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4 Games in 18 Days !!!

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:27 pm

AppinATL wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:Begging out of Thursday games is a non-starter. If we didn't want weeknight games, we shouldn't have joined the Sun Belt (or moved up to FBS at all, for that matter).

Alternately, we could just start going 3-9 every year. That would keep the league from showcasing us in its primetime spots.
I don't think anyone is advocating begging off Thursday games. However as has need pointed out, 4 games in 18 days is too much. If the conference wants to showcase us or anybody else for that matter with more than one midweek game in a season, at least schedule them further apart or maybe throw an off week in there somewhere so these kids can recover and be safer. This schedule was a form of athlete abuse.
Well, again, it was actually four games in 20 days (Oct. 17-Nov.5), whereas a normal four-week stretch is four games in 22 days. And if we'd played Southern on Saturday instead of Thursday, we'd still have played the exact same number of games in the exact same 20-day time frame.

I do agree that the short weeks in general aren't great, and Thursday games would be better if they followed an off week. Or maybe we'll see a shift away from Thursday in favor of Tuesday games followed by a Saturday off.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by PhillyApp1 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:38 pm

How about 3 games in 15 days...lol
Still to much but who's counting.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:54 pm

PhillyApp1 wrote:How about 3 games in 15 days...lol
Still to much but who's counting.
Then we're going to need to ban playing on three straight Saturdays. Those are Greece-like working conditions. ;)

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by weavneerfan » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:13 pm

We will be analyzing this loss for days if not weeks but my simple observation is that they were bigger, faster, more athletic and the qb was awesome. Plus...terrible schedule, triple overtime game, GS hangover, injuries...I can't list anymore...perfect storm for a loss. Gotta be patient as we continue to play with the big boys!

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by clayton » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:26 pm

It's about getting 4 days rest between games instead of 6...and then having to do it again.

We lost a very good offensive lineman in both of the Thursday games.

This is a bigger issue in the NFL because they only have 3 days rest for Thursday games and 20-year-olds recover quicker than 30-year-olds. But, this still matters.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by T-Dog » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:31 pm

App is the only team in FBS this season who had two five-day turnarounds in a three week span.

We got beat but Gillin needs to make sure this doesn't happen again.

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Unread post by bojoWolf » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:43 pm

It was a tough game for y'all and I know the injuries are a killer (See our 2014 season).

Good luck the rest of the way.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by WXAPP » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:20 pm

Hate that ESPN really screwed the football pooch on this one with the NCAA. Years ago, schools and the NCAA should have said.. nope.. thanks.. we play football on Saturday... period... I think there are legit concerns about overall health, both physically and mentally, for our student athletes when this sort of scheduling shenanigans is in play. I don't like it and I'll tell you, most football coaches don't like it either.

Has a school ever said to the ESPNS' and NCAA.... No.. we won't be doing that... ? And forgive my ignorance, but schools don't have to be a part of the NCAA... do they? There's no law that requires it. What's to stop a bunch of schools breaking off and starting another association? Contracts can be broken and such. Seems to me with ESPN in trouble, and the Fox Sports Nets coming on line, the pendulum could finally swing the other way. Maybe there is some sort of restoration for Academics first.. Football on Saturday. The national exposure argument.. show me the data that directly brings a payoff for schools that put up with this Thursday night crap. In short, university leaders, not just App, prove it.

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Unread post by appfanz » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:03 am

I always wondered if we had a choice on these Thursday games. I remember years ago when ESPN wanted to change a Clemson game and they said no because it was homecoming. So I wonder what the policy is today??

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Unread post by WXAPP » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:11 am

Good question...
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Unread post by boonetown1 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:19 am

Still think all this "bigger, faster, stronger " stuff about ark state is crap. We beat them last year, we beat them the first half. Plain and simple, we lost because our guys looked gassed, unmotivated and underprepared the second half..... THATS IT.

Yes, we have injuries and the other factors could be due to the time between games, but I don't know. I mean we had more time for Troy and came out flat (no crap about GS taking it out emotionally, there was enough time). Now we see if the coaches are actually earning their paycheck and can rescheme and refocus for the rest of the year. IM LOOKING AT WOODY AND THE RUN PLAYCALLING. We have injuries, cannot run that same run plays every time, or give up 40.

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Unread post by appbio91 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:14 pm

boonetown1 wrote:Still think all this "bigger, faster, stronger " stuff about ark state is crap. We beat them last year, we beat them the first half. Plain and simple, we lost because our guys looked gassed, unmotivated and underprepared the second half..... THATS IT.

Yes, we have injuries and the other factors could be due to the time between games, but I don't know. I mean we had more time for Troy and came out flat (no crap about GS taking it out emotionally, there was enough time). Now we see if the coaches are actually earning their paycheck and can rescheme and refocus for the rest of the year. IM LOOKING AT WOODY AND THE RUN PLAYCALLING. We have injuries, cannot run that same run plays every time, or give up 40.
Agree if coaches can pull 2 out 3 they earn their pay.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by hotrod2001 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:56 pm

Hopefully the Vandals are still a dumpster fire by the time we go to Moscow and then the week off following should be good to rest before finishing out the season.

Could be worse, Texas State had like their two bye weekends within three weeks of each other at the beginning of the season.

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Unread post by NewApp » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:19 pm

clayton wrote:It's about getting 4 days rest between games instead of 6...and then having to do it again.

We lost a very good offensive lineman in both of the Thursday games.

This is a bigger issue in the NFL because they only have 3 days rest for Thursday games and 20-year-olds recover quicker than 30-year-olds. But, this still matters.
One difference is, is that NFL players don't have to go to class, study, and take tests.
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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by hapapp » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:17 pm

hotrod2001 wrote:Hopefully the Vandals are still a dumpster fire by the time we go to Moscow and then the week off following should be good to rest before finishing out the season.

Could be worse, Texas State had like their two bye weekends within three weeks of each other at the beginning of the season.
They are 2-3 in the conference and currently lead USA 24-0 in the first half.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by fjblair » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:48 pm

EastHallApp wrote:Begging out of Thursday games is a non-starter. If we didn't want weeknight games, we shouldn't have joined the Sun Belt (or moved up to FBS at all, for that matter).

Alternately, we could just start going 3-9 every year. That would keep the league from showcasing us in its primetime spots.
Nobody is begging out of Thursday games. Who the hell else is playing two in two weeks? It is a big deal.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by App91 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:29 pm

moehler wrote:I don't want to take anything away from Ark St, I still think one of the main reasons we lost last night was our coaches failure to make adjustments in the second half, that's happened In the last 2 ball games. But there was no doubt our players looked exhausted in the second half, they looked slow, alot of arm tackling, and on offense, Lamb was being caught from behind the entire game, something that didn't happen in the first half of the season, the backs also seem slow, and were not able to break tackles for extra yds. We are really thin on the Ol, even when healthy, we didn't have much room for error, if we are going to take the next step, the freshman and redshirt freshman, have got to be ready to play next year, and somehow, we have to find a capable replacement for Blair, and depth on the DL. I agree, this schedule sucked, I don't know how much say our administration had in the scheduling, remember ESPN dictates alot of when we play, but, no one can disagree that this was one of the worst schedules we have ever had. I guess its the price of being on tv and playing FBS football.
This, 1000k times. I am not sure what happened in the locker room at half time. But a completely different team came out. They made great adjustments, and we either did not, could not, not sure. we certainly did not counter anything. Looked lost, out of place, arguing with each other and the ref's over calls. We lost our composure and for that we have to look at the staff. Will be interesting to see where we go from here, not really sure to be honest.

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Re: 4 Games in 18 Days !!!

Unread post by NewApp » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:54 pm

When did we have to replace the center?
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