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Unread post by Longrifle28 » Tue May 07, 2013 9:26 am

Future SunBelt school U of South Alabama which transitioned quickly from FCS has Navy and Mississippi State scheduled at home in 2014 and NC State scheduled at home in 2015.

It can be done.
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Unread post by moehler » Tue May 07, 2013 11:05 am

took ECU, 15 years of begging, and North Carolina legislative body, forcing, Carolina and State to go to ECU. Is it possible, we will get a BCS school in Boone, sure, I guess anything is possible, hell, I could win the lottery tomarrow, but Im willing to bet you will not see a BCS school, other than ECU in Boone in the next 5-10 years, they have no reason, there is nothing in it for them, we want to play them, they could careless about playing us. Just the harsh reality of it.

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Unread post by kiddbrewer » Tue May 07, 2013 11:09 am

Saint3333 wrote:
AppGrad78 wrote:KiddBrewer:

I'm guessing Saint is subtly bracing us for more bad scheduling news. First it was Campbell. Now, if Saint's unappetizing scenarios are any indication, it appears our plan for a non-conference FBS game at home in 2014 is a washout.
App would be the FIRST transitional team to schedule a home FBS OOC game in year 1. ODU doesn't have one until their first full year in 2015 and they had a year head start, GA St. didn't do it, and even if you go back to WKU, Troy and MTSU they didn't either. This is just reality. IF we can get a home FBS game in 2014 Charlie will have worked some magic. Our latest press release likely set the bar too high based upon historical scheduling for transitional schools.
That I didn't know. Hopefully, as JT said, we get 2 away games that are close enough for our traveling fans.

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Tue May 07, 2013 11:29 am

moehler wrote:took ECU, 15 years of begging, and North Carolina legislative body, forcing, Carolina and State to go to ECU. Is it possible, we will get a BCS school in Boone, sure, I guess anything is possible, hell, I could win the lottery tomarrow, but Im willing to bet you will not see a BCS school, other than ECU in Boone in the next 5-10 years, they have no reason, there is nothing in it for them, we want to play them, they could careless about playing us. Just the harsh reality of it.
That's the way I see it; just glad to see someone else agrees.
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue May 07, 2013 11:44 am

I understand that is how you feel, but I can provide examples to say otherwise.

Troy joined 1A in 2002.

They hosted Missouri in 2004, Oklahoma St. in 2007, Miss. St. in 2012, Duke in 2014.

Their current stadium capacity is 30,000.

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Unread post by appst89 » Tue May 07, 2013 11:56 am

JCline0429 wrote:
moehler wrote:took ECU, 15 years of begging, and North Carolina legislative body, forcing, Carolina and State to go to ECU. Is it possible, we will get a BCS school in Boone, sure, I guess anything is possible, hell, I could win the lottery tomarrow, but Im willing to bet you will not see a BCS school, other than ECU in Boone in the next 5-10 years, they have no reason, there is nothing in it for them, we want to play them, they could careless about playing us. Just the harsh reality of it.
That's the way I see it; just glad to see someone else agrees.
ECU is not a BCS school. They are in the AAC, which is part of the same Go5 that the SunBelt is in.

And I don't understand why anyone believes that we will not be able to do something that every other SunBelt school has done in the last few years; and that is to host a school from a BCS conference. Can someone explain to me why we can't do it when every other school in the SunBelt can?

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Unread post by TheMoody1 » Tue May 07, 2013 11:59 am

appst89 wrote:And I don't understand why anyone believes that we will not be able to do something that every other SunBelt school has done in the last few years; and that is to host a school from a BCS conference. Can someone explain to me why we can't do it when every other school in the SunBelt can?
I think these folks still have "SmallCon Complex".

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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Tue May 07, 2013 12:05 pm

moehler wrote:I think, eventually, we will be able to get midmajor teams such as ECU, Marshall, or Charlotte to make the trip to Boone, but I dont ever see any of the ACC teams making the trip of their own free will (it took an act of the state legaslative body to force both UNC and State to go to Greenville and play ECU). I look at Boise State, and for all their success, I believe they have had only one or two BCS schools, make the trip to Boise, if they want to play the big boys, they have to travel. What worries me is Boise is a top ten team almosst every year, and yet, the BCS conferences do not give them any respect, and force them to travel, Boise needs them, they dont need Boise, and they use that against them. Im not saying we will have the sucess that Boise has, but, by the grace of god it happens, we can still expect to travel to BCS schools, and not many will come to Boone.
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Unread post by moehler » Tue May 07, 2013 12:15 pm

I never said we would not host a BCS school, I just dont think its going be anytime soon. Im just being realistic, based on past attitudes of Carolina, State, they will not come to Boone willingly, and at this time, I just dont see any incentives for other BCS schools to come up the mountain. Now, eventually we might get some attention if, 1. we increase the size of the stadium, probably atleast, 40,000, so they would have a financial incentive, and 2. we start winning enough on the national level, especially bowl games, so that the BCS schools can justify the trip to Boone to their fans. Hope Im wrong, but I would be very happy in next 5-7 years seeing Marshall, ECU, maybe a MAC/USA team or two, and yes, even UNCC come up the moutain.

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Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue May 07, 2013 1:54 pm

appst89 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
moehler wrote:took ECU, 15 years of begging, and North Carolina legislative body, forcing, Carolina and State to go to ECU. Is it possible, we will get a BCS school in Boone, sure, I guess anything is possible, hell, I could win the lottery tomarrow, but Im willing to bet you will not see a BCS school, other than ECU in Boone in the next 5-10 years, they have no reason, there is nothing in it for them, we want to play them, they could careless about playing us. Just the harsh reality of it.
That's the way I see it; just glad to see someone else agrees.
ECU is not a BCS school. They are in the AAC, which is part of the same Go5 that the SunBelt is in.

And I don't understand why anyone believes that we will not be able to do something that every other SunBelt school has done in the last few years; and that is to host a school from a BCS conference. Can someone explain to me why we can't do it when every other school in the SunBelt can?
We're just little ole ASTC tucked away in the mountains, and we can never do what all those big fancy schools in the rest of the Sun Belt have done.

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Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue May 07, 2013 2:00 pm

moehler wrote:I never said we would not host a BCS school, I just dont think its going be anytime soon. Im just being realistic, based on past attitudes of Carolina, State, they will not come to Boone willingly, and at this time, I just dont see any incentives for other BCS schools to come up the mountain. Now, eventually we might get some attention if, 1. we increase the size of the stadium, probably atleast, 40,000, so they would have a financial incentive, and 2. we start winning enough on the national level, especially bowl games, so that the BCS schools can justify the trip to Boone to their fans. Hope Im wrong, but I would be very happy in next 5-7 years seeing Marshall, ECU, maybe a MAC/USA team or two, and yes, even UNCC come up the moutain.
Why are you only focusing on UNC-CH and NC State? There are plenty of other options out there that we can make a deal with. The incentive for those teams is they get a 2 for 1 which is fine by me. Most schools in the Sun Belt, CUSA, and MAC have less than 40,000 seats yet they get top level schools to travel. You've got to look at App as an FBS school not a FCS school.

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Unread post by 97APP » Tue May 07, 2013 2:52 pm

moehler wrote:I never said we would not host a BCS school, I just dont think its going be anytime soon. Im just being realistic, based on past attitudes of Carolina, State, they will not come to Boone willingly, and at this time, I just dont see any incentives for other BCS schools to come up the mountain. Now, eventually we might get some attention if, 1. we increase the size of the stadium, probably atleast, 40,000, so they would have a financial incentive, and 2. we start winning enough on the national level, especially bowl games, so that the BCS schools can justify the trip to Boone to their fans. Hope Im wrong, but I would be very happy in next 5-7 years seeing Marshall, ECU, maybe a MAC/USA team or two, and yes, even UNCC come up the moutain.
I would say it's more "realistic" that we will have a BCS opponent in the near future (sometime in the next 4-8 years). Now if you're meaning BCS teams in NC - then I agree. But, as far as BCS teams in general I suspect we'll see a home opponent in the next few years.

By looking at the teams that will be in the SBC when we join (most of whom are FCS move-ups), the following big name/BCS schools have played at SBC home stadiums since 2000 (includes the 2013 opponents): Boise St, Army (2), Ole Miss, Louisville, Minnesota (2), Kansas St, Okahoma St (2), Baylor, Missouri, Mississippi St, Navy, Oregon St, California, BYU, Boston College and Texas Tech.

Other than Georgia State and South Alabama (neither of whom has had a home game vs a BCS school), every SBC stadium seats less than 34,000.
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