Conference USA?

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:56 pm

Speaking of CUSA (and its former member), ECU was the last NC FBS team to win a conference championship in 2009.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:00 pm

NoLongerLurking wrote:Speaking of CUSA (and its former member), ECU was the last NC FBS team to win a conference championship in 2009.
And App almost pulled that ECU Win off in 2009!

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by AppDawg » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:47 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Anyone still upset we got "snubbed" by that crappy conference? We stomped ODU and they go 9-3 and apparently are headed to the Bahamas for their bowl game.
I almost hate to say this because it kind of cheapens our win over them, but the fact that ODU went 9-3 shows how awful that league is. They played three decent teams (us, NCSU and WKU - none anywhere near the top 25) and got blown out by all three. Best team they beat was... Southern Miss?

Then again I suppose that's no worse than stAte winning a share of the Sun Belt title.
And that's not saying much when that behemoth team from charlotte beat the golden eagles, and I am not talking about the Big I in its heyday....

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by SayYesToTheRock » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:28 pm

I would one day enjoy very much being in a conference with Marshall, WKU and MTSU. That being said, we have a good thing going in the Belt with Southern and Troy, and Coastal Carolina forthcoming.

The only C-USA bowl tie-in that I envy is that Big Ten matchup in the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Obtaining a Sun Belt vs P5 Bowl game should be the conference's next goal. App/Troy winning against P5s will help.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:34 am

Strictly from a financial standpoint I'm sure that if we were in C USA we would be in better shape and the extra cash would most certainly help with many needs. We all envision eventually being in a more geographically friendly conference with better Bowl ties but right now all things being equal I believe the Belt is much better. Bottom line is that we throttled the top USA team and in essence took our foot off the pedal the entire second half.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:22 am

There is no "extra cash" any longer after CUSA's latest TV deal. In fact since they'll split their revenues (TV and FBS playoff money) 14 ways versus 10 in 2018 for the SBC each program will likely make less while incurring more travel costs.

They are still a better basketball conference, but SBC is certainly better in baseball and trending better in football the last three years overtaking them this year.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by Rick83 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:23 am

sixtoes9134 wrote:
NoLongerLurking wrote:Speaking of CUSA (and its former member), ECU was the last NC FBS team to win a conference championship in 2009.
And App almost pulled that ECU Win off in 2009!
Yes, and that was with Armanti side-lined with that stupid lawn mower injury. Remember that Travaris Cadet filled in at QB and played a great game, but I think it would've gone our way if Armanti had played. So, we almost beat them on their field with our backup QB.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by Boone Goon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:43 am

Rick83 wrote:
sixtoes9134 wrote:
NoLongerLurking wrote:Speaking of CUSA (and its former member), ECU was the last NC FBS team to win a conference championship in 2009.
And App almost pulled that ECU Win off in 2009!
Yes, and that was with Armanti side-lined with that stupid lawn mower injury. Remember that Travaris Cadet filled in at QB and played a great game, but I think it would've gone our way if Armanti had played. So, we almost beat them on their field with our backup QB.
That was an exciting 4th Quarter! I think Deandre started the game at QB and Travaris replaced him in the 2nd half. I agree, if AE had played that's likely a different outcome.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:40 am

Boone Goon wrote:
Rick83 wrote:
sixtoes9134 wrote:
NoLongerLurking wrote:Speaking of CUSA (and its former member), ECU was the last NC FBS team to win a conference championship in 2009.
And App almost pulled that ECU Win off in 2009!
Yes, and that was with Armanti side-lined with that stupid lawn mower injury. Remember that Travaris Cadet filled in at QB and played a great game, but I think it would've gone our way if Armanti had played. So, we almost beat them on their field with our backup QB.
That was an exciting 4th Quarter! I think Deandre started the game at QB and Travaris replaced him in the 2nd half. I agree, if AE had played that's likely a different outcome.
I sat dead in the middle of ECU folks around the 50 yard line maybe 15 rows up- behind our bench. We were getting waxed in the first half and I was hearing it from my bro-in-law who supplied the tickets. What I recall most was the number of ECU guys who kept going down with cramps. I kept watching our sideline and saw nothing close to wilting and as we chipped away it was obvious which team was better conditioned. No doubt that the Pirates dodged a bullet with AE not available

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:43 am

Saint3333 wrote:There is no "extra cash" any longer after CUSA's latest TV deal. In fact since they'll split their revenues (TV and FBS playoff money) 14 ways versus 10 in 2018 for the SBC each program will likely make less while incurring more travel costs.

They are still a better basketball conference, but SBC is certainly better in baseball and trending better in football the last three years overtaking them this year.
Guess my "extra cash" part was the travel savings we would have pocketed. There are probably a bunch of bus trips available in conference USA versus the Belt. I know we would not be rich by any means. It's got to be very costly to send non-revenue teams way out west for games

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:24 am

bigdaddyg wrote:Strictly from a financial standpoint I'm sure that if we were in C USA we would be in better shape and the extra cash would most certainly help with many needs. We all envision eventually being in a more geographically friendly conference with better Bowl ties but right now all things being equal I believe the Belt is much better. Bottom line is that we throttled the top USA team and in essence took our foot off the pedal the entire second half.
Much as I like your point, ODU is not the top CUSA team. Maybe you meant a top team? They did go 7-1 but WKU beat them by 35 and they didn't play La. Tech or MTSU.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:01 am

EastHallApp wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Strictly from a financial standpoint I'm sure that if we were in C USA we would be in better shape and the extra cash would most certainly help with many needs. We all envision eventually being in a more geographically friendly conference with better Bowl ties but right now all things being equal I believe the Belt is much better. Bottom line is that we throttled the top USA team and in essence took our foot off the pedal the entire second half.
Much as I like your point, ODU is not the top CUSA team. Maybe you meant a top team? They did go 7-1 but WKU beat them by 35 and they didn't play La. Tech or MTSU.
No way did I mean that ODU is a top team in terms of being good. I meant that they are 7-1 in conference top of their division. That being said the conference really sucks. And to be 7-1 at the top of the division and having gotten stomped by the team they are tied with really makes it bad.

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bigdaddyg wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Strictly from a financial standpoint I'm sure that if we were in C USA we would be in better shape and the extra cash would most certainly help with many needs. We all envision eventually being in a more geographically friendly conference with better Bowl ties but right now all things being equal I believe the Belt is much better. Bottom line is that we throttled the top USA team and in essence took our foot off the pedal the entire second half.
Much as I like your point, ODU is not the top CUSA team. Maybe you meant a top team? They did go 7-1 but WKU beat them by 35 and they didn't play La. Tech or MTSU.
No way did I mean that ODU is a top team in terms of being good. I meant that they are 7-1 in conference top of their division. That being said the conference really sucks. And to be 7-1 at the top of the division and having gotten stomped by the team they are tied with really makes it bad.
But the team that they are tied with and stomped them does get to go to the Championship game ===
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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:57 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Strictly from a financial standpoint I'm sure that if we were in C USA we would be in better shape and the extra cash would most certainly help with many needs. We all envision eventually being in a more geographically friendly conference with better Bowl ties but right now all things being equal I believe the Belt is much better. Bottom line is that we throttled the top USA team and in essence took our foot off the pedal the entire second half.
Much as I like your point, ODU is not the top CUSA team. Maybe you meant a top team? They did go 7-1 but WKU beat them by 35 and they didn't play La. Tech or MTSU.
No way did I mean that ODU is a top team in terms of being good. I meant that they are 7-1 in conference top of their division. That being said the conference really sucks. And to be 7-1 at the top of the division and having gotten stomped by the team they are tied with really makes it bad.
But the team that they are tied with and stomped them does get to go to the Championship game ===
I read that ODU is going to the Bahamas Bowl? And that's another reason why the conference stinks. In my opinion all conference championship games should include the best two teams regardless of division.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:22 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Strictly from a financial standpoint I'm sure that if we were in C USA we would be in better shape and the extra cash would most certainly help with many needs. We all envision eventually being in a more geographically friendly conference with better Bowl ties but right now all things being equal I believe the Belt is much better. Bottom line is that we throttled the top USA team and in essence took our foot off the pedal the entire second half.
Much as I like your point, ODU is not the top CUSA team. Maybe you meant a top team? They did go 7-1 but WKU beat them by 35 and they didn't play La. Tech or MTSU.
No way did I mean that ODU is a top team in terms of being good. I meant that they are 7-1 in conference top of their division. That being said the conference really sucks. And to be 7-1 at the top of the division and having gotten stomped by the team they are tied with really makes it bad.
But the team that they are tied with and stomped them does get to go to the Championship game ===
I read that ODU is going to the Bahamas Bowl? And that's another reason why the conference stinks. In my opinion all conference championship games should include the best two teams regardless of division.
Well that's every conference, not just CUSA. And CUSA's does include its two best - La. Tech would stomp ODU.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:50 pm

Saint3333 wrote:I know being an accountant discredits any point you may have to some on here, but I keep making analytical observations that often come true anyway.

Speaking of, I really like how we're using Lamb to run more lately.
I agree but it does make me nervous seeing as we don't have a backup who has played more than about 37 seconds. He is doing a great job though.

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:53 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Strictly from a financial standpoint I'm sure that if we were in C USA we would be in better shape and the extra cash would most certainly help with many needs. We all envision eventually being in a more geographically friendly conference with better Bowl ties but right now all things being equal I believe the Belt is much better. Bottom line is that we throttled the top USA team and in essence took our foot off the pedal the entire second half.
Much as I like your point, ODU is not the top CUSA team. Maybe you meant a top team? They did go 7-1 but WKU beat them by 35 and they didn't play La. Tech or MTSU.
No way did I mean that ODU is a top team in terms of being good. I meant that they are 7-1 in conference top of their division. That being said the conference really sucks. And to be 7-1 at the top of the division and having gotten stomped by the team they are tied with really makes it bad.
But the team that they are tied with and stomped them does get to go to the Championship game ===
I read that ODU is going to the Bahamas Bowl? And that's another reason why the conference stinks. In my opinion all conference championship games should include the best two teams regardless of division.
I agree with that except when you have divisions and you don't play everyone how do you know who is the best two teams?

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:36 pm

bcoach wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
Much as I like your point, ODU is not the top CUSA team. Maybe you meant a top team? They did go 7-1 but WKU beat them by 35 and they didn't play La. Tech or MTSU.
No way did I mean that ODU is a top team in terms of being good. I meant that they are 7-1 in conference top of their division. That being said the conference really sucks. And to be 7-1 at the top of the division and having gotten stomped by the team they are tied with really makes it bad.
But the team that they are tied with and stomped them does get to go to the Championship game ===
Eye test many times (but I agree with you in that it won't happen). SEC and Big 10 are obvious examples. As mentioned above ODU not nearly one of the best two. It was looking that way in the ACC for a while with Clemson and Louisville

I read that ODU is going to the Bahamas Bowl? And that's another reason why the conference stinks. In my opinion all conference championship games should include the best two teams regardless of division.
I agree with that except when you have divisions and you don't play everyone how do you know who is the best two teams?

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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:33 pm

Saint3333 wrote:There is no "extra cash" any longer after CUSA's latest TV deal. In fact since they'll split their revenues (TV and FBS playoff money) 14 ways versus 10 in 2018 for the SBC each program will likely make less while incurring more travel costs.

They are still a better basketball conference, but SBC is certainly better in baseball and trending better in football the last three years overtaking them this year.
Even basketball is close to a toss up now. CUSA has been trending down while SB has improved greatly. Both are one bid leagues now so what little advantage they have doesn't make much of an impact in the big picture.
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Re: Conference USA?

Unread post by Appstate88 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:40 pm

Just merge the two conferences. I want play Marshall and others in our region again. I want to be able to drive to all away games in one day.
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