Coach Drink Staff Thread

[PhillyApp1]

I love football talk !

[BeauFoster]

I kinda feel like next season will be a 2007 type season. The defense will be good, but take some lumps. The offense will be capable of simply outscoring most everyone. I always felt that in 2007 if the defense came through with 2-3 stops in the game, we win because no one could stop us that many times.

I feel for our (will be) sophomore all American punter. He may not see the field enough to repeat his accomplishments from 2018.

[The Rock]

There are only a few open starting slots , yes I know there will be competition at every postion , but based on the line up at years end.Corner is an issue but I think we have guys ready to cover it.Get it ?Would not be surprised to see some RFr push some of the older guys, in fact expect it.Z Hayes at LB for instance .Peoples at RB ,Evans to the slot? Virg and Sutton on the field at the same time.Speed kills.

Guess it depends on how spring/fall camps go and maybe what talent we can pick up in the next week or so, but I really hope Evans can move to slot. I think Drink can keep him highly involved and throw a lot of different looks to defenses, and with the other talent we have at Rb, be fine at that position.
Pass to him in the flats, short dump offs in space, jet sweeps and reversals, could be really fun to watch with Evans all over the field.

[GoBoone]

Hicks has decided to stay and should compete for corner.

[Stonewall]

We are going to need depth along both lines, I can guess the starters but depth could be a little dicey. My hope is that we have RFrs and a few late developing upperclassmen step in. I’m a fan of redshirting the entire freshman class if possible, not likely though. Maybe this is the year ?

[appstatealum]

Now we are just discussing the same topics..... Is spring practice here yet?

[AppSt94]

Things may have changed with the new coaching staff but Evans is not slotted to go back to receiver. He is too valuable to move to a position where his touches are limited.

[dtrain4prez]

Things may have changed with the new coaching staff but Evans is not slotted to go back to receiver. He is too valuable to move to a position where his touches are limited.

I'm not sure where Evans needs to go, but this coaching staff is crazy if they don't give Peoples 10+ carries a game somehow.

[AppSt94]

Evans needs to be a RB.

[The Rock]

Obviously Evans is a great RB, but Williams jr, Peoples, and Harrington are also great RBs that are more typical downhill runners.
I would like to see the others get the majority of the runs and when the defense is gassed and beaten up, put Evans In to burn them with his speed.
Of course he should be on the field most of the time in a slot position, or maybe a 2 back set to get him in space and use his speed too.
Great problem to have any way you look at it.

[appstatealum]

Evans needs to be a RB.

I've gone in depth about this very thing last month.... In Drink's offense, Evans would be more effective being an H Back/slot guy that can be moved around. Our base package could be a 3 WR set with Evans. He is certainly a weapon, but his value is speed and space, not necessarily being a RB.

[Yosef10]

Not really much reason to move a 1000 yard rusher to WR considering the talent we bring back there. Evans is pretty similar to Nyheim Hines in terms of what he can do, and he played RB for Drink.

[WASU 93]

Not really much reason to move a 1000 yard rusher to WR considering the talent we bring back there. Evans is pretty similar to Nyheim Hines in terms of what he can do, and he played RB for Drink.

While we are deep at RB, it is a position that tends to accumlulate injuries.

Perhaps a normal game would consist of 15 Carries for Evans, 15 Carries for Peoples, 5-10 for Williams and 25-30 Passes for ZT. 75 Plays a Game in a high powered offense wih tempo is reasonable.

Evans averaged 16 Carries for 113 yards down the stretch, so this is already his normal workload.

Just think of the challenges a defense could face with a two-back set of Evans and Peoples, one of our pass-catching TE's and Sutton and Hennigan (or a 3 WR set with Virgil or Williams).
Wth ZT's ability to tuck and run, that's a lot of options.

[Rekdiver]

Evans needs to be a RB.

I've gone in depth about this very thing last month.... In Drink's offense, Evans would be more effective being an H Back/slot guy that can be moved around. Our base package could be a 3 WR set with Evans. He is certainly a weapon, but his value is speed and space, not necessarily being a RB.

You don’t take a 1000 yard rusher and change his position.

[appstatealum]

Evans needs to be a RB.

I've gone in depth about this very thing last month.... In Drink's offense, Evans would be more effective being an H Back/slot guy that can be moved around. Our base package could be a 3 WR set with Evans. He is certainly a weapon, but his value is speed and space, not necessarily being a RB.

You don’t take a 1000 yard rusher and change his position.

You do if his skill set translates to more than a running back. The reason why he was a 1000 yard rusher is because we played a ball control offense with a zone block scheme. Evans thrived when gaps were created for him to explode through, hence his success as a return man. Believe it or not, Evans is not built to be an every down back. This is why he struggled to close out games when defenses knew we were grinding out the clock. Evans is not a “run though tackles” type of back. That is more of a Marcus Jr role. Peoples is an ideal mix of edge speed (Evans strength) and has the ability to run through tacklers (MWJr strength). It would be naive not to make Peoples the feature back, peppering in Harrington and using MWJr in his same role from 18, and moving Evans to an HBack/slot role where he can be lined up in the slot-

Scenario 1- nickel package, Evans can be motioned into the backfield and take the handoff versus a nickel set
Scenario 2- 4-3 or 3-4 set, Evans can stay in the slot and take jet sweep, tunnel screen, or slant and torch a LB in space.

Evans’ strength is space. He can be better utilized as a versatile HBack/slot than just coming out of the backfield. I understand some of you guys’ reservations on moving him out of the backfield as a designated RB, but that actually plays to his strengths and that is what Satt planned on doing prior to our injury bug last season anyway. No offense to Evans, he is not built to be a “grind it out” type back, and we honestly did him a disservice by featuring him to close out games last year versus running Marcus Williams Jr who fits that mold better. Add in Harrington and Peoples, now you have guys even better built for this. Evans’ strength is his speed and versatility.

[appstatealum]

Not really much reason to move a 1000 yard rusher to WR considering the talent we bring back there. Evans is pretty similar to Nyheim Hines in terms of what he can do, and he played RB for Drink.

You are right. There is also a reason why Hines was used more as a third down and change of pace back once Marlon Mack was fully healthy. The Colts capitalized on Hines’ strength which was burst and receiving the ball in space. Hines did the most damage when he was fulfilling the Jack Doyle role of an inside receiver that can be moved around. He got big gains in the run game as a back up to Marlon Mack due to his change of pace burst ability. When Marlon Mack was injured, Hines had low YPC and got his yards on volume and receiving, not on chunk run plays.

[AppSt94]

So here is the question. Are we a better every down offense with Evans at RB and Williams in the slot? Or with Evans In the slot and People’s at RB? No offense to People’s, but the second scenario is not a stronger lineup.

[The Rock]

So here is the question. Are we a better every down offense with Evans at RB and Williams in the slot? Or with Evans In the slot and People’s at RB? No offense to People’s, but the second scenario is not a stronger lineup.

I respectfully disagree with this assessment, although it is hypothetical at this point anyway.
Although it was a rather small sample size that we saw of Peoples this year, he has all the makings to be a stud in the backfield. As mentioned above, he has the size, speed and strength to be incredibly successful. We have seen what Evans can do with the ball in his hands in many roles (RB, KR, catches out of backfield) and know he can be dangerous any time he has the ball.
Not sure how this isn’t a better lineup than with Evans at RB.
Again, at this point it’s hypothetical and I trust Drink and co to put the right pieces in the right places

[AppSt94]

So here is the question. Are we a better every down offense with Evans at RB and Williams in the slot? Or with Evans In the slot and People’s at RB? No offense to People’s, but the second scenario is not a stronger lineup.

I respectfully disagree with this assessment, although it is hypothetical at this point anyway.
Although it was a rather small sample size that we saw of Peoples this year, he has all the makings to be a stud in the backfield. As mentioned above, he has the size, speed and strength to be incredibly successful. We have seen what Evans can do with the ball in his hands in many roles (RB, KR, catches out of backfield) and know he can be dangerous any time he has the ball.
Not sure how this isn’t a better lineup than with Evans at RB.
Again, at this point it’s hypothetical and I trust Drink and co to put the right pieces in the right places

No worries. My point is Evans has proven that he is a stud at RB. To insert Peoples into the lineup you have to sit a current starter. To move Evans to the slot means you sit Williams. Agree with you that The Visor will figure it out.

[Rick83]

As long as we stay healthy, Drink will have many highly effective weapons in his arsenal. We need to get as many touches as possible for Evans (from whatever position), Peoples (assuming he is the beast we've seen flashes of the few times he played this past year), Sutton and Hennigan...these guys are all major play makers...among others...injuries may cause some of the others to step up like in the past few years.