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Re: Positives

Unread post by appstate77 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:35 pm

AppAttack wrote:I agree on all those. JJ could have a HUGE year (especially when we get Price into the mix). I was proud of the D. Do we have a special teams coach and put our best athletes (starters) out there?

I saw some Armanti like moves from JJ today...If we can stay healthy this could be a special team.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by 97grad » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:43 pm

Agree with pretty much all that has been said. Like what I saw on both sides of the ball. It did seem like the jet was not quite at the speed it should be. Was a little surprised we didn't throw more also, though we did run the ball pretty well. Mostly, despite all the positives we only scored 1 TD. We got some bad calls for sure, but regardless we really, really need to get penalties under control. I don't mean to sound negative, there were a lot of positives today. Just annoyed that we had such a great start and then a poor finish :/

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Re: Positives

Unread post by YesAppCan » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:48 pm

I wonder how much the heat played a role in the smaller use of the "jet" pkg. We didn't have anything in Boone during camp, weather-wise, to prepare us for that today.

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Unread post by 97grad » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:53 pm

YesAppCan wrote:I wonder how much the heat played a role in the smaller use of the "jet" pkg. We didn't have anything in Boone during camp, weather-wise, to prepare us for that today.
Very true. Heat today was absolutely brutal. Upside is that it'll seem that much cooler when I'm in Boone in 2 weeks ;)

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Re: Positives

Unread post by AppRy » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:11 pm

yosefederation wrote:Watched game but missed post game radio broadcast. Any reports on injuries we incurred and or severity of them?
Middleon tweaked his ankle. Sounds like he will miss a few weeks.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:09 pm

I saw some very good signs. We have a very talented foundation for a great team. Remember (I have to remind myself) that this is a very young team. We put up a lot of yards and did well defensively overall. We made some very costly mistakes that showed in the score.

We should expect that this team will show significant improvement from start to finish of season. That makes me feel like we will have a very good team at end of year. In the meantime, not many SoCon teams will be able to deal with both our OL and DL.

Next week will be a great test as I expect much improvement to a great foundation between game 1 and game 2.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by firemoose » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:51 pm

WVAPPeer wrote: I believe Coach Moore said it was a broken hand - nothing much in the postgame other than they would know more early in the week about all the banged up guys ---
I was a little far away from the radio and I heard Chisholm-broke-and ?. Nearly killed myself trying to get back in time to hear what he was saying. Either way it hope they are wrong since SS was talking about putting the red shirt on Holloway but unless Fergerson steps in I doubt that can happen now. Guess we'll hear this week.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by YesAppCan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:26 am

Redshirt question. Could Holloway have played yesterday and still be red-shirted? How about next week since he didn't play yesterday?

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Unread post by BeauFoster » Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:41 am

YesAppCan wrote:Redshirt question. Could Holloway have played yesterday and still be red-shirted? How about next week since he didn't play yesterday?
I think he could have still had a medical redshirt applied, but not a standard redshirt. One down takes away that possibility, but a certain percent still allows for a medical redshirt.
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Re: Positives

Unread post by JohnnyBurrito » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:06 am

I don't see Fergerson being able to truly be Rod's replacement b/c of his size. I think he will be good, but he's more of the Miller type RB, which we already have...
Holloway is a bigger back which we need especially on short yardage situations. Did I miss it or did Frazier play any?

Any word on Jackson? He was limping most of the 4th qtr, I assumed it was from cramps.

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Unread post by YesAppCan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:58 am

Good question on Frazier. I don't know why he wasn't in after Chisolm got hurt. My biggest concern for Jackson was I read he had his throwing arm bruised and the two hard rib shots he took yesterday. I think the legs stuff was all cramps.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by appgrunt71 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:31 am

A game is won or lost on the field. My assessment summariezed with these factors: Turnovers, penalties, mistakes, heat, homefield advantage, and, yes, game officials. My assessement of gameday experience: Besides the numbers, which I admit are important, AppState holds a big advantage in the gameday experience in our overall environment.

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Unread post by appst890 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:52 am

The great takeaway from games like this is that it reveals weaknesses. The positive comes when we address and make the adjustments. Trademark of winners is making constant improvements.

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Unread post by JTApps1 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:06 am

I'm most excited about the play of our lines on both sides of the ball. Not only was that our biggest question mark coming into the season, but it was also the strength of ECU's team. The other major positive was offensive play calling. It sure was nice see something resembling a well thought out game plan being used. We were neck and neck with an FBS team for 3 qtr despite the TO's and terrible refs. The KO return was just too much of a momentum changer to overcome. I was excited before yesterday, and I'm even more excited for the rest of the year.

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Unread post by AppAlum1 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:19 am

appgrunt71 wrote:A game is won or lost on the field. My assessment summariezed with these factors: Turnovers, penalties, mistakes, heat, homefield advantage, and, yes, game officials. My assessement of gameday experience: Besides the numbers, which I admit are important, AppState holds a big advantage in the gameday experience in our overall environment.
Well said. However, the game officials deserve a special mention here. I cannot recall an App game that was decided more by the officiating than this one. There was so much to complain about, I don't know where to begin. First, that fumble return for a TD was not a fumble. Jackson was down. Second, App got called for a number of penalties that were not penalties, and then there was the ECU holding that was not called on that kick return for a TD. The officiating was so bad that for the first time in about twelve years, I left my seat before the clock wound down. I just could not stand it.

But, that was what it was. Anyone who goes into an FBS school's stadium and expects fair officials is from another planet. Fine. The deeper problem I saw was App's response to the crappy-a$$ed officiating. Plain & simple -- we just wilted. After about the third turnover & the 11th penalty, there was no snap to our step out there. That concern could fit under your "homefield advantage" category.

I really don't think the heat was a problem for our guys. We were ready for that & seemed to be hydrated. I was concerned about Middleton, but he just broke a bone. At least that was not from the heat (irony).

I thought App's real problem the entire game was youth. That's the problem with youth; they're too young (that's humor). OK, they are freshmen no longer. We got taught a lesson in Greenville.

Montana is going to see just 'zactly what we learned. I hope we hang 100 points on the Griz.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:38 am

If that's the case, it's a sad situation when a team has to resort to cheating in order to win against a team from a lower division. Guess we'll see just how good ECU is next week against SC.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by DaphneUrquhart » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:26 am

There was much more good to take away from yesterday than I've seen in a while. Good mix of plays on offense even though some quickness efforts were thwarted by the officials. Obviously, the turnovers killed us. I didn't see anyone giving up and was amazed at how little cramping I saw. The heat was beyond beastly in the stands ... Imagine what that must have felt like on the field in full pads.

All in all, I was a happy ... though toasted... camper at the end of the day. See you all next Saturday at the Rock!
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Re: Positives

Unread post by Cincy App » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:40 am

I saw many positives from yesterday’s game. Our passing game was clicking. JJ looked great before cramping, our receivers were very impressive, and our OL gave JJ reasonable time to throw. Our running game struggled but looked much better than last year and ECU’s front 7 is the best we will see all year. Overall, our OL showed promise. I am concerned about RB with Chisholm out. We need a RB who can run effectively inside and will still hold onto the ball.

Defensively, our 4 senior starters and Blair are absolute beasts. I thought Harris and Burns/ Bronson held their own. If our D-Line is effective, our linebackers are going to be game-changers.

Fix the turnovers, fix special teams (traditionally, I’m not as optimistic about this concern), and gain game experience for our younger players and ASU should be a very good team this year.

Can't wait until Saturday's home opener vs. the Griz!

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Re: Positives

Unread post by eggers76 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:20 pm

I agree pretty much with JT's summary. We definitely have room for much improvement, especially special teams and penalties. I was really excited about the defense's overall play. I thought we had some really good lateral pusuit stopping runs and passes to the outside. There were a couple pass plays we left open and we should improve there. I would have liked to have seen some more pressure on the QB but overall I saw some good takeaways from this game. I hope those injured can recover quickly and that the team will continue to improve.

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Re: Positives

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:43 pm

I doubt there was any way, other than putting 21 on them early and having them quit, the Confusa refs were going to let us get out of Greenville with a W. I'm sure that was a directive from the conference office. That said, I will be more upset if we go the entire conference schedule without our defense benefitting from one holding penalty again. The former is to be expected. The latter is ridiculous.
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