. Some p5 jobs are impossible. I think Shawn Elliot has done an incredible job at Georgia St.(Speaking of impossible jobs). Imagine recruiting to an EMPTY Georgia State stadium vs a PACKED FULL crazy AppState stadium. Apples to Oranges.

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