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[T-Dog]

AAC payout right now is roughly $7M per school per year through 2031. The Sun Belt payout is below $7M (guessed at around $2M right now, but maybe even higher because several TV deals happened in short order).

I doubt App had a serious invite from the AAC. Interest? Likely. But the AAC was talking to a lot of schools.

[Saint3333]

Correction - the legacy AAC members get $7M, the new members get a half share.

[AppStateNews]

Correction - the legacy AAC members get $7M, the new members get a half share.

Plus a likely re-negotiation before 2031 (rumors it's already been done).

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

There’s very few conferences that should feel as good as the SBC does in its current trajectory. Better chances of playing in the NY6 bowl, and better and better TV representation are the cherries on top. The difference between now and when LATech/MTSU/etc, left is staggering.

If you ever wonder how that happened, well there’s and App for that.

[EastHallApp]

To the point of the OP, I really don't think App getting mentioned in a throwaway line at the end of an article written by a Duke fan site has any significance at all.

[WVAPPeer]

I am the OP and the only reason I posted it was to just reiterate that people out there still see us as a winning football program even though some of our fans don't - And - this was a Duke fan site - does anyone think this comment would ever show up on a tarhole fan site?

[APPdiesel]

Correction - the legacy AAC members get $7M, the new members get a half share.

Plus a likely re-negotiation before 2031 (rumors it's already been done).

Renegotiation, likely.
Significant drop off in payout as many SB and App fans predict, plausible but speculation.

We just can’t know at this point.

[ericsaid]

I just don't get why FSU or Clemson would want to leave the winnable ACC and jump into the meat grinder that is the SEC. What good is all that money if you are going 7-5, 8-4, 6-6 almost every year and you are maybe going to be a playoff team every 10 years or so.

Because 8-4 in the SEC will get you in the playoff. 7-5 might get you in the playoff depending on the year. There needs to be an objective ranking system because the subjective nature of the CFP is going to be an issue. I understand despising the BCS Formula but there has to be some combination of computer power and human interpretation.

[Howard Street Hooligan]

I understand the offer was made. The Belt responded by making App the "center" of the conference and by adding MU and SM making the Belt, stronger than the AAC.

Exactly this. Until ESPN upped the payouts and added 4 schools, we were trying to figure out how to make the dollars work to move up to AAC.

ESPN had to up the ante to make it the right option for us (and others). They cornered the market with smaller markets but actually have a fan base in the Sun Belt and cornered the market share nonsense with the AAC.

Chancellor Everts played a big role in getting ESPN and Sun Belt to go the direction we did. Many don't like her, but Everts is as good as they come with politicing and getting the right people to agree.

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

[appdaze]

Interesting take on ESPN and the Sunbelt.

https://www.breezejmu.org/sports/analys ... 58d68.html

[AppStateNews]

I understand the offer was made. The Belt responded by making App the "center" of the conference and by adding MU and SM making the Belt, stronger than the AAC.

Exactly this. Until ESPN upped the payouts and added 4 schools, we were trying to figure out how to make the dollars work to move up to AAC.

ESPN had to up the ante to make it the right option for us (and others). They cornered the market with smaller markets but actually have a fan base in the Sun Belt and cornered the market share nonsense with the AAC.

Chancellor Everts played a big role in getting ESPN and Sun Belt to go the direction we did. Many don't like her, but Everts is as good as they come with politicing and getting the right people to agree.

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

Rumor is 2 mil with it going to 2.5. So, only 500k less than new AAC members. But, we don't have anywhere close to the travel costs in all sports so we actually end up better.

These are all rumors though. I don't have any direct knowledge of the media rights and compensation.

[VNova]

I understand the offer was made. The Belt responded by making App the "center" of the conference and by adding MU and SM making the Belt, stronger than the AAC.

Exactly this. Until ESPN upped the payouts and added 4 schools, we were trying to figure out how to make the dollars work to move up to AAC.

ESPN had to up the ante to make it the right option for us (and others). They cornered the market with smaller markets but actually have a fan base in the Sun Belt and cornered the market share nonsense with the AAC.

Chancellor Everts played a big role in getting ESPN and Sun Belt to go the direction we did. Many don't like her, but Everts is as good as they come with politicing and getting the right people to agree.

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

Rumor is 2 mil with it going to 2.5. So, only 500k less than new AAC members. But, we don't have anywhere close to the travel costs in all sports so we actually end up better.

These are all rumors though. I don't have any direct knowledge of the media rights and compensation.

https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/851a0fb7

ECU spent $6.5 mil on game expenses and travel (AAC is $6.9 mil median). App is at $4.5 mil in 2022 (SBC is at $4 mil median).

In total, ECU and App athletics were on the line of breaking even in the 2021-2022 season. Neither of us were better off than the other that year. I think that's going to be roughly the same this year.

However, the new CUSA members are going to go from $5.1 mil of game expenses/travel to that $6.9 mil number. At least to start, they'll be making the same or even less than SBC members.

It'll be interesting to see the numbers for 2023-2024...but that'll be a couple years from now.

Edit: Fun note, SBC media rights median was $1 mil more than CUSA in 2021-2022.

[spacemonkey]

The new AAC teams (ie Charlotte) are not getting the same payout as the legacy AAC teams (ie ECU).

Their number is much smaller.

[bcoach]

and money continues to ruin the game

[Howard Street Hooligan]

I understand the offer was made. The Belt responded by making App the "center" of the conference and by adding MU and SM making the Belt, stronger than the AAC.

Exactly this. Until ESPN upped the payouts and added 4 schools, we were trying to figure out how to make the dollars work to move up to AAC.

ESPN had to up the ante to make it the right option for us (and others). They cornered the market with smaller markets but actually have a fan base in the Sun Belt and cornered the market share nonsense with the AAC.

Chancellor Everts played a big role in getting ESPN and Sun Belt to go the direction we did. Many don't like her, but Everts is as good as they come with politicing and getting the right people to agree.

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

Rumor is 2 mil with it going to 2.5. So, only 500k less than new AAC members. But, we don't have anywhere close to the travel costs in all sports so we actually end up better.

These are all rumors though. I don't have any direct knowledge of the media rights and compensation.

If that is indeed the case then we're better off where we are. For some reason I thought those members were each getting $7 million annually but if that's the case then I don't get why some of them would stay put. I'd love to see ECU, Memphis, Tulane, SMU and even USF in the Sun Belt. Maybe even UAB as well to make it an even 20. Makes too much sense so it won't happen.

After reading what you said again, you said NEW MEMBERS.. Gotcha. Yeah, it does appear the older members are getting much more than that so no those other schools prob would never jump but that would be a fun league regardless.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... ealignment

[AppStateNews]

I understand the offer was made. The Belt responded by making App the "center" of the conference and by adding MU and SM making the Belt, stronger than the AAC.

Exactly this. Until ESPN upped the payouts and added 4 schools, we were trying to figure out how to make the dollars work to move up to AAC.

ESPN had to up the ante to make it the right option for us (and others). They cornered the market with smaller markets but actually have a fan base in the Sun Belt and cornered the market share nonsense with the AAC.

Chancellor Everts played a big role in getting ESPN and Sun Belt to go the direction we did. Many don't like her, but Everts is as good as they come with politicing and getting the right people to agree.

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

Rumor is 2 mil with it going to 2.5. So, only 500k less than new AAC members. But, we don't have anywhere close to the travel costs in all sports so we actually end up better.

These are all rumors though. I don't have any direct knowledge of the media rights and compensation.

If that is indeed the case then we're better off where we are. For some reason I thought those members were each getting $7 million annually but if that's the case then I don't get why some of them would stay put. I'd love to see ECU, Memphis, Tulane, SMU and even USF in the Sun Belt. Maybe even UAB as well to make it an even 20. Makes too much sense so it won't happen.

The old AAC members are still getting a minimum of $7 mil a year (I believe the old teams are still under the old agreement of not splitting at least bowl income). The new teams are getting half the pay out and splitting the bowl/NCAA payouts like SBC does.

[Rick83]

I understand the offer was made. The Belt responded by making App the "center" of the conference and by adding MU and SM making the Belt, stronger than the AAC.

Exactly this. Until ESPN upped the payouts and added 4 schools, we were trying to figure out how to make the dollars work to move up to AAC.

ESPN had to up the ante to make it the right option for us (and others). They cornered the market with smaller markets but actually have a fan base in the Sun Belt and cornered the market share nonsense with the AAC.

Chancellor Everts played a big role in getting ESPN and Sun Belt to go the direction we did. Many don't like her, but Everts is as good as they come with politicing and getting the right people to agree.

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

Rumor is 2 mil with it going to 2.5. So, only 500k less than new AAC members. But, we don't have anywhere close to the travel costs in all sports so we actually end up better.

These are all rumors though. I don't have any direct knowledge of the media rights and compensation.

If that is indeed the case then we're better off where we are. For some reason I thought those members were each getting $7 million annually but if that's the case then I don't get why some of them would stay put. I'd love to see ECU, Memphis, Tulane, SMU and even USF in the Sun Belt. Maybe even UAB as well to make it an even 20. Makes too much sense so it won't happen.

After reading what you said again, you said NEW MEMBERS.. Gotcha. Yeah, it does appear the older members are getting much more than that so no those other schools prob would never jump but that would be a fun league regardless.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... ealignment

The exit fees to leave the AAC are staggering. I believe it's like $10 million with a long notice period. The three recent schools that left paid more than that to forego the notice. So, unless those schools are moving up to a power conference it's tough to leave from a financial standpoint.

[VNova]

Exactly this. Until ESPN upped the payouts and added 4 schools, we were trying to figure out how to make the dollars work to move up to AAC.

ESPN had to up the ante to make it the right option for us (and others). They cornered the market with smaller markets but actually have a fan base in the Sun Belt and cornered the market share nonsense with the AAC.

Chancellor Everts played a big role in getting ESPN and Sun Belt to go the direction we did. Many don't like her, but Everts is as good as they come with politicing and getting the right people to agree.

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

Rumor is 2 mil with it going to 2.5. So, only 500k less than new AAC members. But, we don't have anywhere close to the travel costs in all sports so we actually end up better.

These are all rumors though. I don't have any direct knowledge of the media rights and compensation.

If that is indeed the case then we're better off where we are. For some reason I thought those members were each getting $7 million annually but if that's the case then I don't get why some of them would stay put. I'd love to see ECU, Memphis, Tulane, SMU and even USF in the Sun Belt. Maybe even UAB as well to make it an even 20. Makes too much sense so it won't happen.

The old AAC members are still getting a minimum of $7 mil a year (I believe the old teams are still under the old agreement of not splitting at least bowl income). The new teams are getting half the pay out and splitting the bowl/NCAA payouts like SBC does.

Isn't it also increasing over the remaining period of the deal to start matching with the old members?

[AppStateNews]

What’s App making now per year from ESPN?

Rumor is 2 mil with it going to 2.5. So, only 500k less than new AAC members. But, we don't have anywhere close to the travel costs in all sports so we actually end up better.

These are all rumors though. I don't have any direct knowledge of the media rights and compensation.

If that is indeed the case then we're better off where we are. For some reason I thought those members were each getting $7 million annually but if that's the case then I don't get why some of them would stay put. I'd love to see ECU, Memphis, Tulane, SMU and even USF in the Sun Belt. Maybe even UAB as well to make it an even 20. Makes too much sense so it won't happen.

The old AAC members are still getting a minimum of $7 mil a year (I believe the old teams are still under the old agreement of not splitting at least bowl income). The new teams are getting half the pay out and splitting the bowl/NCAA payouts like SBC does.

Isn't it also increasing over the remaining period of the deal to start matching with the old members?

I have not heard that, but is very possible.

[WVAPPeer]

Another article on Duke Basketball Report ---
--- of course we all know this is not going to happen, but I ask you, do you think this would actually even be brought up over at unc?

https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/20 ... anford-cal